A fishing rod question

A fishing rod question

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KemP

492 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
Good stuff. Braid didn't fare too well there at all I notice.
Depends on the application.

A lot of my fishing is soft lures, hard lures and jigging. I use about 2 meters of flurocarbon at the bottom end and braid the rest of the way.

Braid lets me feel what is happening with the lure and I can tell when the lure is on the bottom and what the bottom is had up of. Also I can load a small reel with a lot of line with a higher strength. I get much better feedback than mono.


I dont think id use braid for float fishing down the canal smile

slow_poke

1,855 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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KemP said:
The TLD 15 i have,.....Its not the braid I am worried about snapping its the hook pulling out or the rod snapping....
Ermmmmmm. Want me to annoy and worry you?

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
Good stuff. Braid didn't fare too well there at all I notice.
Mono would be my choice - the amount of stretch gives a good safety net, its cheap to replace and it doesn't tangle anywhere near as much as braid.

Some good strong mono with a good length of Kryston Quicksilver as a snag leader would be my go to choice.


KemP

492 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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slow_poke said:
Ermmmmmm. Want me to annoy and worry you?
Please do. I'm always whiling to get advice from others

slow_poke

1,855 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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KemP said:
slow_poke said:
Ermmmmmm. Want me to annoy and worry you?
Please do. I'm always whiling to get advice from others
http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfishing-charters-forum/265215-shimano-tld-15-a.html#b

Surprised the hec out of me too. I've got delightful little TLD 5 & 10s and I hope its not a common across the range issue. Appaernly, 20 & 25s aren't affected.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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KemP said:
Depends on the application.

A lot of my fishing is soft lures, hard lures and jigging. I use about 2 meters of flurocarbon at the bottom end and braid the rest of the way.
Shhh, you'll have the pike police on you biggrin

KemP said:
Braid lets me feel what is happening with the lure and I can tell when the lure is on the bottom and what the bottom is had up of. Also I can load a small reel with a lot of line with a higher strength. I get much better feedback than mono.


I dont think id use braid for float fishing down the canal smile
I've used it for trotting. It works very nicely if you get one that floats, lifts off a lot more cleanly. Just hate the noise it makes through the rings.

blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
Mono would be my choice - the amount of stretch gives a good safety net, its cheap to replace and it doesn't tangle anywhere near as much as braid.

Some good strong mono with a good length of Kryston Quicksilver as a snag leader would be my go to choice.
Ive never used anything but mono before, but in this instance I need too much strong line so would need an absolutely massive reel for mono.

KemP

492 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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slow_poke said:
http://www.thehulltruth.com/sportfishing-charters-...

Surprised the hec out of me too. I've got delightful little TLD 5 & 10s and I hope its not a common across the range issue. Appaernly, 20 & 25s aren't affected.
I have upgraded mine with the carbon washer and read Alan's thread before tuning the reel smile thank you for the heads up

KemP

492 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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otolith said:
KemP said:
Depends on the application.

A lot of my fishing is soft lures, hard lures and jigging. I use about 2 meters of flurocarbon at the bottom end and braid the rest of the way.
Shhh, you'll have the pike police on you biggrin

KemP said:
Braid lets me feel what is happening with the lure and I can tell when the lure is on the bottom and what the bottom is had up of. Also I can load a small reel with a lot of line with a higher strength. I get much better feedback than mono.


I dont think id use braid for float fishing down the canal smile
I've used it for trotting. It works very nicely if you get one that floats, lifts off a lot more cleanly. Just hate the noise it makes through the rings.
hahah if I go pike fishing I do use a trace but its not that often. I do a lot of saltwater fishing. yes the noise through the rings is horrible frown I think savage gear have some rods just for braid and you dont get the sound.

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Yeah, must be the eyes, my dropshot and vertical jigging rods don't do it, but my match rod is horrible with braid.

