White Collar Boxing?
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it depends in what context you do it, a lot of people do it for charity and there's not a lot of skill involved however i had my first fight a few months ago and it was certainly a show for people who were taking the sport seriously.
I train at a boxing/kickboxing club so we are not affiliated to the Amateur boxing association in this country which is why i fight white collar. The major downside I've noticed so far is that peoples records can be fabricated a little where as in the proper ams everyone has a fightcard signed so you know how good/experienced they are. When it comes to white collar the persons record may show 1-0 for white collar and they've had umpteen kickboxing fights prior and so are vastly more experienced than the 'boxing' record suggests.
I train at a boxing/kickboxing club so we are not affiliated to the Amateur boxing association in this country which is why i fight white collar. The major downside I've noticed so far is that peoples records can be fabricated a little where as in the proper ams everyone has a fightcard signed so you know how good/experienced they are. When it comes to white collar the persons record may show 1-0 for white collar and they've had umpteen kickboxing fights prior and so are vastly more experienced than the 'boxing' record suggests.
Dan_1981 said:
Anyone ever done any of this white collar boxing stuff?
Be quite interested to give it ago
http://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.com/
Did you do it then?Be quite interested to give it ago
http://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.com/
I once got invited to a white collar boxing & dinner night and it was really bad.
It was basically a boxing ring in the middle of a hotel ballroom and a couple if hundred people sat round tables being served dinner while the 'fights' occurred.
Essentially it was an event organised by and hosted by a load of blokes who thought they were a cross between organised crime and hard gangsters in suits.
The 'fights' consisted of a load of out of shape businessmen swinging punches at each other and stumbling about until one of them quit or the rounds were finished.
Would I have a go? No. You look like a slightly out of shape accountant trying to be a boxer, and as mentioned above by another poster, who the hell seriously wants to be hit in the head repeatedly?
Would I spectate again? No. It just wasn't fast or violent enough to be interesting. If I want to watch a fight I want to watch people really trying to injure each other. I quite like watching cage fighting type stuff where people really do go at it hard and limbs get broken on occasion.
It's neither nothing nor something.
It was basically a boxing ring in the middle of a hotel ballroom and a couple if hundred people sat round tables being served dinner while the 'fights' occurred.
Essentially it was an event organised by and hosted by a load of blokes who thought they were a cross between organised crime and hard gangsters in suits.
The 'fights' consisted of a load of out of shape businessmen swinging punches at each other and stumbling about until one of them quit or the rounds were finished.
Would I have a go? No. You look like a slightly out of shape accountant trying to be a boxer, and as mentioned above by another poster, who the hell seriously wants to be hit in the head repeatedly?
Would I spectate again? No. It just wasn't fast or violent enough to be interesting. If I want to watch a fight I want to watch people really trying to injure each other. I quite like watching cage fighting type stuff where people really do go at it hard and limbs get broken on occasion.
It's neither nothing nor something.
Halb said:
Dan_1981 said:
Anyone ever done any of this white collar boxing stuff?
Be quite interested to give it ago
http://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.com/
Did you do it then?Be quite interested to give it ago
http://www.ultrawhitecollarboxing.com/
Put a bit of research into it, and had a look at the local events.
It may be described as white collar boxing but the impression I got was that it very much wasn't, it was basically anyone who fancied a fight but hadn't been boxing before or for a long time.
Friend of a friend on FB did take part in one event, he's anything but white collar......
I don't think it's for me.
Dan_1981 said:
Nope.
Put a bit of research into it, and had a look at the local events.
It may be described as white collar boxing but the impression I got was that it very much wasn't, it was basically anyone who fancied a fight but hadn't been boxing before or for a long time.
Friend of a friend on FB did take part in one event, he's anything but white collar......
I don't think it's for me.
That particular company has started popping up on my fb. I took a look at it (and a few others). The one above seems to be running a lot of shows! The 8 weeks free training was interesting too.Put a bit of research into it, and had a look at the local events.
It may be described as white collar boxing but the impression I got was that it very much wasn't, it was basically anyone who fancied a fight but hadn't been boxing before or for a long time.
Friend of a friend on FB did take part in one event, he's anything but white collar......
I don't think it's for me.
