6 Nations 2015

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hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Agree with three of those changes, not sure on Baldwin. Would also have brought Tips in at 7 with Sam over to 6. Lydiate needs a game I think.

spikeyhead

17,339 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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BBC reporting that May has been dropped from the squad

iiyama

2,201 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Has the starting fifteen been named yet?

a311

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5,806 posts

178 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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iiyama said:
Has the starting fifteen been named yet?
Just the squad if you're talking England.

Slaav

4,255 posts

211 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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irocfan said:
a311 said:
I’d agree he’s a bit of a liability in my eyes. I could live with his flakiness if he did a bit more in attack he’s murdered a few chances in my eyes. He does have genuine pace but needs to back himself more often as he spends far too much time running across the field rather than forwards towards the try line. He also seems to dance on the spot a bit trying to step but is too big and lanky to sell it to the opposition.

There aren’t a great number of other options in my eyes that have at least some experience. Christian Wade has defensive question marks and a lack of international experience. I’d put Jack Nowell in, he doesn’t score that many but is overall a very solid all round player with a good boot. Pre –tournament I’d have said just to stick some solid defensive options for all the ball they were actually getting with Fazlet at #10. The Midfield seems to firing more these days though.
given May's defensive issues I'd go for Wade all day long (in as much as he also has defensive issues but at least he knows where to damn well run!) or Ashton or Nowell or Strettle or Roko (albeit he's injured?)
Whilst absolutely not a Jason Robinson, when was the last time the crowd sits forward with a sharp intake of breath before Wade?

Having watched him at Wasps and also his few chances for England, there is definitely genuine excitement when Wade gets the ball, especially in space! It is almost tangible. Imagine the oppo defence? Winger scared to go in on him, back tow simply has to go and cover as he beats so many first up tackles, outside centre has to keep an eye on him as he simply can't trust the FB to take him down? Well by my reckoning, that's four people thinking about wade! (FB knows he may be skinned so will naturally position himself accordingly depending on his best covering defensive technique - ie use the touch line and shepherd or trust your technique and go in hard early and be made a fool etc)

Defensively, he simply isn't that bad and on occasion he goes inside for the tackle and looks an idiot by losing yo an overlap but when you look at this at Wasps, it is sometimes 3 on 1 and he has to pick something and someone frown

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Slaav said:
Whilst absolutely not a Jason Robinson, when was the last time the crowd sits forward with a sharp intake of breath before Wade?

Having watched him at Wasps and also his few chances for England, there is definitely genuine excitement when Wade gets the ball, especially in space! It is almost tangible. Imagine the oppo defence? Winger scared to go in on him, back tow simply has to go and cover as he beats so many first up tackles, outside centre has to keep an eye on him as he simply can't trust the FB to take him down? Well by my reckoning, that's four people thinking about wade! (FB knows he may be skinned so will naturally position himself accordingly depending on his best covering defensive technique - ie use the touch line and shepherd or trust your technique and go in hard early and be made a fool etc)

Defensively, he simply isn't that bad and on occasion he goes inside for the tackle and looks an idiot by losing yo an overlap but when you look at this at Wasps, it is sometimes 3 on 1 and he has to pick something and someone frown
I agree 100%. I have been rambling on about him for a few years.

I know quite a few people "in the game" and none of them agree with me, but I'd have him in the side all day long.

NormalWisdom

2,139 posts

160 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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Infuriatingly, I am on a flight this Sunday from 1.15pm. Any ideas how I might watch the match in the U.S. from around 11pm GMT?

ukbabz

1,549 posts

127 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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NormalWisdom said:
Infuriatingly, I am on a flight this Sunday from 1.15pm. Any ideas how I might watch the match in the U.S. from around 11pm GMT?
I'd imagine the game will be up on iPlayer by then - so laptop + UK proxy service?

irocfan

40,538 posts

191 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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think yourself lucky - I've been roped into a birthday meal starting @ 13.00 frown lol

iiyama

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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a311 said:
iiyama said:
Has the starting fifteen been named yet?
Just the squad if you're talking England.
I was, sorry, should have been more accurate. beer

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Wednesday 25th February 2015
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I like the idea of Wade and JJ in the same side with Watson on the other side, BUT only with Brown behind them and not facing Sexton and Bowe. They are playing a very risk averse game at the moment, targeted kicks over the back line to the back 3. It's a defensive back three game when you face Ireland at the moment.

Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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DJRC said:
I like the idea of Wade and JJ in the same side with Watson on the other side, BUT only with Brown behind them and not facing Sexton and Bowe. They are playing a very risk averse game at the moment, targeted kicks over the back line to the back 3. It's a defensive back three game when you face Ireland at the moment.

Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.
Yep...the Ireland aerial game is quite scary good at the moment.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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irocfan

40,538 posts

191 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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no real surprises - nor should there be TBH. Out of curiosity since Izno (Goode) is playing is he another place kicking option?

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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possibly, used to play fly half.

interesting article about him here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...

irocfan

40,538 posts

191 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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steveT350C said:
possibly, used to play fly half.

interesting article about him here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
it is an interesting article but I tend to agree with this comment:
"The big issue when you compare him to Mike Brown is that Mike Brown runs the ball back very well"... whereas Goode gets smashed and turned over. Mike Brown can also do this thing called 'tackling'."
For me a fit MB, BF or even Delon (as long as he manages to lose that chip) rather than Izno. I accept that at club level the guy is great but I've not been convinced by him in England colours, that being said I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him get MoM on Sunday

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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irocfan said:
steveT350C said:
possibly, used to play fly half.

interesting article about him here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
it is an interesting article but I tend to agree with this comment:
"The big issue when you compare him to Mike Brown is that Mike Brown runs the ball back very well"... whereas Goode gets smashed and turned over. Mike Brown can also do this thing called 'tackling'."
For me a fit MB, BF or even Delon (as long as he manages to lose that chip) rather than Izno. I accept that at club level the guy is great but I've not been convinced by him in England colours, that being said I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him get MoM on Sunday
indeed MB is a big loss. Lets hope Goode catching game is up to the high ball tactic that Sexton executes so well.

getting nervous!

Cyder

7,058 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Bloody hell I'm glad Sam 'the second coming' Burgess is nowhere near the England squad currently. He's been terribly poor so far in the match against Exeter today, and wasn't a lot better last week at The Rec against Northampton.

Edited by Cyder on Saturday 28th February 16:03

Baron Greenback

6,998 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Wow what an ending for the Italy v Scotland match! wooden spoon match and a half!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Wow.

1st cap
Then yellow card
Leading to penalty try
Leading to home loss v Italy.

I'd wager as much as it is a team sport he will want to crawl under a rock

Parissee ear to ear smile / make that the entire Italian team. Well done Italy an away win against Scotland is superb.