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Cheib said:
hornetrider said:
Joe Root on the other hand is becoming a very good cricketer.
I'd say he's already a very good cricketer! Looked born for it from his first match in a manner that very,very few are. He should be made captain IMHO and move on from Cook.
Amirhussain said:
Cheib said:
hornetrider said:
Joe Root on the other hand is becoming a very good cricketer.
I'd say he's already a very good cricketer! Looked born for it from his first match in a manner that very,very few are. He should be made captain IMHO and move on from Cook.
Don't spoil Joe Root by making him into captain as well.
He is already a superb grafting batsman - let's leave it at that.
Just look what happened a generation ago when some buffoon tried to turn Geoffrey Boycott into a captain as well as retaining him as a world-rated opening batsman ....
He is already a superb grafting batsman - let's leave it at that.
Just look what happened a generation ago when some buffoon tried to turn Geoffrey Boycott into a captain as well as retaining him as a world-rated opening batsman ....
Cook should be dropped!
I'm sorry but he is not performing, he should go back to county cricket and not be considered until he scores lots of runs.
He hasn't scored a century for England for something like 64 innings!
Just to add, I found this quite an interesting read.
http://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/al...
I'm sorry but he is not performing, he should go back to county cricket and not be considered until he scores lots of runs.
He hasn't scored a century for England for something like 64 innings!
Just to add, I found this quite an interesting read.
http://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/al...
Edited by London424 on Thursday 16th April 11:47
London424 said:
Cook should be dropped!
I'm sorry but he is not performing, he should go back to county cricket and not be considered until he scores lots of runs.
He hasn't scored a century for England for something like 64 innings!
Last century was in May 2013 against New Zealand, 61 innings ago....I'm sorry but he is not performing, he should go back to county cricket and not be considered until he scores lots of runs.
He hasn't scored a century for England for something like 64 innings!
It's worth remembering that Cook's form when he was making centuries was exceptionally strong - records were going to be broken over the coming years. It bought him a period of grace to regain lost form, but sadly it hasn't happened, he seems stuck.
The easy option would be to make Bell Captain, with Root as understudy. The top order should then be picked on form, with the hope that two or three individuals might stake a claim.
I'm not sure however, whether Bell would do well as boss - does he have the instincts? Would his run scoring then dry up?
My preferred option (and yes I have been banging this drum for several years now) is to bring in either James Foster or Chris Read as Captain/Keeper. They know the captaincy book. They would know that it's a temporary job allowing Root to get up to speed, and it would allow batsmen and bowlers to concentrate on individual performance, nothing else.
England are stagnant at the moment and need a shakeup.
The easy option would be to make Bell Captain, with Root as understudy. The top order should then be picked on form, with the hope that two or three individuals might stake a claim.
I'm not sure however, whether Bell would do well as boss - does he have the instincts? Would his run scoring then dry up?
My preferred option (and yes I have been banging this drum for several years now) is to bring in either James Foster or Chris Read as Captain/Keeper. They know the captaincy book. They would know that it's a temporary job allowing Root to get up to speed, and it would allow batsmen and bowlers to concentrate on individual performance, nothing else.
England are stagnant at the moment and need a shakeup.
Don't give the captaincy to Root!
He has been our best batsmen for the last couple of years and those who know him personally, eg Swann, say he is a cheeky young lad who isn't yet ready to lead. I am worried that giving him the captaincy prematurely would badly affect his game.
If Cook's bad form continues to the point at which the selectors are forced to drop him, they should give the captaincy to a senior player. Broad is probably the best candidate, but there are too many question marks about his fitness, so that leaves Jimmy or Bell.
He has been our best batsmen for the last couple of years and those who know him personally, eg Swann, say he is a cheeky young lad who isn't yet ready to lead. I am worried that giving him the captaincy prematurely would badly affect his game.
If Cook's bad form continues to the point at which the selectors are forced to drop him, they should give the captaincy to a senior player. Broad is probably the best candidate, but there are too many question marks about his fitness, so that leaves Jimmy or Bell.
Bradgate said:
Don't give the captaincy to Root!
He has been our best batsmen for the last couple of years and those who know him personally, eg Swann, say he is a cheeky young lad who isn't yet ready to lead. I am worried that giving him the captaincy prematurely would badly affect his game.
If Cook's bad form continues to the point at which the selectors are forced to drop him, they should give the captaincy to a senior player. Broad is probably the best candidate, but there are too many question marks about his fitness, so that leaves Jimmy or Bell.
If Broad was captain we would have no review left after his first 3 balls that didn't got for 6.He has been our best batsmen for the last couple of years and those who know him personally, eg Swann, say he is a cheeky young lad who isn't yet ready to lead. I am worried that giving him the captaincy prematurely would badly affect his game.
If Cook's bad form continues to the point at which the selectors are forced to drop him, they should give the captaincy to a senior player. Broad is probably the best candidate, but there are too many question marks about his fitness, so that leaves Jimmy or Bell.
Can't see beyond Root as anything other than a temporary stop gap.
No point changing anything unless the management goes as well though. If we are keeping Moores et al we may as well wait until Dicked later in the year.
Amirhussain said:
hornetrider said:
Amirhussain said:
Last century was in May 2013 against New Zealand, 61 innings ago....
61 First class innings? Or England innings?
They are constantly touring and out of nick you have no chance of finding it.
Ideally i would ask Cook to stand down, send him back to Essex. Bell could stand in, and make Root VC with a view to make perm skipper in 12months time.
The problem with sending Cook back to his county is that he is contracted to Essex who are in the second division. I'm not sure he is going to learn anything going up against division 2 bowlers. He played 3 county championship games for Essex last year scoring 2 centuries and averaging 77.20 but struggled in the test matches.
Christ you lot are reactionary. Eng haven't played real cricket for 9 months. Chef looks rusty but largely the team is easing back in and probably with a test win. I don't personally think Trott should be opening, certainly not with a technical flaw as current. Chef has earned the rest of this series. Ballance and Root are great finds for England so arguably Trott has had his time. Ballance, Bell, Root is a v strong 3-5. Stokes, Joss the Boss, Jordan is a strong middle order.
DJRC said:
Christ you lot are reactionary. Eng haven't played real cricket for 9 months. Chef looks rusty but largely the team is easing back in and probably with a test win. I don't personally think Trott should be opening, certainly not with a technical flaw as current. Chef has earned the rest of this series. Ballance and Root are great finds for England so arguably Trott has had his time. Ballance, Bell, Root is a v strong 3-5. Stokes, Joss the Boss, Jordan is a strong middle order.
Whats your thoughts if England win the series 3-0 and Cook still has a bad series with the bat? Stick or twist? With NZ and Aus having better bowlers will it just get worse?
Challo said:
DJRC said:
Christ you lot are reactionary. Eng haven't played real cricket for 9 months. Chef looks rusty but largely the team is easing back in and probably with a test win. I don't personally think Trott should be opening, certainly not with a technical flaw as current. Chef has earned the rest of this series. Ballance and Root are great finds for England so arguably Trott has had his time. Ballance, Bell, Root is a v strong 3-5. Stokes, Joss the Boss, Jordan is a strong middle order.
Whats your thoughts if England win the series 3-0 and Cook still has a bad series with the bat? Stick or twist? With NZ and Aus having better bowlers will it just get worse?
I've no idea why Trott is opening, save the desire to have some experience in the order. I'm also worried about Broad's failure to find any confidence with the bat after last years ball head interface event.
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