Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

[snowy]

JohnSW20 said:

Hi All

Any help out there, I have developed a bad habit where by I drive the ball into the ground about 10 inches in-front of the tee!!!!! Everything seems the same and I've not changed anything. I've tried increasing the height of the tee, moving it around in my stance, slowing the back swing down anything I can think of. I will have a lesson but not just now as I have a golf day next Friday and I know the Pro will ruin me in the short term. Anyone any quick fix ideas?

Could be when your club is arriving at impact with the ball, the club is at a different height than when at address, ie higher, therefore coming off the very bottom of the driver face, hitting the ball into the ground?, try maintaining your head height from address to impact

that could be a wild arse guess, but does it make sense?

[JohnSW20]

snowy said:

Could be when your club is arriving at impact with the ball, the club is at a different height than when at address, ie higher, therefore coming off the very bottom of the driver face, hitting the ball into the ground?, try maintaining your head height from address to impact

that could be a wild arse guess, but does it make sense?

Thank you I've tried everything I can think of with no joy, played 9 holes last night every drive into the floor apart from one and thankfully on a hole where 4 lads let me through. They all sat on the back of the tee box on the floor watching!!!

[anonymous-user]

JohnSW20 said:

snowy said:

Could be when your club is arriving at impact with the ball, the club is at a different height than when at address, ie higher, therefore coming off the very bottom of the driver face, hitting the ball into the ground?, try maintaining your head height from address to impact

that could be a wild arse guess, but does it make sense?

Thank you I've tried everything I can think of with no joy, played 9 holes last night every drive into the floor apart from one and thankfully on a hole where 4 lads let me through. They all sat on the back of the tee box on the floor watching!!!

First thing I would look for is ball position in the stance and the width of stance. Again without seeing set-up, posture and swing hard to tell, but if the ball is too forward and your weight isn't transferring thru to the left correctly (ie stance is too wide), you'll be "hanging back" on the right side, which will promote an exaggerated upward club head trajectory at impact, combine that with the ball being too far forward, means you could be hitting it right on the leading edge of the face or possibly event he underside.....seen that a few times!




Ball position relative to the left left/instep barely changes for standard full shots....knockdowns, pitches, chipping etc of course it should vary, but in the main the only change should really be the width of the stance created by moving the right leg.

[JohnSW20]

djstevec said:

First thing I would look for is ball position in the stance and the width of stance. Again without seeing set-up, posture and swing hard to tell, but if the ball is too forward and your weight isn't transferring thru to the left correctly (ie stance is too wide), you'll be "hanging back" on the right side, which will promote an exaggerated upward club head trajectory at impact, combine that with the ball being too far forward, means you could be hitting it right on the leading edge of the face or possibly event he underside.....seen that a few times!




Ball position relative to the left left/instep barely changes for standard full shots....knockdowns, pitches, chipping etc of course it should vary, but in the main the only change should really be the width of the stance created by moving the right leg.

Thank You I'll try anything at the minute!!

[anonymous-user]

JohnSW20 said:

Thank You I'll try anything at the minute!!

Looking at yr profile, yr in London....assuming SW20 is home and the range on the Kingston by-pass is yr regular range, for a fellow Cerb owner I wouldn't mind popping down and seeing if I can help in anyway.

[JohnSW20]

djstevec said:

Looking at yr profile, yr in London....assuming SW20 is home and the range on the Kingston by-pass is yr regular range, for a fellow Cerb owner I wouldn't mind popping down and seeing if I can help in anyway.

Hi and thank you The Cerbera has now gone but to a good home as its going to have a full body off refurb and talk of a Corvette engine going in.

Are you the Silver Cerb I've seen a couple of times around Raynes Park?

Jophn

[anonymous-user]

JohnSW20 said:

djstevec said:

Looking at yr profile, yr in London....assuming SW20 is home and the range on the Kingston by-pass is yr regular range, for a fellow Cerb owner I wouldn't mind popping down and seeing if I can help in anyway.

Hi and thank you The Cerbera has now gone but to a good home as its going to have a full body off refurb and talk of a Corvette engine going in.

Are you the Silver Cerb I've seen a couple of times around Raynes Park?

Jophn

Corvette engine...pah, cough splutter, cough!! Sacrilege!!

Home for me is deepest darkest Woolwich, and the Cerb is at APM atm putting the big oily bits back in after a 2.5 year nut and bolt restoration and respray....so Im on the A3 quite often!

Silver Cerb might be Yosini...think he lives down that way from fading memory of TiTT9.

Edited by djstevec on Wednesday 23 July 18:00

[cheddar]

milner993 said:

my last three scores were 92, 94, 98
sometimes I can quite easily hit 3 rounds in the 100s but that doesn't happen very often.
howblong did it take other people to see significant improvements in their game?

Took me a year to go from 100+ to my first ever 99 then my first 89 then a best of 75.

After that I submitted 5 cards and was given a provisional handicap of 18 which soon came down to 14.6 then went out a little.

There's no reason why a regular golfer with no physical impediments and a focused, considerate perspective (as yours sounds) shouldn't be able to play off of a 10 handicap.

I'm a little wild and still think I can make the green from 250 out when my balls sitting halfway up a tree, hence the 14 handicap.

[milner993]

cheddar said:

milner993 said:

my last three scores were 92, 94, 98
sometimes I can quite easily hit 3 rounds in the 100s but that doesn't happen very often.
howblong did it take other people to see significant improvements in their game?

I'm a little wild and still think I can make the green from 250 out when my balls sitting halfway up a tree, hence the 14 handicap.