Looks like you do it with a 'friend' though, so you would know the person you are boxing. Made me think of mates who are my size.
if you get involved with a good promoter ( st. johns ambulance present at the show etc.) who you can trust to match you fairly (ie. not chuck you in with an eastern European ringer with no official bouts in the uk but potentially dozens of amateur contests on the continent!!) then you can find it a rewarding experience.
however, 8 weeks is just not enough training to get even the basic level of skill to perform the very basic task of protecting yourself properly under the pressure of fight conditions. even though you will most likely be wearing 14/16 oz gloves (I fought in 12oz in my unlicensed affair, but the pros fight in 8oz!!!) and head guards it still hurts a lot when someone is trying to take your head off. you'd be surprised how much you lose your composure under real fight conditions relative to sparring. I had sparred in gyms all over Liverpool for years and been in with some really good guys( lads who had boxed for England etc.) but I still feel I underperformed massively relative to the skills I can fight with under friendly gym spar conditions.
the one thing you don't want to do is to look a t
t in front of family and friends but more often than not these two month training camp larks are woefully inadequate. the best way to do it is to approach a local amateur boxing club and start training regularly there. they won't even have you sparring for the first six months but they will move you along properly so that when the time comes to step through the ropes on fight night you will have been much better prepared for the event. and it will be a lot safer for you as well!!
however, 8 weeks is just not enough training to get even the basic level of skill to perform the very basic task of protecting yourself properly under the pressure of fight conditions. even though you will most likely be wearing 14/16 oz gloves (I fought in 12oz in my unlicensed affair, but the pros fight in 8oz!!!) and head guards it still hurts a lot when someone is trying to take your head off. you'd be surprised how much you lose your composure under real fight conditions relative to sparring. I had sparred in gyms all over Liverpool for years and been in with some really good guys( lads who had boxed for England etc.) but I still feel I underperformed massively relative to the skills I can fight with under friendly gym spar conditions.
the one thing you don't want to do is to look a t
t in front of family and friends but more often than not these two month training camp larks are woefully inadequate. the best way to do it is to approach a local amateur boxing club and start training regularly there. they won't even have you sparring for the first six months but they will move you along properly so that when the time comes to step through the ropes on fight night you will have been much better prepared for the event. and it will be a lot safer for you as well!! 
tuscaneer said:
if you get involved with a good promoter ( st. johns ambulance present at the show etc.) who you can trust to match you fairly (ie. not chuck you in with an eastern European ringer with no official bouts in the uk but potentially dozens of amateur contests on the continent!!) then you can find it a rewarding experience.
however, 8 weeks is just not enough training to get even the basic level of skill to perform the very basic task of protecting yourself properly under the pressure of fight conditions. even though you will most likely be wearing 14/16 oz gloves (I fought in 12oz in my unlicensed affair, but the pros fight in 8oz!!!) and head guards it still hurts a lot when someone is trying to take your head off. you'd be surprised how much you lose your composure under real fight conditions relative to sparring. I had sparred in gyms all over Liverpool for years and been in with some really good guys( lads who had boxed for England etc.) but I still feel I underperformed massively relative to the skills I can fight with under friendly gym spar conditions.
the one thing you don't want to do is to look a tt in front of family and friends but more often than not these two month training camp larks are woefully inadequate. the best way to do it is to approach a local amateur boxing club and start training regularly there. they won't even have you sparring for the first six months but they will move you along properly so that when the time comes to step through the ropes on fight night you will have been much better prepared for the event. and it will be a lot safer for you as well!!
What do you think of Hook&Jab in Warrington, or the Warrington Wolf's Lair?however, 8 weeks is just not enough training to get even the basic level of skill to perform the very basic task of protecting yourself properly under the pressure of fight conditions. even though you will most likely be wearing 14/16 oz gloves (I fought in 12oz in my unlicensed affair, but the pros fight in 8oz!!!) and head guards it still hurts a lot when someone is trying to take your head off. you'd be surprised how much you lose your composure under real fight conditions relative to sparring. I had sparred in gyms all over Liverpool for years and been in with some really good guys( lads who had boxed for England etc.) but I still feel I underperformed massively relative to the skills I can fight with under friendly gym spar conditions.
the one thing you don't want to do is to look a t
t in front of family and friends but more often than not these two month training camp larks are woefully inadequate. the best way to do it is to approach a local amateur boxing club and start training regularly there. they won't even have you sparring for the first six months but they will move you along properly so that when the time comes to step through the ropes on fight night you will have been much better prepared for the event. and it will be a lot safer for you as well!! My brother did this as he wanted to get in shape and this was a great entry into the world of boxing.
He really enjoyed it (and has since carried on 'proper' boxing) but the organisation of the actually fight night was a sham. No promotion, not enough kit on the night, no organised weigh in and my brother's match was against someone that was 3 stone heavier and had clearly been boxing for years.
