Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

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Rosscow

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8,787 posts

164 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Would love to see any of the Brits do it - but especially Donald or Westwood.

Obviously a back to back win for Rose would be unreal!

If not, then I'd like someone like Bradley or Snedeker.

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Holy low scoring batman - has Kaymer gone and spoilt it all before the second round's even over?


Rosscow

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8,787 posts

164 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Hats off to him - quality golf from start to finish.

You can probably count his errors for the entire tournament on one hand! Top drawer.

timlongs

1,729 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Hit a SLDR driver tonight. Bog standard 12 degree with nothing changed. Wow it certainly goes... going to get fitted properly next week and see how much I can gain by #loftingup

Rosscow

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8,787 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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I really like the look of the mini-driver. Going to hit one of those soon.

Challo

10,222 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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First 9holes of the year tonight. Not a great score but was hitting the ball cleaner then ever before, and seemed to underestimate my distances.

Ruined it with a few 3 putts, and poor chipping round the green. Onwards and upwards

snowy

541 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Having won some Money on Ricky Fowler in the US open, had odds of 100/1 E/W, treated myself to a new RBZ phase 11 5 and 3 wood, used them last night for the first time

Very impressed!!! shot a gross 78

milner993

1,299 posts

163 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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if anyones a member of their local club I would be interested to know how you make the cost of your membership worthwhile I work 6 days a week one day off during the week and every other sunday off are there any other perks that make £700+ a year good value

DuncanM

6,211 posts

280 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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milner993 said:
if anyones a member of their local club I would be interested to know how you make the cost of your membership worthwhile I work 6 days a week one day off during the week and every other sunday off are there any other perks that make £700+ a year good value
5 Day membership might suit you more?

I work shifts so I am a 5 day member and play in the week.

Cost wise, £700 is less than £15 a week which works out pretty cheap if you try and play once a week. Even if you only get out 3 times a month you're winning.

Plus, there is something really nice about just walking up and grabbing a card and Playing, playing a quick 9 practice in the evening etc.

You also get to play in real comps, and there is usually lots going on at the club to get involved with.

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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DuncanM said:
milner993 said:
if anyones a member of their local club I would be interested to know how you make the cost of your membership worthwhile I work 6 days a week one day off during the week and every other sunday off are there any other perks that make £700+ a year good value
5 Day membership might suit you more?

I work shifts so I am a 5 day member and play in the week.

Cost wise, £700 is less than £15 a week which works out pretty cheap if you try and play once a week. Even if you only get out 3 times a month you're winning.

Plus, there is something really nice about just walking up and grabbing a card and Playing, playing a quick 9 practice in the evening etc.

You also get to play in real comps, and there is usually lots going on at the club to get involved with.
This - mostly.

As Duncan said if you're keen you can play every day that you have off + every summer evening with enough light, probably adds up to 150 days playing a year or £4.50 per round and nipping out for 6/9/12 holes is a lovely way to finish your day.

Competitions? Not really my thing but I play in 3 a week because comp golf beats no golf at all.

£700 a year seems a lot though - is that a fairly average membership price?

DuncanM

6,211 posts

280 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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cheddar said:
This - mostly.

As Duncan said if you're keen you can play every day that you have off + every summer evening with enough light, probably adds up to 150 days playing a year or £4.50 per round and nipping out for 6/9/12 holes is a lovely way to finish your day.

Competitions? Not really my thing but I play in 3 a week because comp golf beats no golf at all.

£700 a year seems a lot though - is that a fairly average membership price?
Cheddar £700 is cheap! Right at the bottom end for 7 day membership.

I pay £550 5 day on a nice course and consider myself lucky smile

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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DuncanM said:
Cheddar £700 is cheap! Right at the bottom end for 7 day membership.

I pay £550 5 day on a nice course and consider myself lucky smile
Oh - I'm surprised Duncan, bit shocked at the "right at the bottom end for 7 day membership" - economies of scale and supply/demand I guess. I bet your facilities are in another league to here though.

This'll sound like the 'worst look how little my membership costs posts ever' but I pay £150 a year for 365 day membership + £2 for each tournament I enter.

The clubhouse only fully opens on Saturday (quite quiet here) but you can request the use of it mid-week to eat lunch etc for free or rent it exclusively for £50 a day - but we're not talking leather wing back chairs, multiple log fires, beautiful cocktail waitresses, swimming pools and gymnasiums here, salubrious it is not smile

For milner993 - try joining for a year, see who you meet, how you get on and how your game improves (it will) otherwise you'll always wonder what it would have been like - remember it's not £700, it's the difference between what you would have spent paying green fees and the membership costs + you'll nip out in the evening for a few holes that you otherwise wouldn't get to do.

And let us know how you go.

DuncanM

6,211 posts

280 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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cheddar said:
Oh - I'm surprised Duncan, bit shocked at the "right at the bottom end for 7 day membership" - economies of scale and supply/demand I guess. I bet your facilities are in another league to here though.

This'll sound like the 'worst look how little my membership costs posts ever' but I pay £150 a year for 365 day membership + £2 for each tournament I enter.

