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Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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hornetrider said:
No. Although I can see it resulting in a slight change to helmet design. Can they be extended down a bit more at the rear perhaps? Might be a bit awkward due to your stance when you're taking your guard though.
The guys on SS cricket yesterday were discussing it and had a range of helmets - PH was wearing an older version of a current helmet which does go daon teh neck further - looked about quarter inch different to me?

no way of telling if it would have amde a difference of course.

SydneyBridge

8,611 posts

158 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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It was a one in a million freak accident. Hopefully it could and would never happen again.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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This was not a freak accident, being hit by a huge hailstone would be a freak accident as it has a random non human source. This was a person being delivered a ball deliberately time and again so it falls into being non freak though statistically very low chance.

The helmet manufacturers now have to react by making that small chance down to approaching zero.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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There have only ever been 100 reported cases of the type of unjury Phillip Hughes sustained.

In my mind that makes it a very rare freak accident.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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garyhun said:
There have only ever been 100 reported cases of the type of unjury Phillip Hughes sustained.

In my mind that makes it a very rare freak accident.
And, if I heard correctly, only 1 of those was cricket related.


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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ManFromDelmonte said:
And, if I heard correctly, only 1 of those was cricket related.
Correct.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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My conclusion is that the rules around bouncers do not need changing as they are as tight as possible without negatively affecting the game.

Helmet manufacturers should do all they can to improve the design of the lids, some kind of semi-flexible collar similar to you see with Securicor type helmets, could be an option to help protect the neck area, albeit a pretty ugly one.

Also helmet manufacturers should do all they can to ensure that their players use their latest helmet design.

As said above though, this was a freak accident, in a sport where an element of danger is always going to be present.

RIP Hughsey

unrepentant

21,260 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Awful, awful news.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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This was posted on another forum. Sums it up well

"The language we use to describe every perceived failing, misfortune, slight and injustice associated with the games we follow and play seem so utterly and intemperately excessive now. As if they have lost their real impact in the face of real tragedy; something genuinely appalling; horrific, heartbreaking."

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Fishtigua said:
Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Edit:

Short clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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frown

Thats all. Not a great day for wanting to be enthusiastic about the sport.

Dapster

6,945 posts

180 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Fishtigua said:
Fishtigua said:
Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Edit:

Short clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU
Specifically this bit here... start at around 30 secs. That was so very nearly a VERY serious injury to Brain Close. Holding was probably faster than anything we're seeing today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsfEdJ_G5w

suthol

2,156 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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john2443 said:
I wonder if this will trigger a rule change to ban bouncers?

I know that before helmets people did get hit, but do bowlers now expect the helmet to completely protect the batsman so it doesn't matter if they do hit the head; with no helmets did bowlers restrain themselves from bowling head height a bit. (Obviously there will be times that the batsman ducks but not far enough, or a rogue ball unintentionally bounces but should the rules minimise this as much as possible?)
In the days before helmets batsmen were not hit all that often because they got right inside the line and hooked the ball fine, the modern way seems to be to play in line and hit the ball somewhere between mid wicket and just backward of square.

JMTBW

On the news here in Oz this morning it would appear the hit severed an artery in his neck.

Hammer67

5,735 posts

184 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Having personally witnessed 2 deaths on sports fields this has brought back some painful memories.

I`ve played cricket at various levels for 40 years and have seen many instances of balls making contact with heads, both batsmen and fielders. Never thought for a minute someone would die as a result.

Truly awful. RIP young Aussie.

johnfm

13,668 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Sad news. A terrible day for his family. 25 is no age.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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I know that his condition was pretty bad, but honestly I did not expect him to die at all. Most I was expecting was possibly retirement, or a very long break away from cricket. Really can't believe he died.

uk66fastback

16,547 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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A terrible, terrible thing to happen to anyone. When I played 15-20 years ago I never once thought of wearing a helmet when batting. Daft really. I think that was bravsdo more than anything. Couple of close escapes down the years but nothing major. I once saw Bedfordshire's keeper go out to batt against Waqir Younis without a lid... Again, bravado. Or lunacy.

bigunit00

890 posts

147 months

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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uk66fastback said:
I once saw Bedfordshire's keeper go out to batt against Waqir Younis without a lid... Again, bravado. Or lunacy.
I'd be more concerned about the toe crusher!!