A lot of these problems were down to the local organiser being usless though. And my brother did still really enjoy it despite the fight night being an anti-climax.
He really enjoyed it (and has since carried on 'proper' boxing) but the organisation of the actually fight night was a sham. No promotion, not enough kit on the night, no organised weigh in and my brother's match was against someone that was 3 stone heavier and had clearly been boxing for years.
A lot of these problems were down to the local organiser being usless though. And my brother did still really enjoy it despite the fight night being an anti-climax.
Dan_1981 said:
I don't think it's for me.
As mentioned before going to a local boxing club can be a good way of doing a bit of "boxing" without getting punched in the head too much. After a recent head injury (unrelated to my boxing) I've stopped sparring for a bit, which means you get plenty of time to do bag / speed / rope / fitness work.Most clubs treat everyone the same: you get worked hard. However they treat everyone with respect as it takes a small amount of courage to walk into a club as a novice at any age over 15. The rewards however are fantastic as the fitness required to even last 3-4 rounds of fast paced sparring is shockingly high. Clubs will also help advise you on whether your ready or not for a fight, white collar or not. This is usually based on how well you can defend yourself and how fit you are.
I would definitely recommend giving it a try, and most local clubs even have gloves (albeit stinky ones) for you to borrow, so the investment is minimal. If you don't like it then you can walk away knowing at least you tried and you didn't shell out 10x the money for a "white collar specific class" which won't work you anywhere near as hard.
KarlMac said:
He really enjoyed it (and has since carried on 'proper' boxing) but the organisation of the actually fight night was a sham. No promotion, not enough kit on the night, no organised weigh in and my brother's match was against someone that was 3 stone heavier and had clearly been boxing for years.
Three stone heavier! Did he get ttted? Or was it three stone of flab? Halb said:
KarlMac said:
He really enjoyed it (and has since carried on 'proper' boxing) but the organisation of the actually fight night was a sham. No promotion, not enough kit on the night, no organised weigh in and my brother's match was against someone that was 3 stone heavier and had clearly been boxing for years.
Three stone heavier! Did he get ttted? Or was it three stone of flab? 
Like I said, he still enjoyed the training and raised loads of cash for charity. Was a big boost to his self esteem too.
Halb said:
What do you think of Hook&Jab in Warrington, or the Warrington Wolf's Lair?
Used to love hook and jab when it was at the old location. We used to have literally a dozen lads in on a Saturday morning for round robin spars. fking class it was because they'd keep changing it round so you rarely sparred the same guy two rounds on the bounce.I've only seen this crap on TV but from what I gather despite any apparent fitness gains, most punters just flail their arms about like chimps and are left fked gasping for breath after 30 seconds.
Invariably the "contests" will involve much frustrated adjusting of headguards; at least three incidents of turning one's back and running away; and if you are lucky, one participant might manage to bowl the other over with one of those out of control swingy-pushy type headshots.
ked gasping for breath after 30 seconds.Invariably the "contests" will involve much frustrated adjusting of headguards; at least three incidents of turning one's back and running away; and if you are lucky, one participant might manage to bowl the other over with one of those out of control swingy-pushy type headshots.
JuniorD said:
Invariably the "contests" will involve much frustrated adjusting of headguards
At the last show that I went to one of the fighters got through three or four head guards, not sure he wanted to be there!I've seen a few white collar boxing fights at various MT & K1 shows, most have been pretty entertaining, but did go to an event a few years ago at Canary Wharf which bored me to tears.
I've started boxing recently, as I've got broken bones in both feet so aren't good for much else, & it's been great fun. My gym get involved in one of these train for 8 weeks then fight things and I'm seriously considering signing up - it's something a wee bit different to what I've experienced before and I know it'll be organised properly. My only misgivings are that you get matched up with some one out of the same training camp, so it might end up as little more than glorified sparring, and I'm a bit sceptical as to how much of the money raised actually finds it's way to charity - don't fancy trying to flog a load of tickets (20 I think) to enrich some other deceitful little toad.
tuscaneer said:
Halb said:
My mate just did this.
The change in his physique was amazing to see in the run up period.
......sooooooo.......you know it's your turn to step up to the plate now don't you pal!!!The change in his physique was amazing to see in the run up period.
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I know!!
I ripped my pec in December and currently going through rehab. I'll revisit my physical capabilities at the end of summer to see where I am!
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