General cricket thread

General cricket thread

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Gargamel

14,985 posts

261 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Ian Bell, Legend.

Not aware of any trust issues

KP best batsman he has played with.

Suck on that Cook!

Murph7355

37,705 posts

256 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Ian Bell is also quoted as saying:

"...I don't know where you fit him in right now...".

And

"...If he keeps scoring runs maybe there's a position in time..."

No one is doubting KP's ability on his day. But there's no obvious place for him to slot into the team and MAYBE there'll be options later IF he can keep racking runs up (I'd suggest in top flight cricket should the obvious need pointing out! But that's going to be tricky bearing in mind he isn't in top flight cricket and is injured). You'll also note that Strauss himself hasn't ruled that out, but AFTER the Ashes.

Bearing in mind KP's injury maybe Strauss was spot on. An injury which frankly makes the story a non-story if it ever was one.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Interesting article.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/32745399

I don't know what the answer is. I am a full member of Warwickshire CCC and I go to every match, T20 included and the stadium is rarely more than half full.
It'll be busier next week when the Pears come to play in the T20 but then back to normal.

I don't know what the answer is on how to attract more fans to English cricket, it is not like there aren't any.
I am going to watch the Ashes this year and all the days have sold out. T20 finals day last year, sold out.
So where are all the fans going?
I like the idea of an Aussie style BBLeague but I don't know how I'd feel about the new teams.

Murph7355

37,705 posts

256 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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GravelMachineGun said:
Interesting article.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/32745399

I don't know what the answer is. I am a full member of Warwickshire CCC and I go to every match, T20 included and the stadium is rarely more than half full.
It'll be busier next week when the Pears come to play in the T20 but then back to normal.

I don't know what the answer is on how to attract more fans to English cricket, it is not like there aren't any.
I am going to watch the Ashes this year and all the days have sold out. T20 finals day last year, sold out.
So where are all the fans going?
I like the idea of an Aussie style BBLeague but I don't know how I'd feel about the new teams.
Comparisons with the IPL are pointless. India's population is 20x bigger than ours and cricket is their national sport (pretty much). Like it or not, football is ours. And in the "second tier" we have a number of sports vying for attention.

Australia is a bit different, but again cricket is higher up the overall pecking order than it is here. And they also have the weather on their side.

I'm not sure the global infatuation with making sports bigger and bigger in terms of box office is something healthy to get wrapped up in. Fans will naturally put a bit more effort into going to the bigger games. Do the lower level games need to be packed to the rafters? They don't even do this in football, and when you look at attendances to other minority sports they're not packed out in this country either.

All greater and greater growth ends up doing is increasing the money around the sport, which never ends well.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Murph7355 said:
Comparisons with the IPL are pointless. India's population is 20x bigger than ours and cricket is their national sport (pretty much). Like it or not, football is ours. And in the "second tier" we have a number of sports vying for attention.

Australia is a bit different, but again cricket is higher up the overall pecking order than it is here. And they also have the weather on their side.

I'm not sure the global infatuation with making sports bigger and bigger in terms of box office is something healthy to get wrapped up in. Fans will naturally put a bit more effort into going to the bigger games. Do the lower level games need to be packed to the rafters? They don't even do this in football, and when you look at attendances to other minority sports they're not packed out in this country either.

All greater and greater growth ends up doing is increasing the money around the sport, which never ends well.
You say fans don't attend smaller football games but they do in the premier league and county level is supposed to be the best national level we offer.

War vs Wor is the same as Ars-Tot in terms of league level yet in the one you'll struggle to fill up half the stadium.

Challo

10,121 posts

155 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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GravelMachineGun said:
Murph7355 said:
Comparisons with the IPL are pointless. India's population is 20x bigger than ours and cricket is their national sport (pretty much). Like it or not, football is ours. And in the "second tier" we have a number of sports vying for attention.

Australia is a bit different, but again cricket is higher up the overall pecking order than it is here. And they also have the weather on their side.

I'm not sure the global infatuation with making sports bigger and bigger in terms of box office is something healthy to get wrapped up in. Fans will naturally put a bit more effort into going to the bigger games. Do the lower level games need to be packed to the rafters? They don't even do this in football, and when you look at attendances to other minority sports they're not packed out in this country either.

All greater and greater growth ends up doing is increasing the money around the sport, which never ends well.
You say fans don't attend smaller football games but they do in the premier league and county level is supposed to be the best national level we offer.

War vs Wor is the same as Ars-Tot in terms of league level yet in the one you'll struggle to fill up half the stadium.
Fans do attend football games but don't forgot games are in the evenings and also on weekends. Outside of the Premiership teams very rarely fill up so I think the premiership is a different prospect.

