Cricket: 2014 India tour of England, 9th July-7th September

Cricket: 2014 India tour of England, 9th July-7th September

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a311

5,806 posts

178 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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graphene said:
Does every player have to be picked on the basis that they could in in the side for 4+ years? Perhaps they used this reasoning amongst the cons for keeping KP, so have backed themselves in to corner with it?
No I don't anyhow, Test cricket is hard to draw comparisons with other sports, the Ashes is our WC but comes in shorter cycles so I'd pick the side with the best chance of winning an ashes series. Many good players also don't seem to be able to cut it at test level.

The backbone of a very good side is there at the moment. Opener, two bowling positions and whether Ali continues to prove he can be our front line spinner are the areas of concern for me.

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Have the pigeons been crapping on Cook? a black cat interface? perhaps he trod in somethig on the way to the ground?

I'd certainly let him pick my lottery numbers.


RichB

51,597 posts

285 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Well he's gone now... hehe

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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RichB said:
Well he's gone now... hehe
Followed by a few others. The ball is still doing plenty. We need at least one more decent partnership.

Elsewhere, Monty has picked up five wickets, good to hear he's performing again.

FiF

44,115 posts

252 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Another hundred runs by stumps tonight and India are buried.

Clearly it's not that easy batting out there.

But agreee hope Rooty and Buttler can put a few more on without too many scares and take a fair bit off the new ball.

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Root is really becoming the teams Mr reliable, He is better technically than Collingwood, but seems to have a similar grittiness about him.

Great knock today and nice to see us going at more than four an over...

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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India's bowlers look worn out. Robson's test career needs putting on hold for a while.

Good knocks from Root, Buttler, Balance and Cook. Woakes was unfortunate to get such a thin edge down the leg side, but his and Jordan's bowling showed some good signs and hopefully they'll continue to improve.

Tomorrow, batting practice for Root and Jordan, followed by Broad regaining his confidence against the short ball.

The biggest disappointment of the day for me was at 3:45 when I discovered I'd run out of cake. That spoilt the tea interval

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

196 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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spikeyhead said:
The biggest disappointment of the day for me was at 3:45 when I discovered I'd run out of cake. That spoilt the tea interval
Poor field management from cook?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Getting a touch confused by Moeen.

At Worcestershire he has always been a batsman who can twirl it a bit (and only a bit, at that).

For England he seems to be a respectable spin bowler, who is struggling with his batting.

Most peculiar. His bowling has improved, but I think he needs to spend some time on, what until now, has been the bread and butter of his trade.

a311

5,806 posts

178 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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The good thing to see is the wickets and runs are being shared around the team. Ali being second in the wickets standing will no doubt ensure he's kept around but would be nice to see him get some runs.

Finn would have been deadly on that wicket.

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Vocal Minority said:
Getting a touch confused by Moeen.

At Worcestershire he has always been a batsman who can twirl it a bit (and only a bit, at that).

For England he seems to be a respectable spin bowler, who is struggling with his batting.

Most peculiar. His bowling has improved, but I think he needs to spend some time on, what until now, has been the bread and butter of his trade.
I suspect that most of his time in the nets has been with the ball in hand. He's been getting out in daft ways which should be easily correctable. He's certainly done enough to be in the team to the WIndies in the spring.

It's a bit premature but I'd take

Cook
Bairstow
Hales
Balance
Bell
Rooooooooooooot
Moeen
Buttler
Jordan
Woakes
Finn
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Don't get too carried away, it's only India.
Possibly the most abject batting displays in the last four innings I have seen.
And don't get me started on the fielding………

Erudite geezer

576 posts

122 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Seventy said:
Don't get too carried away, it's only India.
Possibly the most abject batting displays in the last four innings I have seen.
And don't get me started on the fielding………
Indeed. India have been a complete shambles since the Lords win.

bigunit00

890 posts

148 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Erudite geezer said:
Indeed. India have been a complete shambles since the Lords win.
How the hell did Binny get another game?

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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bigunit00 said:
Erudite geezer said:
Indeed. India have been a complete shambles since the Lords win.
How the hell did Binny get another game?
My mother could play his bowling wit stick o rhubarb.

I'm well aware that the Indians have been crap since Lords, however you can only play the team in front of you and since Lords we've done that well. The WIndies in the sunshine next spring will be a step up before the Ashes and I have some good confidence that we can continue to improve. It's a young squad with some decent talent in it that will continue to grow.

FiF

44,115 posts

252 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Cricket has a significant mental element to it, part of the mental aspect is belief in oneself and the team. It has to be backed up by technical ability and form.

I'd argue that England, prior to the winter Ashes tour, had too much of the former, i.e. self belief, theoretically enough of the second, ability, but not enough of the last, form.

They were rapidly put into a mental state from which there was no coming back for that team on that tour, possibly ever. Which is where India are now, but perhaps not as bad as England in Oz.

England are possibly at the beginning of a long hard climb, which started after Lords this series.


spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Broad hasn't lost any batting confidence.

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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They should declare now. Root's got his hundred. They'll bowl them out by tea and be home by supper.

spikeyhead

17,335 posts

198 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Seventy said:
They should declare now. Root's got his hundred. They'll bowl them out by tea and be home by supper.
We've got our boot on their throat, we shouldn't take it off.

FiF

44,115 posts

252 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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spikeyhead said:
Seventy said:
They should declare now. Root's got his hundred. They'll bowl them out by tea and be home by supper.
We've got our boot on their throat, we shouldn't take it off.
This ^^^. Even though as Vaughan just said "carnage out there. "