6 Nations 2015

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Kermit power

28,643 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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a311 said:
Good, although I'd never wish injury on any player his form hasn't been great. I've said it before, on form he's a good if limited player. I expect Myler and Cips will battle it out for the bench position? I'd like to see Young Slade from Exeter get some time in the senior squad he can play in the centres but long term probably a 10.

I expect in Lancaster's mind Myler might just be above Cipriani as he's more in the Farrell mould i.e. dependable place kicker if somewhat limited in other areas. I've not seen the kicking stats for this season but suspect Cips is poorer than the rest in this respect.

Injuries are stacking up but strength in depth has at times been a blessing and a curse and in this case welcome.
Cipriani has averaged 7.4 points per game in his Premiership career. Farrell has averaged 9.9, Ford 9.6 and Myler 8.2.

Given the average performances of the clubs they've been playing for over their careers, I can't help thinking that in a like for like England team, I might be inclined to back Cipriani...


Fleckers

2,860 posts

201 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Farrell has not been 100% this season, even when playing for Sarries [who I support]

I hope its not major outage, but I do hope Ford gets a shout

not sure why Ashdon did not get picked, his game especially in defence this season has been very good at club level

armitage is in France so IMHO he chose to go there and knew the rules so think its right he stays there or comes back to an English club

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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AJ what a great test career - I remember years ago Fra v Wal last few mins Wales just ahead on the 5 meter line the whole time and AJ essentially ensured Wales won that game (and oIRC that went on to be our first GS since the 70's).

A shame he didn't hit the magic 100 - but if Father Time meant he was no longer first choice then that is that no one should be simply gifted a centurion its earned and he earned 95 exceptional caps which is monumental in its own right.



DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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How many props have hit the ton?

Castro?
Heyman?
Big Jase?

Cant be too many surely?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Gethin.

Adam has 95 and 5 Lions, making a century of sorts.

Kermit power

28,643 posts

213 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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DJRC said:
How many props have hit the ton?

Castro?
Heyman?
Big Jase?

Cant be too many surely?
Leonard on 119 including 5 Lions caps
Jenkins on 115
Tony Woodcock and Castro on 110 and 107 respectively, and both still playing.
John Hayes 107
Andrea Lo Cicero 103

Assuming you meant Carl Hayman, he was a positive lightweight by comparison on 45! hehe

DJRC

23,563 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Kermy...I knew I should gone for the other side of the Kiwi scrum smile Lo Cic I should have got, both him and Castro have been around forever it seems!

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Welshbeef said:
AJ what a great test career - I remember years ago Fra v Wal last few mins Wales just ahead on the 5 meter line the whole time and AJ essentially ensured Wales won that game (and oIRC that went on to be our first GS since the 70's).

A shame he didn't hit the magic 100 - but if Father Time meant he was no longer first choice then that is that no one should be simply gifted a centurion its earned and he earned 95 exceptional caps which is monumental in its own right.
From what I have read it's the new scrum laws that have done for him rather than father time ....wasn't as dominant at the scrum.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Cheib said:
From what I have read it's the new scrum laws that have done for him rather than father time ....wasn't as dominant at the scrum.
I recall him facing off against The Beast - crowd expecting him to be destroyed.... Turns out it was men v boys and beasty being the boy wink

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Cheib said:
From what I have read it's the new scrum laws that have done for him rather than father time ....wasn't as dominant at the scrum.
Not so sure about that one tbh. Weren't the new laws in place for the Lions when he marmalised the Crims?

I think his fitness has dropped off a fair bit this season.

irocfan

40,433 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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DocJock said:
Just needs the experience to know when NOT to try it as he does get caught more than you'd like.
wasn't that Cip's problem though?

The Q is will DC and SM battle it out vs the Wolfhounds this friday for a sport on the bench next? Personally (like many on here) while I really don't wish any player an injury let alone something like a knee loosing baby-Faz could be a blessing. Gives us time to try combos and also, potentially, get's Cips a little game time behind a consistently strong 8.

As regards AJ - been a good servant to the game and it's sad the way it's ended. From what I've read there's a very good chance he'd have been at the WC so not fully understanding his logic there

Edited by irocfan on Thursday 29th January 14:59

a311

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5,803 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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hornetrider said:
Not so sure about that one tbh. Weren't the new laws in place for the Lions when he marmalised the Crims?

I think his fitness has dropped off a fair bit this season.
Lion's Aus tour was about the test I can remember with the old laws i.e. touch, pause, engage.....

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Heads up, Saxons V Ireland Wolfhounds tonight...


Matt Mullan and Rob Webber in the front row, Matt Kvesic at openside, rising Exeter sensation Henry Slade at No 10 and two established Test wings in Chris Ashton and Marland Yarde, and Sam Burgess at inside centre.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/articl...


Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Chris Pennell at full back is where my personal interest lies. Good to see a couple of former Warriors cutting the mustard too. Will be a good game, I shall be hieing me to the pub

epom

11,514 posts

161 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Didn't realise tonight's game was on in Cork frown Dammit, I'd have went to that.

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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England's set pieces are a shambles.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

161 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Vocal Minority said:
Chris Pennell at full back is where my personal interest lies. Good to see a couple of former Warriors cutting the mustard too. Will be a good game, I shall be hieing me to the pub
Pennell spot on so far

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Burgess is garbage at 12.

steveT350C

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161 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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hornetrider said:
Burgess is garbage at 12.
Only his 6th Union game; he has a lot to learn.

iiyama

2,201 posts

201 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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How are you watching the game fellas? Is on Sat? Or you watching on line?