The clubhouse only fully opens on Saturday (quite quiet here) but you can request the use of it mid-week to eat lunch etc for free or rent it exclusively for £50 a day - but we're not talking leather wing back chairs, multiple log fires, beautiful cocktail waitresses, swimming pools and gymnasiums here, salubrious it is not smile

For milner993 - try joining for a year, see who you meet, how you get on and how your game improves (it will) otherwise you'll always wonder what it would have been like - remember it's not £700, it's the difference between what you would have spent paying green fees and the membership costs + you'll nip out in the evening for a few holes that you otherwise wouldn't get to do.

And let us know how you go.
Great post Cheddar, oh my god is that cheap! How do they maintain a golf course with that income?

Decent courses in England can charge £150 a round, and I'm not joking!

In fact, the silly famous course like Wentworth will be closer to £300 a round frown

cheddar

4,637 posts

175 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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DuncanM said:
Great post Cheddar, oh my god is that cheap! How do they maintain a golf course with that income?

Decent courses in England can charge £150 a round, and I'm not joking!

In fact, the silly famous course like Wentworth will be closer to £300 a round frown
I used to wonder myself how they do it, found it scary to be honest as I couldn't reconcile the maths.

But, incredibly we're in 'semi' rude health.

We only have around 50 members who are active weekly and about 130 altogether.

Annual income breaksdown like this:

Green fees £25,000
Membership £20,000
Bar profit £18,000
Sponsorship £20,000
Tournaments £10,000
Shop profit £7000
Misc £5000

Total annual income approx £100,000 - probably wouldn't run a high end club for a week!

Outgoings:

Greenkeepers (two, part time) £18,000
Machinery upkeep etc £5000
Prizes £4000
Elecy/bills/cleaner £10,000
Lease £10,000
Misc £5000

Total £62,000 (say £70k all up)



Balance, give or take: £30,000

Having only two paid staff keep outgoings low, all other work - garden care, coaching, painting, bar staff, captaincy, presidency, secretarial, treasury, committee etc is voluntary - we all (well some) muck in, I try to do two part time days a week on menial physical stuff, coaching beginners, and business advising.

I wonder what an average UK club brings in annually? Any idea?





Rosscow

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8,787 posts

164 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Shot 86 this morning, played pretty solid.

Almost got an eagle 3.

CRB14

1,493 posts

153 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Shocking weekend for me. Shot a 103 in the Saturday comp and came second to last with a nett 85. No idea what's happened to me. Think it's time for some lessons. I seem to be pushing all my irons. Perhaps I've opened the face again. I used to do that a few years ago.


Rosscow

Original Poster:

8,787 posts

164 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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DuncanM said:
cheddar said:
Oh - I'm surprised Duncan, bit shocked at the "right at the bottom end for 7 day membership" - economies of scale and supply/demand I guess. I bet your facilities are in another league to here though.

This'll sound like the 'worst look how little my membership costs posts ever' but I pay £150 a year for 365 day membership + £2 for each tournament I enter.

The clubhouse only fully opens on Saturday (quite quiet here) but you can request the use of it mid-week to eat lunch etc for free or rent it exclusively for £50 a day - but we're not talking leather wing back chairs, multiple log fires, beautiful cocktail waitresses, swimming pools and gymnasiums here, salubrious it is not smile

For milner993 - try joining for a year, see who you meet, how you get on and how your game improves (it will) otherwise you'll always wonder what it would have been like - remember it's not £700, it's the difference between what you would have spent paying green fees and the membership costs + you'll nip out in the evening for a few holes that you otherwise wouldn't get to do.

And let us know how you go.
Great post Cheddar, oh my god is that cheap! How do they maintain a golf course with that income?

Decent courses in England can charge £150 a round, and I'm not joking!

In fact, the silly famous course like Wentworth will be closer to £300 a round frown
That is very cheap, I thought I had it good at £290 a year all in!!

However I agree with Duncan, £700 a year is very much at the lower end of golf membership costs.

Rosscow

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8,787 posts

164 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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CRB14 said:
Shocking weekend for me. Shot a 103 in the Saturday comp and came second to last with a nett 85. No idea what's happened to me. Think it's time for some lessons. I seem to be pushing all my irons. Perhaps I've opened the face again. I used to do that a few years ago.
Ouch, that doesn't sound too enjoyable. I've had a few of those rounds recently though.


milner993

1,299 posts

163 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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looking at the fees to join the club I like the most would pay its way as a mid week round is £28 so the offer that’s on for a 7 day membership at £795 reduced from £895 and a suspended joining fee is good value for money, the issue I have at the moment is I like to play various courses at the moment whilst I'm still at a high handicap (20) I think until my handicap drops to 10-15 I want to play in different situations hopefully making me a better player, I'm still having lessons and have seen a big change in my swing with better ball flight and lower scores so the £800 will go to game improvements as and when I need them.

Would be nice if Piston Heads could run a Golf day once a year nice cars, Golf and a good meal. beer


snowy

541 posts

282 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Clubs packed for a long weekend playing golf in Belek, flying out Thursday with 7 mates, playing the following courses

Nobilis
Carya
Gloria New Course
Cornelia (Faldo) Prince Course

This will be our 5th time in Belek, great courses and lots of drinking, all crammed into 4 days