Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

Golf Thread 2014 - All Things Golf!

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cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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scjgreen said:
Can anyone give me some help as to why when I hit my Driver it always drifts right?
Playing off of your back foot/club face is open/hitting too hard/hips coming through before your arms/ball too far back in your stance/chest coming up/hitting across the ball instead of coming round it/standing too far away from your ball etc etc etc .....

Take your pick or upload a quick vid so the proper PH pro's can help smile

DuncanM

6,177 posts

279 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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cheddar said:
Mr Pies said:
Ashamed to say I walked off the course today after 7 holes.
Yet again my iron play ruining everything.
Slicing and topping still. 7 lessons, play once maybe twice a week sometimes, still don't feel like I'm improving.

I could be reading too much into it though today as yesterday I battered my chest and biceps at the gym. Can hardly straighten my arms today.

Still feel extremely dejected.
Mmmm, there's your answer.......
Cheddar has it spot on, working out and Golf don't mix, you need recovery time before playing frown

Cbull

4,464 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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cheddar said:
scjgreen said:
Can anyone give me some help as to why when I hit my Driver it always drifts right?
Playing off of your back foot/club face is open/hitting too hard/hips coming through before your arms/ball too far back in your stance/chest coming up/hitting across the ball instead of coming round it/standing too far away from your ball etc etc etc .....

Take your pick or upload a quick vid so the proper PH pro's can help smile
Think I may also have a look into this.

So, went into AG still undecided on whether or not to buy a G6 or just use the phones free apps, hoping they could give me a little run through the device. Came out with S4 watch, sat in the car and thought how the hell did I come out with this (got a good price though). Ah well, being all exited to use it, had a day off golfing at Walton Hall and managed to shoot the worst score in the last 24 months, not even 1 good shot to walk away with. Sometimes it's a wonder why I bother at all. On a positive note the watch worked great smile.

Need allot of lessons.

kentlad

1,079 posts

183 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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DuncanM said:
Cheddar has it spot on, working out and Golf don't mix, you need recovery time before playing frown
I'd have to disagree. i work out 5 times a week when the time permits. Granted i wouldn't play the same day, but the next day definitely. As long as you warm up correctly before both, you shouldn't have an issue. Although 95% of people who go to the gym don't warm up properly & i'd guess 75% of golfers also won't warm up correctly. Try and find some golf specific stretches to do before even lifting a club...it is a sport after all wink

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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kentlad said:
DuncanM said:
Cheddar has it spot on, working out and Golf don't mix, you need recovery time before playing frown
I'd have to disagree. i work out 5 times a week when the time permits. Granted i wouldn't play the same day, but the next day definitely. As long as you warm up correctly before both, you shouldn't have an issue. Although 95% of people who go to the gym don't warm up properly & i'd guess 75% of golfers also won't warm up correctly. Try and find some golf specific stretches to do before even lifting a club...it is a sport after all wink
Agree with all of that except that 'Mr Pies' said he battered himself and couldn't straighten his arms.

I have never seen any player at my club warm up before a round of golf - the odd one chips a couple of balls and slashes their driver about once or twice but not one of them ever warms up properly, in fact I sometimes get players walking over to me and asking what I'm doing as I'm stretching, last week one of them shouted over "Gotta bad back?" smile

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I stretch to warm my back up before a round, but then I'm old and nackered (31!)

Anyway, played my first round in 13 months last night, scored 27 points off an 18 handicap which I was pretty happy with. Officially my H'cap only ever got down to 23.1, but I was never allowed more than 18 when playing my old man as I used to raise my game. Went with that mentality and did alright, 2 lots of silly 4 putts, a few 3 off the Tee's and some slightly wayward irons, but generally a solid game considering the lack of play I've had.

Hopefully get out a few more times and play more consistently.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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How do points work?

Been playing just over a year now and I'm now regularly hitting below 100 and a PB of 90. Recently my driving seems to have clicked which has taken about 10 shots off of my round. Almost never slice them now and can hit near 300 yards consistently.

