Summer Rugby Union Internationals
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Tuilagi doesn't have the skill set to be a winger but there's plenty of successful wingers out there past and present that don't either. Savea being back is good news for the AB's his try scoring record is impressive. I thought May had a good game last week, better than Yarde by a stretch but him looking like a rabbit caught in the headlights at times scares me a bit if the pressure is on. He certainly didn't deserve to drop out of the match day 23 if that's the case.
Parling had a very good game last week, but after this years 6N Lawes proved he can run the lineout and brings allot more for me around the field. He will make much more of an impact sub than Parling would though, who for me as much as he's been a very consistent performer for England is a bit light weight. I think we can really take it to their pack on Saturday and having Lawes on would have made that an easier job.
Twelvetrees needs to play out of his skin, I'm still to be convinced he's international class.
Let Wilson do his job in the scrum and otherwise keep the ball away from him when in possession..... That bench is unbelievable though. It's going to be a huge game.
Parling had a very good game last week, but after this years 6N Lawes proved he can run the lineout and brings allot more for me around the field. He will make much more of an impact sub than Parling would though, who for me as much as he's been a very consistent performer for England is a bit light weight. I think we can really take it to their pack on Saturday and having Lawes on would have made that an easier job.
Twelvetrees needs to play out of his skin, I'm still to be convinced he's international class.
Let Wilson do his job in the scrum and otherwise keep the ball away from him when in possession..... That bench is unbelievable though. It's going to be a huge game.
No surprises in the Welsh Team really. Good to see Matthew Morgan making the bench though...
Wales: Liam Williams, Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North, Dan Biggar, Mike Phillips, Gethin Jenkins, Ken Owens, Adam Jones, Luke Charteris, Alun Wyn Jones (captain), Dan Lydiate, Aaron Shingler, Taulupe Faletau.
Replacements: Matthew Rees, Paul James, Samson Lee, Ian Evans, Josh Turnbull, Gareth Davies, James Hook, Matthew Morgan.
Wales: Liam Williams, Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North, Dan Biggar, Mike Phillips, Gethin Jenkins, Ken Owens, Adam Jones, Luke Charteris, Alun Wyn Jones (captain), Dan Lydiate, Aaron Shingler, Taulupe Faletau.
Replacements: Matthew Rees, Paul James, Samson Lee, Ian Evans, Josh Turnbull, Gareth Davies, James Hook, Matthew Morgan.
Parling, light weight? He may not be as showy as Lawes but he's very effective. He made 11 tackles - the same as Launchbury - with only Morgan beating him at 12.
As for his ability around the field, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onPi60021Jg
Using Lawes as an impact player, after Parling has ground them down for 60/70mins, makes a lot of sense.
As for his ability around the field, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onPi60021Jg
Using Lawes as an impact player, after Parling has ground them down for 60/70mins, makes a lot of sense.
a311 said:
Tuilagi doesn't have the skill set to be a winger but there's plenty of successful wingers out there past and present that don't either.
MT makes plenty of breaks from centre, both on hos own and running the lines to get offloads. I have a feeling we will be seeing it as inside centre, outside centre, even more outside centre - running the line, and popping up inside the 12-13 channel rather than be an out-and-out winger role, with Farrel dropping back to cover the kick return with Brown and Morgan.Edited by rj1986 on Thursday 12th June 13:04
Mr Snap said:
Parling, light weight? He may not be as showy as Lawes but he's very effective. He made 11 tackles - the same as Launchbury - with only Morgan beating him at 12.
As for his ability around the field, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onPi60021Jg
Using Lawes as an impact player, after Parling has ground them down for 60/70mins, makes a lot of sense.
So you'd pick Parling over Lawes on current form? Not me. As for light weight he's not got the level of physicality that Lawes brings IMO and is, well a bit lighter too.As for his ability around the field, remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onPi60021Jg
Using Lawes as an impact player, after Parling has ground them down for 60/70mins, makes a lot of sense.
a311 said:
So you'd pick Parling over Lawes on current form? Not me. As for light weight he's not got the level of physicality that Lawes brings IMO and is, well a bit lighter too.
Yes, Parling isn't an impact player, he grinds opponents down. With that done, you bring on Lawes who should have a big impact... Mr Snap said:
Yes, Parling isn't an impact player, he grinds opponents down. With that done, you bring on Lawes who should have a big impact...
Reading the Times article today about the selection, you can see Lancaster has a game plan how he uses the 23, driven by England's inability to score, and thus the ability to lose matches in the last quarter of games (last 2 NZ and the 6N France games perfect examples). From 55 minutes bring on Lawes, Hartley and Vunipola, plus front rowers, and any impact runners (Ashton, Burns, hmm) who are anything but "reserves" to subdue the opposition and push, drag & kick England over the line.prand said:
Mr Snap said:
Yes, Parling isn't an impact player, he grinds opponents down. With that done, you bring on Lawes who should have a big impact...
Reading the Times article today about the selection, you can see Lancaster has a game plan how he uses the 23, driven by England's inability to score, and thus the ability to lose matches in the last quarter of games (last 2 NZ and the 6N France games perfect examples). From 55 minutes bring on Lawes, Hartley and Vunipola, plus front rowers, and any impact runners (Ashton, Burns, hmm) who are anything but "reserves" to subdue the opposition and push, drag & kick England over the line.Mr Snap said:
prand said:
Mr Snap said:
Yes, Parling isn't an impact player, he grinds opponents down. With that done, you bring on Lawes who should have a big impact...
Reading the Times article today about the selection, you can see Lancaster has a game plan how he uses the 23, driven by England's inability to score, and thus the ability to lose matches in the last quarter of games (last 2 NZ and the 6N France games perfect examples). From 55 minutes bring on Lawes, Hartley and Vunipola, plus front rowers, and any impact runners (Ashton, Burns, hmm) who are anything but "reserves" to subdue the opposition and push, drag & kick England over the line.Mr Snap said:
Ok.
Yep I was, pointing out an article that agreed! I think what's interesting now is that formerly first choice players in this instance are being used as the cavalry, showing that Lancaster can afford to experiment with the players at his disposal, and give the less experienced valuable game time too. Interestingly, his gambles often seem to pay off.I'm not anti Parling, I just think this season Lawes had finally shown the step up to International class and had the makings of long partnership with Launchbury given their ages so was a bit disappointed he hadn't made the starting XV. He was immense in the premiership final too.
I would agree that he's the potential to make more of an impact than Parling from the bench, but I don't see him as a flashy player, tackles hard and carries well, like most world class locks allot of the good stuff they do goes unseen.
I would agree that he's the potential to make more of an impact than Parling from the bench, but I don't see him as a flashy player, tackles hard and carries well, like most world class locks allot of the good stuff they do goes unseen.
a311 said:
It was bit of daft time last weekend 0835 GMT
Same this time round too as well as the last test and Midweek game against the Crusaders.
Not sure what time you would like it - a lunchtime/afternoon would be middle of the night in NZ. At least this is on at a time when most people are getting up and are awake.Same this time round too as well as the last test and Midweek game against the Crusaders.
prand said:
a311 said:
It was bit of daft time last weekend 0835 GMT
Same this time round too as well as the last test and Midweek game against the Crusaders.
Not sure what time you would like it - a lunchtime/afternoon would be middle of the night in NZ. At least this is on at a time when most people are getting up and are awake.Same this time round too as well as the last test and Midweek game against the Crusaders.
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