6 Nations 2015
Discussion
ellroy said:
God fun to watch that.
However, the ref was a bloody joke. One of the worst displays I've witnessed for a very long time.
The Scots possibly should have won that. Although Wales did, I'd be very worried about that performance following last week if I was Welsh.
Partly agree. However, the ref was a bloody joke. One of the worst displays I've witnessed for a very long time.
The Scots possibly should have won that. Although Wales did, I'd be very worried about that performance following last week if I was Welsh.
Wales should have destroyed Scotland
ellroy said:
God fun to watch that.
However, the ref was a bloody joke. One of the worst displays I've witnessed for a very long time.
The Scots possibly should have won that. Although Wales did, I'd be very worried about that performance following last week if I was Welsh.
Agreed. Ref was a bit crap - specially the last 20 minutes.However, the ref was a bloody joke. One of the worst displays I've witnessed for a very long time.
The Scots possibly should have won that. Although Wales did, I'd be very worried about that performance following last week if I was Welsh.
Only got in for the last quarter. Scotland butchered a draw and possibly a win. Poor discipline, poor decision making, poor execution. Tons of effort, but not sufficiently focused.
Ref was all over the shop though.
Garland and Wales must be concerned right now, both for the 6N and the RWC. They don't look the same side they have been in recent years and that's not where they need to be in the RWC pool o' death.
Ref was all over the shop though.
Garland and Wales must be concerned right now, both for the 6N and the RWC. They don't look the same side they have been in recent years and that's not where they need to be in the RWC pool o' death.
Greg66 said:
Only got in for the last quarter. Scotland butchered a draw and possibly a win. Poor discipline, poor decision making, poor execution. Tons of effort, but not sufficiently focused.
Ref was all over the shop though.
Garland and Wales must be concerned right now, both for the 6N and the RWC. They don't look the same side they have been in recent years and that's not where they need to be in the RWC pool o' death.
I think if you saw the whole match you might modify your opinion somewhat. Ref was all over the shop though.
Garland and Wales must be concerned right now, both for the 6N and the RWC. They don't look the same side they have been in recent years and that's not where they need to be in the RWC pool o' death.
The Scots were exhausted. It was a very taxing match for them. They had to work harder for each yard I thought.
Their application was just about the best I've seen with them. They lack the skill of the Welsh - that's taken overall - and they had to make up for it with effort.
I felt that the Welsh could have walked it with the same amount of effort as the Scots. Still, it is the win that counts. It was good to see one of the wooden spoon teams improving.
Part of the problem with Wales is that the team picks itself. There's no strength in dept, at least compared to England, and their play is becoming predictable as so easier to counter. England played to a tight game plan against them I thought which negated their strengths. England has the other problem: when players recover there's a choice of whether they play or we keep with a winning side. We are, perhaps, not at our strongest all through but we brought on a player who handn't been in the shirt since 2008 and he scored a try within 2 mins.
Whether we're good enough for the RWC at the moment is another subject of course, but we're playing to plan, playing well, and had a lot on hand against both Wales and Italy. Two big tests to come. It should be exciting.
Kermit power said:
He seems to be seeing something in the Welsh pack that I don't think anyone else is seeing, with four of them - Jarvis, Wyn Jones, Warburton and Lydiate - in his starting lineup! 
That's bizarre.My theory is Jarvis rated highly not because he was good, but because he wasn't the absolute garbage we all thought he'd be. I'd agree with AWJ (if not his MOTM award), Warburton is surprising and Lydiate is a shocker as I thought he was really poor.
For me Gethin was MOTM for his performance in the loose, he was everywhere, winning penalties and turnovers. Maybe the fact he got pinged at scrumtime counted against him.
Derek Smith said:
Whether we're good enough for the RWC at the moment is another subject of course, but we're playing to plan, playing well, and had a lot on hand against both Wales and Italy. Two big tests to come. It should be exciting.
"just" had the vision to see something could be on and then did the basics and supported well - the fact that he still has some gas didn't hurt matters. Well done CipsDerek Smith said:
Now that was a fascinating half. Well played Scotland.
The only black mark is Jonathan Davies' commentary. Why do they pick him?
As a neutral, great fun to watch.
The thing is a cant stand Eddie Butler myself. JR has more of an understanding of the game where Eddie is all pomp, catchphrases and little content. It doesn't help that you would be watching Patagonia B team v a team of Eskimos and Butler would still be banging on about England.The only black mark is Jonathan Davies' commentary. Why do they pick him?
As a neutral, great fun to watch.
I'll never forget 'England what have you done! Wales what are you doing!' though.
A commentary masterclass fromWaldorf and Statler Butler and Moore.
A commentary masterclass from
Edited by hornetrider on Monday 16th February 12:52
hornetrider said:
Art0ir said:
Heaslip has a suspected broken vertebrae after the knee incident.
Has the other guy been cited? Shocker that one.Art0ir said:
Heaslip has a suspected broken vertebrae after the knee incident.
I was rather surprised when I heard that on the BBC news this morning. My prediction is that it won't be broken! Swelling and minor soft tissue but he will make a tremendous recovery and play against England. Call me a cynic? Notwithstanding my cynicism above, I cannot see the blow being that hard to break anything.
Pape should be summarily banned though. Bang out of order! Problem is that there may be some doubt on the panel when they hear the case....
Slaav said:
Art0ir said:
Heaslip has a suspected broken vertebrae after the knee incident.
I was rather surprised when I heard that on the BBC news this morning. My prediction is that it won't be broken! Swelling and minor soft tissue but he will make a tremendous recovery and play against England. Call me a cynic? Notwithstanding my cynicism above, I cannot see the blow being that hard to break anything.
Pape should be summarily banned though. Bang out of order! Problem is that there may be some doubt on the panel when they hear the case....
I think the citing is only restricted if the card awarded by the ref is a red.
I've been involved in a citing, defending, where there was a video of the match and it showed that the yellow, for stamping on an ankle, was unjustified as it was their own player who injured the chap.
In any case, a citing where the referee has yellow carded or otherwise penalised the player must, in essence, prove that the referee was wrong in his decision. This is not something that sits well with the RFU.
The slow motion video shows, I would suggest, that there were two moves of the left leg. I'm not sure how anyone can believe it was not deliberate. If the ref says that he didn't see the whole incident and thought it accidental then I could see it succeeding.
The move was out of order, even if it was accidental.
Slaav said:
Art0ir said:
Heaslip has a suspected broken vertebrae after the knee incident.
I was rather surprised when I heard that on the BBC news this morning. My prediction is that it won't be broken! Swelling and minor soft tissue but he will make a tremendous recovery and play against England. Call me a cynic? dai1983 said:
The thing is a cant stand Eddie Butler myself. JR has more of an understanding of the game where Eddie is all pomp, catchphrases and little content. It doesn't help that you would be watching Patagonia B team v a team of Eskimos and Butler would still be banging on about England.
You do realise that Eddie Butler is welsh, with 16 caps don't you?!http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Butler_(rugby...
Plus he does a mean montage voiceover!
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