At the moment failing to go 'up and down' when I get within 50 yards far too often so although I'm often good at getting 2 putts, it's getting it closer to the flag from within 50 yards so I can 1 putt is the issue.

Bought a TaylorMade RBZ 3 wood (to go with the Driver and 3 Hybrid) and what a club it is! Don't get on with the hydrid, but the 3 wood is fantastic.

Edited by Boydie88 on Thursday 31st July 12:16

JohnSW20

886 posts

237 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Boydie88 said:
How do points work?

Been playing just over a year now and I'm now regularly hitting below 100 and a PB of 90. Recently my driving seems to have clicked which has taken about 10 shots off of my round. Almost never slice them now and can hit near 300 yards consistently.

At the moment failing to go 'up and down' when I get within 50 yards far too often so although I'm often good at getting 2 putts, it's getting it closer to the flag from within 50 yards so I can 1 putt is the issue.

Bought a TaylorMade RBZ 3 wood (to go with the Driver and 3 Hybrid) and what a club it is! Don't get on with the hydrid, but the 3 wood is fantastic.

Edited by Boydie88 on Thursday 31st July 12:16
For me it would be a 60 degree wedge I've just bought a Callaway Mack Daddy and I think its fantastic gives the ball plenty of spin to stop it on the green.

Boydie88

3,283 posts

149 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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I've got a cheapo 60 degree wedge which is lovely when it all comes together but it doesn't half punish a ropey swing.

kentlad

1,079 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Boydie88 said:
I've got a cheapo 60 degree wedge which is lovely when it all comes together but it doesn't half punish a ropey swing.
it shouldn't. it should be the easiest club to hit in your bag...more loft = more fogiveness.

try putting the ball back in your stance, if that doesn't help maybe take a look at the 'bounce' on the club...could be part of the issue if you top it a lot or if you fat it. Once you learn to use the bounce (if that's the issue)...then you should become a lot more consistent with it! not saying it will be either of those, but they were the two issues i ran into!

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Personally if I'm within 50yds I punch a 9 iron along the floor, find it gets me a heck of a lot closer than a lob wedge ever did.


AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Boydie88 said:
How do points work?


Edited by Boydie88 on Thursday 31st July 12:16
1 for a net bogey
2 for a net par
3 for a net birdie
4 for a net eagle.

Your net score for the hole is taken from your handicap, so if you're off 18 and you hit a 5 on a par 4 you take the 1 shot off your score for a 4 and then get 2 points. Easy.

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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AlmostUseful said:
Personally if I'm within 50yds I punch a 9 iron along the floor, find it gets me a heck of a lot closer than a lob wedge ever did.
A well struck dead stop lob wedge can be a killer shot but hit it just a tiny bit thin and it's gone 40 metres wrong.....

I used to to lob with a 64 degree 100% of the time and got very good at it but lately I've I've been using your 'chip and run' method - nothing like as sexy, can be a bit hit and miss on bumpy fairways but it's a lower risk shot.


Nom de ploom

4,890 posts

174 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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news today that Dustin Johnson is taking a break from golf. no US PGA and moreover no Ryder Cup.

was he a "woods" waiting to happen or just over played?

Can anyone see the US beating us on home soil at Gleneagles???


DuncanM

6,177 posts

279 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Nom de ploom said:
news today that Dustin Johnson is taking a break from golf. no US PGA and moreover no Ryder Cup.

was he a "woods" waiting to happen or just over played?

Can anyone see the US beating us on home soil at Gleneagles???
That is strange news considering he had a very good showing at The Open.

He's an interesting player as he seems to enjoy a celebrity style life, whilst still playing well, I like him.

lenny007

1,338 posts

221 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Following my worst round "ever" (since i restarted back in Aug 13), i've proceeded to knock my H/C from 23.7 to 19.8.

My target for the year was to get below 20 so technically i've not achieved it yet but it's been great seeing the progression. I've change my target now to get to 18 which i think is reasonable, bearing in mind i've only played 6 times this year.

