The Golf Thread - 2015
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Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Rosscow said:
HaplessBoyLard said:
Jordan spieth makes me sick. He's incredible. If he donated 10% of his ability to me I'd be a bloody scratch golfer.
He's just won $10m and doesn't even look that bothered!
I don't like him. I find him irritating to watch - I don't think his overall game is as good as others, but his putting gets him out of so many sticky situations. He's just won $10m and doesn't even look that bothered!
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ker!Rory and Day are better off the tee, and a lot longer, but Speith's precision and touch, for me, is second to none.
SpeckledJim said:
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Rosscow said:
HaplessBoyLard said:
Jordan spieth makes me sick. He's incredible. If he donated 10% of his ability to me I'd be a bloody scratch golfer.
He's just won $10m and doesn't even look that bothered!
I don't like him. I find him irritating to watch - I don't think his overall game is as good as others, but his putting gets him out of so many sticky situations. He's just won $10m and doesn't even look that bothered!
Little f
ker!Little f
ker!Rory and Day are better off the tee, and a lot longer, but Speith's precision and touch, for me, is second to none.
Speith is 78th in driving distance (barely knocking it further than little old me) whilst Day is 3rd. A quarter of Day's drives are over 320 yards, whilst only 7% of Speith's top 320.
Day also beats Speith in GIR, ranked 7th against 49th, and scrambling, again Day is better, 2nd against 4th.
The PGA collect LOADS of statistics, and Speith leads in precious few of them. But the only one that really counts, average strokes per round, he's number 1 by a significant 0.25 strokes. Meaning he's the best. This year, at least.
Weirdly, Speith is ranked 171st on 5' putts, missing a quarter of them. He's actually more accurate from 6' than he is from 5'.
He's 82nd in putting from 10-15'.
But he sinks well over a quarter of all his putts from 15-25' ranked 1/2. Given the type of greens he's putting across, that's just amazing.
I love this stuff. It isn't apparent from watching the TV coverage, but there are so many different ways the pros skin their individual cats, and yet end-up very close at the end.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Monday 28th September 11:30
Rosscow said:
So basically, if he gets the yips, he's fked 
Yup. Through it's even more specific than that. Inside 10' he isn't special at all. I mean not at allked But he is such a genius with the longer putts that it drags up the averages in a huge way.
He's ranked 171st from 5', 133rd from 7' and 136th from 10'. So, in this elevated context, he's a bit pants at some very ordinary putts(!).
This weakness shows he's not simply a wonder-putter. He must be a very, very complete golfer.
You'd have been impressed with my sand saves yesterday, Jim.
3 bunker shots, 2 of which I put to 4' and saved par from, the other one was on a down slope but I managed to get it to 12' - 2 putts though.
These are proper pot bunkers as well. Just 3 tee shots that cost me yesterday. A hooked drive on the 1st, a fat 8 iron on the par 3 7th and a wild swing with the driver on the 13th.
3 bunker shots, 2 of which I put to 4' and saved par from, the other one was on a down slope but I managed to get it to 12' - 2 putts though.
These are proper pot bunkers as well. Just 3 tee shots that cost me yesterday. A hooked drive on the 1st, a fat 8 iron on the par 3 7th and a wild swing with the driver on the 13th.
I like Spieth as a golfer but he seems pretty forgettable despite his massive talent. If Woods or McIlroy walk down the road, most non-golfers would know who they are. Spieth could walk down the road and even golf fans might not recognise him. This doesn't take anything away from his ability as a golfer but it's nice to see the superstars doing good work for the profile of the game.
Rickie Fowler might have been a better host for Spieth's talent.
Rickie Fowler might have been a better host for Spieth's talent.
I find it interesting. If you look at almost every area of his game in isolation he's pretty average, but he continues to find ways to make low scores. He seems mentally tough. I wish I could putt anything like the way he does from mid - long range. I'd save myself 3 or 4 strokes a round.
He is bland though. I don't find him exctiting to watch at all.
He is bland though. I don't find him exctiting to watch at all.
I'm a terrible putter - by far the worst part of my game.
Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
SpeckledJim said:
I'm a terrible putter - by far the worst part of my game.
Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
Come now Jim, you'd 3 putt half?!Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
Out of ten 25' putts I would probably hole none, but I may only 3 putt one or two. My putting has greatly improved over recent months.
25' putts on the greens they play on, mind, and it could be a different story
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
I'm a terrible putter - by far the worst part of my game.
Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
Come now Jim, you'd 3 putt half?!Take a normal 20-25' putt. I might have one like that on every other green. Ish. So say 10 for the round.
In a normal round I wouldn't hole any of them. I'd 3 putt half, and 2 putt half. So 25 putts.
Speith will sink 2 or 3, and 2 putt the rest. So 17 or 18 putts.
7 or 8 shots gained on me within 8 yards of the hole.
We could play absolutely identically from tee to green and he'd beat me 8&7 or 6&5 or some other whitewash.
Different world.
Out of ten 25' putts I would probably hole none, but I may only 3 putt one or two. My putting has greatly improved over recent months.
25' putts on the greens they play on, mind, and it could be a different story
Jim I ain't having it that you're that awful at putting? If you are then seek help asap and lower that HC!
Prime candidate for Aimpoint?
Rosscow said:
25' putts on the greens they play on, mind, and it could be a different story
Indeed. I played a comp the week before last, and the greens had been cut and ironed that morning. They weren't the fastest I've putted on, but the pin positions were utter filth. On the edge of tiers, or on tiny plateaus. If your speed wasnt perfect the ball was gone, and being above the hole on the green was a killer. I was hitting putts that looked like the were going to leave me a tap in, only to be left with a 10 footer back. DuncanM said:
Better the greens the easier putting is surely? Always been the case for me
Jim I ain't having it that you're that awful at putting? If you are then seek help asap and lower that HC!
Prime candidate for Aimpoint?
For me, better greens make for easier short putting, as they roll true. They are harder for longer putts, as small errors in weight translate to big errors in distance.Jim I ain't having it that you're that awful at putting? If you are then seek help asap and lower that HC!
Prime candidate for Aimpoint?
I've read the basics about aimpoint, and it seems fair enough. I think I'm better at the read than I am at the stroke. And I don't get enough practice. This sounds like the match.com thread.
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