That sounds like me yesterday I hit a perfect tee shot on a long par 4 had 235 to the pin shanked my 3 wood left and still had 200 yards to the pin but was in the trees and heavy ruff should have chipped out but tried to hit the green shanked it twice 3 feet before my sensible head appeared and I chipped out back in play.
hopfully by next summer I will be posting some lower scores : )

[cheddar]

milner993 said:

That sounds like me yesterday I hit a perfect tee shot on a long par 4 had 235 to the pin shanked my 3 wood left and still had 200 yards to the pin but was in the trees and heavy ruff should have chipped out but tried to hit the green shanked it twice 3 feet before my sensible head appeared and I chipped out back in play.
hopfully by next summer I will be posting some lower scores : )

Nail on the head milner:

I've just finished playing a round with my greenkeeper and his work partner - both ex-scratch players and county champions - and we were all square through 6 holes on 1 over par then the difference started to kick in.

I made a couple of mistakes, they just didn't, simple.

The greenkeeper told me that "It's not the good holes that determine your score, it's the bad holes" - what he meant is that that the odd birdie here and there won't make up for 7/8/9's (and the occasional 10!) on the bad holes.

They finished at 3 over and 6 over par (one is 62 years old, the other is 67) and I was 13 over, all due to mistakes that they never made.

[HaplessBoyLard]

JohnSW20 said:

Hi All

Any help out there, I have developed a bad habit where by I drive the ball into the ground about 10 inches in-front of the tee!!!!! Everything seems the same and I've not changed anything. I've tried increasing the height of the tee, moving it around in my stance, slowing the back swing down anything I can think of. I will have a lesson but not just now as I have a golf day next Friday and I know the Pro will ruin me in the short term. Anyone any quick fix ideas?

I used to top the ball a lot. I had some lessons and it turned out I was straightening my back leg in the back swing, effectively making me stand taller as I swung through. I was told to maintain some resistance/flex in the rear leg in the backswing, which more or less cured that problem overnight. It felt as if I was bending the leg more at first, but all I was actually doing was resisting the tendency to straighten it.

This also helped me get the weight on to the front foot at impact.

[BRMMA]

Absolute rubbish last night, the occasional glimpses of some decent golf but generally just crap, next year i will put more effort into my practicing and will be making a concerted effort to keep the ball in play more

[Dan_1981]

Must. Stop. Lifting. Head. Up.


Last thing I think about on my back swing is, keep head down, look at the ball, eyes on the prize, yada yada.

Clubs starts to swing through, head lifts, it all goes wrong.

My discipline is shocking.

[andr3w]

Dan_1981 said:

Must. Stop. Lifting. Head. Up.


Last thing I think about on my back swing is, keep head down, look at the ball, eyes on the prize, yada yada.

Clubs starts to swing through, head lifts, it all goes wrong.

My discipline is shocking.

I wouldn't try and keep the head down unnaturally. It's attached to your upper body so should come up as you swing through. Trying to keep it down artificially will limit extension through the ball.

Watch face on videos of Sorenstam or Duval, their heads come up before the hit the ball.

[bodhi]

Agreed. What I normally do, is just make sure I keep my head down long enough to see the club make contact with the ball - after that it can come up naturally.

[GG89]

Dan_1981 said:

Must. Stop. Lifting. Head. Up.


Last thing I think about on my back swing is, keep head down, look at the ball, eyes on the prize, yada yada.

Clubs starts to swing through, head lifts, it all goes wrong.

My discipline is shocking.

I'm almost certain there is other main swing faults at play here buddy.

It's rarely head movement that causes bad shots.

[milner993]

GG89 said:

Dan_1981 said:

Must. Stop. Lifting. Head. Up.


Last thing I think about on my back swing is, keep head down, look at the ball, eyes on the prize, yada yada.

Clubs starts to swing through, head lifts, it all goes wrong.

My discipline is shocking.

I'm almost certain there is other main swing faults at play here buddy.

It's rarely head movement that causes bad shots.

I focus on the back of the ball which always helps me keep my head down give that ago

[Dan_1981]

I'm pretty sure there are a multitude of other sins going off as well

However I know that I do this, I'm looking up wanting to see where the ball has gone before I've struck it.

When I really concentrate on focussing on the back of the ball, until I've actually struck it, my game is pretty good.

But the minute I lose concentration, I'm all over the place.

[cheddar]

milner993 said:

GG89 said:

Dan_1981 said:

Must. Stop. Lifting. Head. Up.


Last thing I think about on my back swing is, keep head down, look at the ball, eyes on the prize, yada yada.

Clubs starts to swing through, head lifts, it all goes wrong.

My discipline is shocking.

I'm almost certain there is other main swing faults at play here buddy.

It's rarely head movement that causes bad shots.

I focus on the back of the ball which always helps me keep my head down give that ago

I've been having a bad spell of this lately and it's been costing me 10 - 20 strokes a round, infuriating habit but it's not the head alone it's 'coming up out of the shot' that causes the topping.

Twisting your neck doesn't make you come up, it's the chest and head lifting up that puts weight on the back foot (just when it should be transferring to the front foot) and brings the club up with it.

So much easier talking about it than putting it into action.......

How are those new irons treating you Rosscow?

[Cbull]

Some advice please chaps. It's my birthday next week so I'm considering spoiling myself a GPS device. I have the Garmin G6 in mind (DG doing it for £170 I think). However, there are later models out (G7 & G8) but after looking at a couple of reviews I can't seem to find many differences to warrant the extra £120 & £200. Does anyone have any experience of these devices? Obviously I'd prefer the latest model but that will require more saving. Thanks.

All be it lessons would undoubtedly help me out more ha.