Biggest change in my game was being able to hit driver. I've changed my grip to one with a "stronger" right hand and more often than not i'm in the fairway. Distance off the tee is probably about 270 - 290 dependant on the fairway conditions so i'm not a massive hitter but it's better than being 300 off the tee and 100 off to the right of the fairway!

Funnily enough, i'm not going to the range as much but playing more. Also when i do go to the range, it's with a purpose to try and improve one element and not just to hit a bucket of balls.

Finally, the biggest mental change i've tried to make is to play bogey golf. It means i'm not berating myself for bad shots and if i double bogey a hole, all i need is a par to retrieve it - takes a lot of pressure off your shoulders realising you don't have to birdie everything / go for the par 5 in 2 over water, etc.


AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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cheddar said:
A well struck dead stop lob wedge can be a killer shot but hit it just a tiny bit thin and it's gone 40 metres wrong.....
That's the trouble though isn't it, we all try to hit the killer shot when we've only got about a 10% chance of hitting it. I managed to cut so many shots from my game by not trying anything fancy, sure I'll cut or fade around trees occasionally, but that's about it, I'm just trying to lower my scores now so play the percentage game.

But christ, isn't it awesome when we do hit that killer shot!

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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AlmostUseful said:
cheddar said:
A well struck dead stop lob wedge can be a killer shot but hit it just a tiny bit thin and it's gone 40 metres wrong.....
That's the trouble though isn't it, we all try to hit the killer shot when we've only got about a 10% chance of hitting it. I managed to cut so many shots from my game by not trying anything fancy, sure I'll cut or fade around trees occasionally, but that's about it, I'm just trying to lower my scores now so play the percentage game.

But christ, isn't it awesome when we do hit that killer shot!
I try anything, however mad it is, I can't help it

We played a tournament in 80mph wind yesterday (yes, really, 80mph) downhill putts were being blown back uphill and one of our group hit a 9 iron almost 200 metres, barmy though it was all I could think about was driving the 330 metre+ greens that are normally out of range.

Hit rate? Zero smile and although I spent more time in the trees than Tarzan I had god fun and my whole group got involved in the unofficial 'longest drive' shots. I carded 91 but I don't care because the roof didn't blow off of my house.

DuncanM

6,177 posts

279 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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270-290 = longer than 99% of golfers, you must know that?

Well played on your progression, really good stuff!

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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lenny007 said:
Following my worst round "ever" (since i restarted back in Aug 13), i've proceeded to knock my H/C from 23.7 to 19.8.

My target for the year was to get below 20 so technically i've not achieved it yet but it's been great seeing the progression. I've change my target now to get to 18 which i think is reasonable, bearing in mind i've only played 6 times this year.

Biggest change in my game was being able to hit driver. I've changed my grip to one with a "stronger" right hand and more often than not i'm in the fairway. Distance off the tee is probably about 270 - 290 dependant on the fairway conditions so i'm not a massive hitter but it's better than being 300 off the tee and 100 off to the right of the fairway!

Funnily enough, i'm not going to the range as much but playing more. Also when i do go to the range, it's with a purpose to try and improve one element and not just to hit a bucket of balls.

Finally, the biggest mental change i've tried to make is to play bogey golf. It means i'm not berating myself for bad shots and if i double bogey a hole, all i need is a par to retrieve it - takes a lot of pressure off your shoulders realising you don't have to birdie everything / go for the par 5 in 2 over water, etc.
If your driver is trustworthy AND going 270-90 yards but you're playing to 20, I'd politely suggest that either you need to spend a lot of time on the putting green, or your shot-selection strategy is floating somewhere on the graph a good way above your shot-making capability.

Playing for bogey is exactly right, but are you actually walking that talk, or still going straight at all pins tucked behind bunkers? Still attempting the 240 yard laser-guided hybrid into par 5s?

A successful 270 yard start on most holes should be seeing 50% pars at worst, really, if your shot-selection is a good match for your shot-making.