How many people have a chance to watch County Cricket 4 Day games on a Wednesday. The majority of people are at work. T20 games in the evenings or at weekends are normally well supported. If you want to get people to watch cricket I think T20 will be the main focus.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Challo said:
GravelMachineGun said:
Murph7355 said:
Comparisons with the IPL are pointless. India's population is 20x bigger than ours and cricket is their national sport (pretty much). Like it or not, football is ours. And in the "second tier" we have a number of sports vying for attention.

Australia is a bit different, but again cricket is higher up the overall pecking order than it is here. And they also have the weather on their side.

I'm not sure the global infatuation with making sports bigger and bigger in terms of box office is something healthy to get wrapped up in. Fans will naturally put a bit more effort into going to the bigger games. Do the lower level games need to be packed to the rafters? They don't even do this in football, and when you look at attendances to other minority sports they're not packed out in this country either.

All greater and greater growth ends up doing is increasing the money around the sport, which never ends well.
You say fans don't attend smaller football games but they do in the premier league and county level is supposed to be the best national level we offer.

War vs Wor is the same as Ars-Tot in terms of league level yet in the one you'll struggle to fill up half the stadium.
Fans do attend football games but don't forgot games are in the evenings and also on weekends. Outside of the Premiership teams very rarely fill up so I think the premiership is a different prospect.

How many people have a chance to watch County Cricket 4 Day games on a Wednesday. The majority of people are at work. T20 games in the evenings or at weekends are normally well supported. If you want to get people to watch cricket I think T20 will be the main focus.
Thought we were talking about T20.
That is why I linked the article on T20.

Challo

10,121 posts

155 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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GravelMachineGun said:
Challo said:
GravelMachineGun said:
Murph7355 said:
Comparisons with the IPL are pointless. India's population is 20x bigger than ours and cricket is their national sport (pretty much). Like it or not, football is ours. And in the "second tier" we have a number of sports vying for attention.

Australia is a bit different, but again cricket is higher up the overall pecking order than it is here. And they also have the weather on their side.

I'm not sure the global infatuation with making sports bigger and bigger in terms of box office is something healthy to get wrapped up in. Fans will naturally put a bit more effort into going to the bigger games. Do the lower level games need to be packed to the rafters? They don't even do this in football, and when you look at attendances to other minority sports they're not packed out in this country either.

All greater and greater growth ends up doing is increasing the money around the sport, which never ends well.
You say fans don't attend smaller football games but they do in the premier league and county level is supposed to be the best national level we offer.

War vs Wor is the same as Ars-Tot in terms of league level yet in the one you'll struggle to fill up half the stadium.
Fans do attend football games but don't forgot games are in the evenings and also on weekends. Outside of the Premiership teams very rarely fill up so I think the premiership is a different prospect.

How many people have a chance to watch County Cricket 4 Day games on a Wednesday. The majority of people are at work. T20 games in the evenings or at weekends are normally well supported. If you want to get people to watch cricket I think T20 will be the main focus.
Thought we were talking about T20.
That is why I linked the article on T20.
Apologies been a long week boxedin

Murph7355

37,705 posts

256 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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GravelMachineGun said:
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War vs Wor is the same as Ars-Tot in terms of league level yet in the one you'll struggle to fill up half the stadium.
I think that's where cricket's prominence in terms of other sports kick in.

Football's the bigger game here and likely always will be. As a second tier sport, comparing attendances to lower tiers in football is therefore likely to be more appropriate. Potentially even to the likes of League 1 and 2.


Leithen

10,877 posts

267 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Hales making hay...

Leithen

10,877 posts

267 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Six consecutive sixes....

SydneyBridge

8,583 posts

158 months

Friday 15th May 2015
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Leithen said:
Hales making hay...
just switched on for the rapid conclusion!!
looked a huge crowd, shame a few of these games can't be on terrestrial tv

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Tut tut. I wonder what sort of punishment one of Strauss's boys will get after this.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3...

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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London424 said:
Tut tut. I wonder what sort of punishment one of Strauss's boys will get after this.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3...
I wonder what Lehmann (or Gillespie) would do to him?

Leithen

10,877 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Perfect opportunity to bench him for at least one test.

Give another bowler who's not going to take representing his country for granted a chance to gain a cap.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Now we'll see what kind of man Strauss is, let see how he deals with Broad...

suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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AW111 said:
London424 said:
Tut tut. I wonder what sort of punishment one of Strauss's boys will get after this.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3...
I wonder what Lehmann (or Gillespie) would do to him?
Probably hand him his arse on a plate, the guy has talent but has always been a twunt of the highest order

dav123a

Original Poster:

1,220 posts

159 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Agreed Broad is a good bowler , and until recently decent with the bat but is a total knob.

spikeyhead

17,309 posts

197 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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Broad is now the worst batsman in the team, and his bowling is nothing like as good as it was. Worth giving someone else a go for the next test.

RichB

51,561 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th May 2015
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spikeyhead said:
Broad is now the worst batsman in the team, and his bowling is nothing like as good as it was. Worth giving someone else a go for the next test.
Maybe but it won't happen.