Summer Rugby Union Internationals

Summer Rugby Union Internationals

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NickNJ

128 posts

182 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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He could take longer. I'd worry about his decision making as league is more structured where As in union you tend to play what is in front of you more, add in the fact he is a prop forward in league then you can see the difficulties he will face.

That said he is one of the NRL's best and will be arguably the best athlete in that England team, similar to SBW who also excels in both codes - he took 12 months to understand the differences between the codes though...

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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If he manages 75% of Sonny Bill's standard he'll still be an asset to England

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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I reckon Burgess will do well, I expect himinitally to be at least be as good as Tuilagi but will tackle better. Eastmond got hung out to dry in the third test, I hope he gets another shot, he played scrum half at St Helens from what I remember and is a bit different to anything else out there at the moment-could be a strong potential partnership with Burgess at Bath.

NickNJ

128 posts

182 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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He did indeed play scrum half for St Helens, they almost ruined him by doing so. They tried to mould him into an organising scrum half. I have no idea why and it failed, Eastmond is a freakish talent with the ball in hand, he's a fantastic ball runner and in rugby league that's mostly the full back. He can't defend for st, he can't read a game, he's too small - but he is so quick and agile that it almost makes up for his troubles elsewhere. Doubt he will shift Brown at FB and Sam Burgess will no doubt be a better RU player than Eastmond so the most he can hope for is impact off the bench.

He's better suited to The running game of RL, but then so was Jason Robinson and he went alright in RU.

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Im inclined to agree about KE now Ive seen a few games of him up a level. His defensive reading is...er...zilch. As a fb he would be a disaster in Union. Billy didnt just have the feet he had an instinctive talent of reading the field in front of him. He translated that into defense aswell. KE seems not to have that all inclusive level of talent unfortunately frown

rj1986

1,107 posts

168 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Thread revival - with the commonwealth games 7's now over but becoming an olympic sport, and scotland having 2 full time 15 players in the squad, do you think any current england union or league players could be in with a good shout at getting a medal?

Eastmond could do really well at 7's, strong, quick and runs good lines.

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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rj1986 said:
Thread revival - with the commonwealth games 7's now over but becoming an olympic sport, and scotland having 2 full time 15 players in the squad, do you think any current england union or league players could be in with a good shout at getting a medal?

Eastmond could do really well at 7's, strong, quick and runs good lines.
I doubt England will go that way, the 7's squad is trained by a wholly different team. But isn't it going to be a GB team not an England team? That might open up the selection to a wider range of players...?

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Stating the obvious but 7's is a very different game for XV's. I'm not sure how dropping in a few 'mercs' would alter many teams chances, unless perhaps they were involved in for at least a good couple of rounds of the circuit. I remember Steffon Armitage popping up few seasons back.

If I was a 7's player I'd also be pretty hacked off if I lost my place to someone who appeared just appeared for the Olympics.

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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For similar reasons. I'd expect the England team to represent GB in Rio.

A scratch team would have little chance with no time to work on patterns of play.

rj1986

1,107 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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IIRC, Tait played in the last CW games, whilst he was at Newcastle Falcons, so some players do play both at the same time

Agreed that it's completely different game and for all intensive purposes, a different sport, but would love to see players like Croft, Brown, Zebo, Cuthbert and North line up along side the regular 7's team for Team GB in Rio

I wonder if there will be any restrictions like the football team had at 2012.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I'm surprised that Varndell never went to 7's - it would appear his outright pace would be a major asset there. Would Wade be another reasonable choice?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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I would try and keep the core of a squad together. A well drilled 7s squad will beat a bunch of superstars brought together for one tournament.

Also, these guys churn away for the home nations 7s all season, I wouldn't want to piss on their chips by giving the shirts for the big show to a bunch of star names bought in for 'wow' factor.

Interesting question: Ireland. Where do the northern Irish lads play? Ireland (as if it were 15s) or for Team GB/NI?

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Who's going to watch the Women's World Cup on Sky?

I'm always impressed by the commitment and skills in women's Rugby, I think it should be supported.

prand

5,916 posts

196 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I don't have Sky - will there be some coverage on ITV3 or somesuch to catch the highlights?

I could watch any game of rugby in any format, and the standards and popularity of women's rugby is definitely improving. I'm more than happy to cheer on England too, particularly as they have a good chance in this tournament.


Mr Snap

2,364 posts

157 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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prand said:
I don't have Sky - will there be some coverage on ITV3 or somesuch to catch the highlights?

I could watch any game of rugby in any format, and the standards and popularity of women's rugby is definitely improving. I'm more than happy to cheer on England too, particularly as they have a good chance in this tournament.
There are free live view options on't'internet - often low res vid with foreign language commentary but fine to watch on a small screen.

Not that I would ever dream of avoiding paying for Sky.

Otherwise, you might try your local lesbian bar...

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Anyone watching opening game of the rugby championship All Black's vs the Aussies? Domestically the Aussie players were very good, NZ are one win away from a world record winning streak.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Yup, pretty even so far. Aussies looking good so far, much better than last year.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Yup, pretty even so far. Aussies looking good so far, much better than last year.
NZ look the more settled side so far IMO. Few strange selection choices for the Aussies too with Beale at 10. They've a few 10's on the pitch actually.

They're much improved since the Lions tour.

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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a311 said:
NZ look the more settled side so far IMO. Few strange selection choices for the Aussies too with Beale at 10. They've a few 10's on the pitch actually.

They're much improved since the Lions tour.
Beale is making mistakes, lots of them. NZ certainly settled.

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
Beale is making mistakes, lots of them. NZ certainly settled.
Been all the Aussies this half, not putting their chances away though. They haven't picked any wingers either which isn't helping.

Not the conditions for attacking/running rugby but surprised at the lack of attacking threat from the AB's.