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hornetrider said:
No. Although I can see it resulting in a slight change to helmet design. Can they be extended down a bit more at the rear perhaps? Might be a bit awkward due to your stance when you're taking your guard though.
The guys on SS cricket yesterday were discussing it and had a range of helmets - PH was wearing an older version of a current helmet which does go daon teh neck further - looked about quarter inch different to me?no way of telling if it would have amde a difference of course.
This was not a freak accident, being hit by a huge hailstone would be a freak accident as it has a random non human source. This was a person being delivered a ball deliberately time and again so it falls into being non freak though statistically very low chance.
The helmet manufacturers now have to react by making that small chance down to approaching zero.
The helmet manufacturers now have to react by making that small chance down to approaching zero.
My conclusion is that the rules around bouncers do not need changing as they are as tight as possible without negatively affecting the game.
Helmet manufacturers should do all they can to improve the design of the lids, some kind of semi-flexible collar similar to you see with Securicor type helmets, could be an option to help protect the neck area, albeit a pretty ugly one.
Also helmet manufacturers should do all they can to ensure that their players use their latest helmet design.
As said above though, this was a freak accident, in a sport where an element of danger is always going to be present.
RIP Hughsey
Helmet manufacturers should do all they can to improve the design of the lids, some kind of semi-flexible collar similar to you see with Securicor type helmets, could be an option to help protect the neck area, albeit a pretty ugly one.
Also helmet manufacturers should do all they can to ensure that their players use their latest helmet design.
As said above though, this was a freak accident, in a sport where an element of danger is always going to be present.
RIP Hughsey
Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
This was posted on another forum. Sums it up well
"The language we use to describe every perceived failing, misfortune, slight and injustice associated with the games we follow and play seem so utterly and intemperately excessive now. As if they have lost their real impact in the face of real tragedy; something genuinely appalling; horrific, heartbreaking."
"The language we use to describe every perceived failing, misfortune, slight and injustice associated with the games we follow and play seem so utterly and intemperately excessive now. As if they have lost their real impact in the face of real tragedy; something genuinely appalling; horrific, heartbreaking."
Fishtigua said:
Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Edit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Short clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU
Fishtigua said:
Fishtigua said:
Fire in Babylon is a documentary that should be watched by all with an interest in cricket. It shows just how dangerous the game was before helmets and padding came in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Edit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ScM3BlYMA
Short clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cozSq8XC-LU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsfEdJ_G5w
john2443 said:
I wonder if this will trigger a rule change to ban bouncers?
I know that before helmets people did get hit, but do bowlers now expect the helmet to completely protect the batsman so it doesn't matter if they do hit the head; with no helmets did bowlers restrain themselves from bowling head height a bit. (Obviously there will be times that the batsman ducks but not far enough, or a rogue ball unintentionally bounces but should the rules minimise this as much as possible?)
In the days before helmets batsmen were not hit all that often because they got right inside the line and hooked the ball fine, the modern way seems to be to play in line and hit the ball somewhere between mid wicket and just backward of square.I know that before helmets people did get hit, but do bowlers now expect the helmet to completely protect the batsman so it doesn't matter if they do hit the head; with no helmets did bowlers restrain themselves from bowling head height a bit. (Obviously there will be times that the batsman ducks but not far enough, or a rogue ball unintentionally bounces but should the rules minimise this as much as possible?)
JMTBW
On the news here in Oz this morning it would appear the hit severed an artery in his neck.
Having personally witnessed 2 deaths on sports fields this has brought back some painful memories.
I`ve played cricket at various levels for 40 years and have seen many instances of balls making contact with heads, both batsmen and fielders. Never thought for a minute someone would die as a result.
Truly awful. RIP young Aussie.
I`ve played cricket at various levels for 40 years and have seen many instances of balls making contact with heads, both batsmen and fielders. Never thought for a minute someone would die as a result.
Truly awful. RIP young Aussie.
A terrible, terrible thing to happen to anyone. When I played 15-20 years ago I never once thought of wearing a helmet when batting. Daft really. I think that was bravsdo more than anything. Couple of close escapes down the years but nothing major. I once saw Bedfordshire's keeper go out to batt against Waqir Younis without a lid... Again, bravado. Or lunacy.
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