Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

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snowy

541 posts

281 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
Absent a specific local rule, I'd think temporary greens are to be treated like any other normal part of the course. Play the ball as it lies.

(up to you if you want to risk taking a huge divot!)
it costs us the match, as I took an 8 iron to bump and run the ball, if I had lifted and dropped the ball I would have taken a SW, and i'm pretty sure I would have got it up and down, but the 8 iron, I rolled it 15ft past the hole, if I had used a SW i'm sure id have got it close enough to have a better change of a par.

C'est la vie



cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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mattdaniels said:
I hate this stupid game.
That is all.
banghead
Conversely:
Net 64 and 43 points
I love this stupid game.
That is all.
biggrin

Rosscow

Original Poster:

8,767 posts

163 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
Absent a specific local rule, I'd think temporary greens are to be treated like any other normal part of the course. Play the ball as it lies.

(up to you if you want to risk taking a huge divot!)
I agree, unless it's marked GUR or there is a local rule then give it a whack.

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Absent a specific local rule, I'd think temporary greens are to be treated like any other normal part of the course. Play the ball as it lies.

(up to you if you want to risk taking a huge divot!)
I agree, unless it's marked GUR or there is a local rule then give it a whack.
Out of respect for those who endlessly toil to produce beautifully manicured playing areas and given that we're amateur weekend hackers playing for bragging rights rather than a 250SWB Ferrari I'd have come to mutually agreeable decision with my fellow players and dropped the ball off of the green.


StescoG66

2,118 posts

143 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Well I succumbed to the custom fit option today and must admit my eyes were well and truly opened. All these years I played with S300 shafts - I was deluded!! Regular needed as swing speed only 79mph. Purchased a set of Mizuno JPX850 forged with XP110R shafts. The strike of these things is sublime!!! Can't wait to pick them up and get out to hit them.
Now, anyone fancy an absolutely immaculate set of Mizuno MP52 with S300 shafts?

Edited by StescoG66 on Sunday 26th October 21:57

rat840771

2,023 posts

165 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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cheddar said:
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Absent a specific local rule, I'd think temporary greens are to be treated like any other normal part of the course. Play the ball as it lies.

(up to you if you want to risk taking a huge divot!)
I agree, unless it's marked GUR or there is a local rule then give it a whack.
Out of respect for those who endlessly toil to produce beautifully manicured playing areas and given that we're amateur weekend hackers playing for bragging rights rather than a 250SWB Ferrari I'd have come to mutually agreeable decision with my fellow players and dropped the ball off of the green.
Have to agree, as long as you are gaining no advantage !
We have a local to take relief off the green if not in play.

StescoG66

2,118 posts

143 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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I was always led to believe that winter greens (if marked out) were subject to the same rules as GUR.

HaplessBoyLard

1,548 posts

188 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Woke up this morning on the first day of a week off and the sun was shining, so I headed out alone for a round at my regular local course.

Felt happy and relaxed the whole way round, and it showed in the scoring. I managed a PB 84. (Previous 86) Tee shots slightly wayward at times, but not finding any real trouble, and irons were going really well. I think I hit 3 real dodgy shots all day.

3 putted 3 times on the front 9, so I feel like there's a bit more to come yet.

If it's shining again tomorrow I'm
heading out again.

kentlad

1,083 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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HaplessBoyLard said:
Woke up this morning on the first day of a week off and the sun was shining, so I headed out alone for a round at my regular local course.

Felt happy and relaxed the whole way round, and it showed in the scoring. I managed a PB 84. (Previous 86) Tee shots slightly wayward at times, but not finding any real trouble, and irons were going really well. I think I hit 3 real dodgy shots all day.

3 putted 3 times on the front 9, so I feel like there's a bit more to come yet.

If it's shining again tomorrow I'm
heading out again.
Great effort. Got to love the game when a round goes well...got my first round in almost a month on Sunday. Will be happy to break 90...although i always say that and i always end up disappointed if i don't break 80...got to love this game!

HaplessBoyLard

1,548 posts

188 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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kentlad said:
Great effort. Got to love the game when a round goes well...got my first round in almost a month on Sunday. Will be happy to break 90...although i always say that and i always end up disappointed if i don't break 80...got to love this game!
Went out again today, and played a much tougher course that's about 500 yds longer than yesterday.

Finished with 90, but I'm a bit frustrated with it. 3 or 4 putts fell one roll short of dropping in, which is unforgivable really.

Still hit the ball ok, despite finding some dodgy spots off the tee, so it's positive I suppose.

Skii

1,630 posts

191 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Well the swing is slowly coming together , but I feel I have a long way to go. I've changed to a much stronger left hand grip which is helping to combat the dreaded flip. I need to work on a wider takeaway and keep those elbows closer together , christ it's hard work trying to build a repeatable swing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPBvCnAdE8







SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Just my two penn'orth - you're standing much too upright and too close to the ball, and you're a bit lively on your toes. Better to be more 'planted'.

