2014 Cricket World Cup - Official Thread
Discussion
Our batting was not too bad, but our bowling, without any swing on these placid pitches looks rather tame. I've losrt any hope of us doing well in this competition if we do get past the group stages. I'd sort of hoped we might have a couple of good days in the knockout, ie it all came together or the other team played badly or just down to luck but we as so far behind I don't think any of those will come to our aid.
Before the competition we had a close game with Australia, that seems a million years away. I recall they did not have their top players playing.
Before the competition we had a close game with Australia, that seems a million years away. I recall they did not have their top players playing.
I watched us bat & then listened to Vaughan, Hussain & Strauss biging up the England innings. With all these crazy batting stats & display's in this world cup i'm amazed that none of them said it wasn't enough.
At more or less a run a ball on these flat tracks 310 was never enough.
It seems the rest of the worlds elite teams have moved on apart from us.
At more or less a run a ball on these flat tracks 310 was never enough.
It seems the rest of the worlds elite teams have moved on apart from us.
Black can man said:
I watched us bat & then listened to Vaughan, Hussain & Strauss biging up the England innings. With all these crazy batting stats & display's in this world cup i'm amazed that none of them said it wasn't enough.
Not surprising really they were captain in the 3 previous WC and we were equally poor most of the games we have won in the last 4 WC are against the minnows. The next WC will have the test playing nations only in. As hosts there is the chance we could go winless in the next WC. 
That match was confirmation if any were needed that we need a complete rethink. We should have scored at least 350. Great start and finish the middle overs were poor. No energy or pressure on the bowlers. We have resisted bringing in Hales for Balance. Why? No statement of intent or freedom in our batting at 3. Why not? Come on Moores. Look at Taylor, young busy great runner loads of energy gets the bowlers thinking. Buttler batting too low should be an ABD at 5. Morgan can bat lower and finish. The bowling attack is one paced and inadequate. Not super quick or pace off. Jimmy/Broady experienced but have done nothing. Not even tried using a specialist spinner. Why? I reckon our T20 team of youngsters would have done a lot better. We are too conservative in our approach and haven't moved on tactically. That team yesterday will win us nothing. Is it the best we have? No. Get the youngsters in. They have no fear. How long is this going to take to sort out? Turgid thinking. Statistically constipated and young quality players have to wait too long to get in the side. The Aus v NZ game adequately demonstrated just how far away we are. Different planet.
Jos Buttler needs to come in higher up the order. His talent is wasted down at number seven, lovely cameo again from him today but it really is ridiculous that unless the top five are skittled early, he's not going to get much time to bat.
And even when England do score a half decent total, they do it in such a pedestrian manner that Buttler simply runs out of overs. He came in today after 45.3 overs, meaning he had a maximum of 27 balls to face. He did well to face two thirds of them but talent like his need 60-70 balls at least to get their eye in then start swinging.
And even when England do score a half decent total, they do it in such a pedestrian manner that Buttler simply runs out of overs. He came in today after 45.3 overs, meaning he had a maximum of 27 balls to face. He did well to face two thirds of them but talent like his need 60-70 balls at least to get their eye in then start swinging.
zygalski said:
300's a good score. If your bowlers turn up.
I think this misses the point. Depending on the track 300 simply is not enough these days with power hitters and bigger bats. Look at England yesterday. Scored 300 even with lazy batting in the middle overs. Oh and yes with our bowling on that wicket we needed at least 340. dav123a said:
Quite a bit of chat about changing batting order round I think its less of a problem than the bowling. Anderson and broad have been dire. I'd drop one of them although the bowling back up cupboard is bare.
Don't disagree with that. We have a one paced attack with little variety or quality. Dilshan showed that. However we have batting options much fewer bowling options. Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff