Cricket: 2014 India tour of England, 9th July-7th September
Discussion
Gargamel said:
Another s
t decision.
Very unlucky there. I have no idea why an agreement can't be found for the right use of technology in Cricket, but when you see decisions like that....
Why don't India want DRS? t decision. Very unlucky there. I have no idea why an agreement can't be found for the right use of technology in Cricket, but when you see decisions like that....
I know they were a bit crap at using it when they have, no system is fool proof which is what they seem to want.
NormalWisdom said:
I think it evens itself out in the long run - Bell should have gone first ball...............
I love this argument, except why should Ballance be denied a chance a double ton, or a record score, because of a shocking decision. Bell maybe should have gone first ball, but now he has fifty runs that DRS could easily have corrected. It has an impact on the game which we can easily avoid.
Alternatively if this was the last day of the match, in tight series and we were battling to win, draw or lose - then it could be the match decider, and why should that be allowed - no chance left to even it up.
I accept the India position that DRS isn't perfect. Agreed, but it does kill off a number of "howlers" of decision, which is what it was designed for. I agree that predicting trajectory and turn isn't its best usage, but Hotspot and Snicko are pretty accurate, as indeed are the simple TV replay for some of the worst decision.
Gargamel said:
NormalWisdom said:
I think it evens itself out in the long run - Bell should have gone first ball...............
I love this argument, except why should Ballance be denied a chance a double ton, or a record score, because of a shocking decision. Bell maybe should have gone first ball, but now he has fifty runs that DRS could easily have corrected. It has an impact on the game which we can easily avoid.
Alternatively if this was the last day of the match, in tight series and we were battling to win, draw or lose - then it could be the match decider, and why should that be allowed - no chance left to even it up.
I accept the India position that DRS isn't perfect. Agreed, but it does kill off a number of "howlers" of decision, which is what it was designed for. I agree that predicting trajectory and turn isn't its best usage, but Hotspot and Snicko are pretty accurate, as indeed are the simple TV replay for some of the worst decision.
NormalWisdom said:
Believe my, I agree with you (& DRS) 100%. The even-out argument is incredibly weak (it's the an elephant as opposed to butterfly effect if you get my drift!), It's a case of what "might have happened" versus just getting it right in the first place (DRS)
I just get annoyed, because we can fix this stuff. Anyway 384/4 looks OK
Bell brings up his ton with a six.
The score moves on to 418 / 4 and all is well with the world. Even my VAT return is nearly sorted so I'll have to go back to some real work.
When to declare? 45 overs left today. Crack on lads, Buttler come in for a quick thwack after tea? Bat til lunch tomorrow and look for the follow on?
How best to grind them into the dirt?
The score moves on to 418 / 4 and all is well with the world. Even my VAT return is nearly sorted so I'll have to go back to some real work.
When to declare? 45 overs left today. Crack on lads, Buttler come in for a quick thwack after tea? Bat til lunch tomorrow and look for the follow on?
How best to grind them into the dirt?
a311 said:
Why don't India want DRS?
1. India took part in the first trial of DRS which was a bit of a disaster. Instead of using the hawk-eye system a less advanced system from a rival supplier was used and it did not perform well.2. It was rumoured that Tendulkar didn't like it so the BCCI rejected it while he was still playing.
3. Now Tendulkar has retired, it is thought that the opposition to DRS comes from a member of the BCCI management - the players and coaches are happy to use it but are not giving any say in the matter.
ralphrj said:
1. India took part in the first trial of DRS which was a bit of a disaster. Instead of using the hawk-eye system a less advanced system from a rival supplier was used and it did not perform well.
2. It was rumoured that Tendulkar didn't like it so the BCCI rejected it while he was still playing.
3. Now Tendulkar has retired, it is thought that the opposition to DRS comes from a member of the BCCI management - the players and coaches are happy to use it but are not giving any say in the matter.
Cheers for that.2. It was rumoured that Tendulkar didn't like it so the BCCI rejected it while he was still playing.
3. Now Tendulkar has retired, it is thought that the opposition to DRS comes from a member of the BCCI management - the players and coaches are happy to use it but are not giving any say in the matter.
spikeyhead said:
Let's crack on after tea.
A small part of me thinks we should bat til lunch tomorrow and then enforce the follow on, but I don't think our bowlers are fresh enough for that to work.
I would rather hit out as much as we can now, pile on the runs and put them in for 10-15 overs tonight if we can. I don't see the point of batting into tomorrow. A small part of me thinks we should bat til lunch tomorrow and then enforce the follow on, but I don't think our bowlers are fresh enough for that to work.
Dont forget we are 1-0 down in the series, India have shown they can bat, and our bowlers have shown they are not hitting form and with unknowns Jordan and Woakes could be a tough ask to get 20 wickets. India's bowlers have struggled for the past 2 days so what makes us think ours will rip through the Indian top order?
We need a win and have scoreboard pressure. Why not take a risk and bowl tonight?
What is this crap about not batting till lunch tomorrow and England NEED to win this test for the series?
Newsflash...no they don't. What they DO need to do is ensure confidence in themselves.
Cook...job started.
Bell...job done.
Balance...job done.
Jos the Boss...job done for debutant.
Now Woakes.
You don't win a series in one test. You never have done. What you can do though is absolutely brutalise an opposition attack. Right now England need to relearn the habit of kicking the crap out of a bowling attack.
Jimmy takes wickets. Broad takes wickets. Jordan looks like he can as well.
Put 600 on against this lot but even better put on 700 and give the new batting boys a positive intro to Test cricket. The first job of any skipper isn't to win, its to not lose.
I yearn for the day an England captain look at an opposition attack and decides he will ensure one of them is ruined. I want to see opposition bowlers forced out of contention by injury from bowling too much. I want to see them mentally fked.
I want to see an England captain who is a complete and utter. A combination of Jardine and Border.
Newsflash...no they don't. What they DO need to do is ensure confidence in themselves.
Cook...job started.
Bell...job done.
Balance...job done.
Jos the Boss...job done for debutant.
Now Woakes.
You don't win a series in one test. You never have done. What you can do though is absolutely brutalise an opposition attack. Right now England need to relearn the habit of kicking the crap out of a bowling attack.
Jimmy takes wickets. Broad takes wickets. Jordan looks like he can as well.
Put 600 on against this lot but even better put on 700 and give the new batting boys a positive intro to Test cricket. The first job of any skipper isn't to win, its to not lose.
I yearn for the day an England captain look at an opposition attack and decides he will ensure one of them is ruined. I want to see opposition bowlers forced out of contention by injury from bowling too much. I want to see them mentally f
ked.I want to see an England captain who is a complete and utter
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