General cricket thread

General cricket thread

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FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Aaarrrrggghhhhh, off for bad light, about to chuck it down, 349/9, 4 overs left. About to have a hernia.

5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Amazing situation at Lord's. Lose a wicket and Yorkshire's title hopes are as good as over, score 1 run and I'd make them favourites.

Long Drax

744 posts

170 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Middlesex 2-2. shoot C'mon Yorkshire!

FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Thursday 22nd September 2016
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Phew. Had to clear off to a pre booked physiotherapist and gym session. Agony in two ways, circuit training and not knowing if got that last batting point.

Come back to this, come on lads.

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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wow - getting tense.

like chess not cricket.

do middlesex get 200 in front and give us the final session to knock 'em off? need enough time to bowl us out as well.....

it can't get to 20-20 as the fielding and bowling restrictions don't apply so I would say marginal advantage middlesex but its only marginal....

even with yorks going for it, a dead pitch might be a small advantage to those batting last....

weather permitting too.....

FiF

44,078 posts

251 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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The bit I struggled with yesterday, was the argument about whether Middlesex were letting us get the runs in order to keep us in the chase as that was to their advantage. They were in reality trying their very best to roll us over for as few as possible.

Maybe looking at it too simplistically

Draw Somerset win.
Middlesex win, they are champions.
Yorkshire win, we are champions.

Then maybe I am just being a bit thick and don't get the possible strategies.

Regardless of how it ends we need to say a big thank you to Jason Gillespie.

GloverMart

11,816 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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FiF said:
The bit I struggled with yesterday, was the argument about whether Middlesex were letting us get the runs in order to keep us in the chase as that was to their advantage. They were in reality trying their very best to roll us over for as few as possible.

Draw Somerset win.
Middlesex win, they are champions.
Yorkshire win, we are champions.
That is spot on, comes down to the final afternoon (and probably final session) of the final game of the season. Amazing that some people still think the system is broken. At the other end, there are three teams battling to avoid the drop which one will suffer... not bad that six teams out of nine are still playing for aomething this late on.

Come on Zummerset.

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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this looks like its going to be a 20 over game doesn't it?

surely middlesex should be gunning for runs by now....are they just trying to make sure yorkshire don't win it either???

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Question from a casual fan - if this game is a draw who will come second in the championship and does (if there is any) the prize money differ massively between second and third?

GloverMart

11,816 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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skeggysteve said:
Question from a casual fan - if this game is a draw who will come second in the championship and does (if there is any) the prize money differ massively between second and third?
Middlesex will finish second to Somerset if its a draw.

Re the financial side, I read somewhere it's about £15k a man but I have no sources for that.

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Thanks for that GM - until a few minutes ago I did wonder if Middlesex were playing for a draw!

Pieman68

4,264 posts

234 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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They had Gillespie in the commentary box yesterday afternoon and were talking prize money. He simply said he didn't care and that they wanted to win it

Was something like £340k for winners, £165k for second and £88k for 3rd if I recall correctly

5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Yorkshire bowling for a declaration - Lees and Lyth into the 'attack'.

Really tough declaration for Middlesex to judge. Need to give Yorkshire a decent sniff of a chance. 280-odd from 32 overs?

5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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240 from 40 overs. Game on!

Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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6 an over is doable - wonder if they will chuck willey / bressie in early get a good start.....

marginal advantage yorkshire????

RichB

51,571 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Although I watch & follow test cricket I will admit I don't know much about county cricket. So, I assume this match is a limited number of overs which is why Yorkshire have only 40 overs left. Is that correct?

p.s. also why are some people on the BBC saying it's contrived?


5pen

1,891 posts

206 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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It's actually a timed game, but a minimum number of overs must be bowled in a day's play. If Middlesex get a hurry on they could theoretically bowl more than the minimum of 40 if still within the scheduled close of play.

It has been somewhat contrived because a draw suits neither team and they both know it.

RichB

51,571 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Right, thanks, so timed like a test match and when there's a minimum number of overs left on a final day provided the light is good.

ralphrj

3,525 posts

191 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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Why did the final Middlesex batsman so obviously give his wicket away? If they wanted to get on with bowling at Yorkshire couldn't they have simply declared?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Friday 23rd September 2016
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This whole thing leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Sure you would expect the two captains to have come to some sort of arrangement between themselves but to do it in such a squalid and brazen manner just isn't cricket imo.

As for the actual target, get the Yorkshire captain to do our post brexit trade negotiations - I can't believe he got the Middx captain to agree to setting such a generous target.

I hope it rains and this ends in a draw.

Edited by BlackLabel on Friday 23 September 15:18