Consider your arms and shoulders more of a single unit in the takeaway - rotate from your core. Think about bringing your left shoulder in to meet your right hip. I'd say there's too much arm and wrist and not enough shoulder going on.

One exercise - tie a necktie around your elbows at address and see if that makes things more of a unit.

smile

Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 30th October 07:29

kentlad

1,083 posts

183 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
Just my two penn'orth - you're standing much too upright and too close to the ball, and you're a bit lively on your toes. Better to be more 'planted'.

Consider your arms and shoulders more of a single unit in the takeaway - rotate from your core. Think about bringing your left shoulder in to meet your right hip. I'd say there's too much arm and wrist and not enough shoulder going on.

One exercise - tie a necktie around your elbows at address and see if that makes things more of a unit.

smile

Edited by SpeckledJim on Thursday 30th October 07:29
I'd agree with the above...to sort out being too close to the ball & being too upright, try the following.

step back from the ball...slide your hands down to your knees and bend them slightly...then from there you should be bent over far enough to form an athletic base - next, slide the club until it's behind the ball - that should space you out properly from the ball. if you don't quite 'get' what i mean...let me know & I'll upload a video example for you tonight. That set up drill should give you a nice 'neutral' base to start from.






Skii

1,630 posts

191 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Very helpful, thanks chaps. Just comparing my posture to the experts and there's about 15-20 degrees difference in spine angle!

I'll try some posture exercises and one piece takeaway drills as you suggest.



Loudy McFatass

8,852 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Anyone had a smack of a G30 SF Tec (anti slice) driver yet?

kentlad

1,083 posts

183 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Loudy McFatass said:
Anyone had a smack of a G30 SF Tec (anti slice) driver yet?
Any driver that claims to be 'anti slice' is a gimmick IMO. Slice is caused by club path & impact...not by the clubs design...


JamesNotJim

755 posts

186 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Loudy McFatass said:
Anyone had a smack of a G30 SF Tec (anti slice) driver yet?
It goes left, really left. I had a play with one and I could barely hit a cut with it. I play a draw 95% of the time and it was making me hit some of the biggest draws I've seen.
I wouldn't call it anti slice, all its does, due to the weighting, is close the face a lot easier. So instead of swiping across the ball with an open face hitting weak spinny fades, it closes the face and you start hitting pull fades instead.
Try one out side by side the normal G30, you'll notice what I mean in only a few hits.

This explains in more detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3lgnOQ7DU

WinkleHoff

736 posts

235 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Skii said:
Well the swing is slowly coming together , but I feel I have a long way to go. I've changed to a much stronger left hand grip which is helping to combat the dreaded flip. I need to work on a wider takeaway and keep those elbows closer together , christ it's hard work trying to build a repeatable swing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPBvCnAdE8






I'm always cautions about internet based golf advice, because there are so many possible fault areas that really only a good coach can diagnose for you (I speak from experience), and sometimes the advice can do more harm than good and get you focusing on the wrong thingse. Grip stance and posture are all important, but you need to swing the club on plane or it won't make much difference to you. On the way back you are pulling the club way inside, if you freeze your video at three seconds the but end of your club is pointing to the bottom of the right hand bay divider! Way too flat. For an example, check out Charl Schwarzl's swing and freeze it at 16 seconds at the same point in the back swing;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swCYoF9b9PI

See the difference? Notice how the butt end of his club is pointing at the ball, on plane, and as it works up the plane it keeps pointing at the ball to target line. Much more upright. The club must swing on plane for solid contact and a good repeatable swing. As a result of taking the club back inside like that, you have to make compensations. You also have zero width at the top. Schwarzl gets lots of width at the top by working up the plane (look how high his hands are), using his body rotation to get there. People talk about width in the takeaway, thats great, but look how his body and hips all move as one, working the club up on the line. The club must come up, and not just around. Notice how his right hip also goes upwards as well as around. It's subtle but it's there. My advice (FWIW) is to get in front of a mirror or your patio doors and work ons these positions slowly and carefully. Seriously, it will make a huge difference and pay dividends compared to just bashing range balls.

Regarding standing too close, Schwarzl doesn't look massively different in terms of distance at address, but his club position in the backswing is different.

For another example, check Luke Donald at 0.07 seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rpqW2Z9Vw

Hogan, Nicklaus, Snead, they all got the club up on the plane.

Lessons with a good pro are invaluable too. Hope his helps.

Skii

1,630 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Winklehoff - thankyou for taking the time out to illustrate that backswing plane, that is a huge help and really highlights the difference clearly. I'm working hard on better posture and trying to take the club away wide and low - a quick check of my reflection shows a much steeper backswing plane.

great stuff, makes it so much clearer what I have to work on (must film myself more often!)


kentlad

1,083 posts

183 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Played in pretty awful conditions today....35 points with 4 blobs...50 front 9 followed by a 41 back 9...got to love this game! ha! Can't wait to try and reduce those blobs next weekend! Need to get the handicap cut from 14 to 12 by christmas! biggrin