I'm happy using FC leaders for perch if I'm on barbless singles and don't expect more than the occasional pike - I've been bitten off more times on popped up fake maggots than lures! Some people get a bit fundamentalist about it though.

blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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otolith said:
-I've been bitten off more times on popped up fake maggots than lures! .
Not a phrase you hear every day


otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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hehe

slow_poke

1,855 posts

234 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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KemP said:
hahah if I go pike fishing I do use a trace but its not that often. I do a lot of saltwater fishing. yes the noise through the rings is horrible frown I think savage gear have some rods just for braid and you dont get the sound.
SG yeah, and MajorCraft, also Tenryu if you're feeling flush.

Tenryu - love 'em.

leglessAlex

5,447 posts

141 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
On my fixed spool reels (Diawa Entohs) I can lock the clutch down completely - I have pulled for a break on 22lb test line before now and it's parted without the clutch paying any line out.
Due to the design differences, this is an advantage fixed spools have over multipliers. The clutch can often be for all intents and purposes totally locked, you're talking about 50lbs of drag.

Of course, the really expensive big game multis can do this too but then you're talking about the likes of the Avet EX series which are $500 per reel.

If money was no object I'd be suggesting some heavy duty saltwater fixed spools like the Daiwa Saltiga, Shimano Stella or even Van Staals.

blindswelledrat

Original Poster:

25,257 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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It is quite embarrassing how, aged 40, I still bow to peer pressure.
THis thread has forever ruined my ability to fish at a modest cost. This is how it happened (Ive plumped for heavy carp gear rather than uptide rods):

blindswelledrat said:
. Given that I want 3 of everything and it may be the only time I use this set up, then I'm on a budget.
youlot said:
Just have a little look at this nicer stuff
blindswelledrat said:
SLowpoke/Legless.

Looked into those Avet reels and I am absolutely not going to spend £600 on 3 reels.
I realise it makes sense to buy good and sell it, but I know myself too well and in 40 years I have never sold anything I have bought with this in mind and I know I wont do it this time. My shed and loft just fill up with single use expensive items and this trip is already expensive.
youlot said:
Have a look how shiny and nice the better stuff is. Are you really that poor and disgusting?
blindswelledrat said:
I'm honestly not sure I agree with you there (although admittedly I have zero experience of multipliers beyond big game ones on charter boats)
from the course fishing I have done I have always said that expensive fishing tackle is the worst thing in the world for diminishing returns. I have dozens of rods and reels of all prices and I cannot imagine a situation where a cheap rod and reel would lose me a fish.
youlot said:
You must be gay or something. Frightened of decent stuff. You tiny, scared little girl
SO in order to remain cool I have bought 3 Century 3.5lbs carp rods (fatboy slim) and in the post are 3 Daiwa Tournament Entohs which I am very excited about.

THe rods are things of great beauty and I know I cannot possibly ever sell them and I think the reels will be the same. THis will be an expensive thread for me I think.

blindswelledrat

Original Poster:

25,257 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
On my fixed spool reels (Diawa Entohs)
It was YOU!!!!!
I couldn't remember who had got me looking at those things, you hateful man

otolith

56,091 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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laugh

Fatal!

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
Mr Gearchange said:
On my fixed spool reels (Diawa Entohs)
It was YOU!!!!!
I couldn't remember who had got me looking at those things, you hateful man
I've just swapped them for Daiwa Basias - so the Entohs are now the reels for my marker and spod rod (don't look at the Basias)

Also I recently invested in a set of 3, custom built Free Spirit Hi-S's in 3.5lb TC.
You should get some of those as well - they are only about £1700 so clearly chump change.

If my wife is reading, this is just bravado and the whole set were £150 just like I told you.

blindswelledrat

Original Poster:

25,257 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Mr Gearchange said:
(don't look at the Basias)
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I already did and came close. Beautiful things. Fortunately the line capacity was marginal so it saved me having to wring my hands.

On the rest of your comment about the wife, I heard a nice phrase from a cyclist the other day which is applicable:

'My biggest fear is dying and my wife selling my gear for what I told her I had paid for it'

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

206 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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My wife also believes all my bikes were 500 quid!
She tells me her designer clothes came from the market - it's an tacit agreement we have.

Line capacity won't be marginal if you are on braid - anyway, you aren't really going to need massive line capacity for this expedition are you? Your not going to be fishing at huge depths or casting massive distances?