Summer Rugby Union Internationals

Summer Rugby Union Internationals

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Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Who on earth decided on 08:35 UK time for kick off? confused

Goodness would've been 08:00, so I could've watched the game and then taken the kids to cycling club! hehe

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Kermit power said:
Who on earth decided on 08:35 UK time for kick off? confused

Goodness would've been 08:00, so I could've watched the game and then taken the kids to cycling club! hehe
Never even realised it actually kicked off at 0835hrs. I knew coverage started at 0800hrs.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Is Nigel Evans going to give a knock on against England every time they touch a ball and don't keep it in hand? confused

Even the NZ commentary team have been saying "well that's clearly not a knock on!"

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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And how on earth did the All Blacks not get pinged at that scrum? They were absolutely destroyed!

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Johnny May is doing a good job of making sure Ashton doesn't take his place on the wing....

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Kermit power said:
Is Nigel Evans going to give a knock on against England every time they touch a ball and don't keep it in hand? confused

Even the NZ commentary team have been saying "well that's clearly not a knock on!"
Nige isn't having his best. I reckon they Kiwis were saying in the build up they'd have been a bot apprehensive due to the NH interpretation of the scrum.

It's starting to open up a bit now but England are doing well!

spikeyhead

17,320 posts

197 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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We'll fade in the last 20 mins with lack of bench strength

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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a311 said:
Nige isn't having his best. I reckon they Kiwis were saying in the build up they'd have been a bot apprehensive due to the NH interpretation of the scrum.

It's starting to open up a bit now but England are doing well!
Well they were until that card. Hardly consistent, given that the All Blacks have had two professional fouls almost on the line! Again, even the Kiwi commentators were saying how very lucky their own guys were to stay on the field....

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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a311 said:
Nige isn't having his best.
Having seen the cynical play the ref has let NZ get away with that is a joke.

NZ great with ball in hand but there general niggling cynical play is very annoying. As are their crowd - watching on TV it seems they have a sense of entitlement.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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spikeyhead said:
We'll fade in the last 20 mins with lack of bench strength
Probably and Nigel Owens as much as I respect the guy isn't being consistent.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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gutted with that.

When you take the issues with the timing of the game and the players not available - I would say it's one of the best performances I have seen from England.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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England didn't deserve to get beat in this one, NZ just seem to be able to win regardless if they'd been second best for the 80. Reminiscent of the Ireland game in the Autumn.

They've done very well today, our first choice XV would have put them away today I reckon.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Cheating bds.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Those England players can be soooo proud of themselves, despite the result. Nigel Evans did not have a good day today.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Kermit power said:
Those England players can be soooo proud of themselves, despite the result. Nigel Evans did not have a good day today.
yes

I frequent a few rugby forums, found them after various Lions Tours. Things I picked up on the build up to this one were, our colonial cousins didn't have a clue who more than half of our side were today, Robshaw they see as a bit of journey man-he was one of the best players on the pitch, was Richie McKaw playing?! They were expecting to cream our scrum today.

There's more respect for Stuart Lancaster's side than I expected down under and they're quite fancied for the World Cup. We got a bit over confident at times trying to play too much in our own half, we need to develop a cutting edge from somewhere you won't get many chances against the top sides and when you get them you have to take them.

NZ can't play that badly again can they? Gona be tasty next week.

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Hope Nigel Owens gets binned by the IRU, that was dreadful reffing.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Mr Snap said:
Hope Nigel Owens gets binned by the IRU, that was dreadful reffing.
He's been one of, if not the best ref in the world IMO for a few years now. He wasn't great in the HC semi between Sar/Cle and the playoff final between Wasps and Stade in the recent games I've watched-despite the decisions going against England I'd rather have him reffing an England game than anyone else.

prand

5,916 posts

196 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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I would have been more than happy with that result or the performance before the game, and saw some good glimpses from the '2nd string' players who weren't expected ro do much. shame England couldn't convert some of their breaks into tries though, they were always one player or pass or drop that prevented a the killer blow. I was surprised by the backs, not a bad showing at all, and rhe forwards show huge strength in depth now.

Having watched it, I'm gutted they couldn't draw or even win in the end, England did the shirt proud but a loss is still a loss, at least the series is not going to be a completely 1 sided tour of death, but I still fear a whitewash.

Credit to the All Blacks, another win, even if it was ugly for them, they know how to win and stop others beating them. The move when they scored their killer try was a perfect example: the final penalty was run into the corner, not kicked (self belief?!), the following scrum meant England would have been happy to defend the situation as with a man down, the scrum could cover the short side. So New Zealand pick and drive infield enough to create a 2 on 1 with space up the blind side. Clever execution, May didn't stand a chance.


The best teams always get accused of cheating or ref bias, goes with the territory of making your own luck. England had their chances, better execution would have won it. Good effort though, NZ knew they were in a game, and there is all to play for still next week.



Edited by prand on Saturday 7th June 12:07

GravelBen

15,686 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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An ugly win but a win, your boys certainly made us work for it so credit where its due! AB's are often a bit wobbly for their first test of the season, next week will be interesting.

Edited by GravelBen on Saturday 7th June 11:50

thehawk

9,335 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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The French are doing well