Anyone ever been Mink hunting ?
Discussion
CountZero23 said:
So you're asking if seeing live animals being torn apart by dogs is 'any good'?
Did you have a history of bedwetting pyromania and animal cruelty as child?
Was hoping this was a new euphemism for chasing skirt.
PUT DOWN THE DAILY MAIL AND READ WHAT THE OP SAID!!! Where does he say he's going hunting with dogs??? You owe him an apology for the ad hominem attack. Did you have a history of bedwetting pyromania and animal cruelty as child?
Was hoping this was a new euphemism for chasing skirt.
wikipedia.org said:
Mink hunting is a country sport involving the hunting of American mink with scent hounds along the waterways which make up their habitat, in a manner similar to fox hunting.[1] Mink hunting took place in the countryside in the UK and Ireland, but since 2005 traditional mink hunting has been banned in England and Wales.
So illegal and exceptionally cruel. Edited by CountZero23 on Wednesday 18th March 17:37
Pothole said:
No different to killing a rat.
I was in Wales last year and my daughter and I were feeding the birds bread, as countless families have done for the last 100 years, for some mild enjoyment even if it is not that good for them http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-3...
Funnily enough the feral pigeon population seems to be doing quite well on that and also left over Mcdonalds chips....
Anyhow back to the point, my daughter and I were happily feeding the seagulls and crows and some irate Welshman came up and said
"You know it's against the law to feed the seagulls"
Me - " No it isn't "
Welshman " You wouldn't feed rats would you"
Me - " Actually I feed the birds in my garden and the odd rat or two eats that also, so yes I do feed them. Go away ! "
We do have rats in our garden, the fall to predation quite quickly but they are interesting things to watch until they do. Our cats, which kill birds also and not "natural" tend to put an end to them.
The pet moggy is probably bigger health hazard to the general environmental balance than either.
So perhaps we should go cat hunting rather than mink hunting?
Edited by Gandahar on Wednesday 18th March 18:33
drfrank said:
@countzero23
Thanks for your enlightened response, thankfully in Brighton the mink population will not be an issue for you.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but please make it an intelligent one, perhaps reading my opening statement in full would have made you look slightly less stupid. At no point did I state how the quarry was to be hunted or if I, in anyway condoned a particular method.
Enjoy Brighton, it's a lovely place
Don't forget to take your mink hunting eagle with you rather than this poor bloke who tried hunting them with a Lesser Spotted Red capped Green Throat Warbler.Thanks for your enlightened response, thankfully in Brighton the mink population will not be an issue for you.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion but please make it an intelligent one, perhaps reading my opening statement in full would have made you look slightly less stupid. At no point did I state how the quarry was to be hunted or if I, in anyway condoned a particular method.
Enjoy Brighton, it's a lovely place
Absolutely Mink need to be kept under control/eradicated as soon as possible but hunting is not the way.
I am also a keen fly fisherman but hunting mink with dogs is not the right way to go about it.
Obviously you haven't stated your intended method, but I am assuming it doesn't involve much humanity.
I am also a keen fly fisherman but hunting mink with dogs is not the right way to go about it.
Obviously you haven't stated your intended method, but I am assuming it doesn't involve much humanity.
Gandahar said:
Pothole said:
No different to killing a rat.
I was in Wales last year and my daughter and I were feeding the birds bread, as countless families have done for the last 100 years, for some mild enjoyment even if it is not that good for them http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-3...
Funnily enough the feral pigeon population seems to be doing quite well on that and also left over Mcdonalds chips....
Anyhow back to the point, my daughter and I were happily feeding the seagulls and crows and some irate Welshman came up and said
"You know it's against the law to feed the seagulls"
Me - " No it isn't "
Welshman " You wouldn't feed rats would you"
Me - " Actually I feed the birds in my garden and the odd rat or two eats that also, so yes I do feed them. Go away ! "
We do have rats in our garden, the fall to predation quite quickly but they are interesting things to watch until they do. Our cats, which kill birds also and not "natural" tend to put an end to them.
The pet moggy is probably bigger health hazard to the general environmental balance than either.
So perhaps we should go cat hunting rather than mink hunting?
Edited by Gandahar on Wednesday 18th March 18:33
It's never a good idea to encourage seagulls to see humans as a source of food. Their beaks are very sharp and could hurt your daughter quite a lot if they decided to, to get the bread in her fingers rather than waiting. I've seen a gull draw blood from someone feeding it chips and it was not pleasant.
Also, you're coming across as an animal lover. Bread is not a good thing to be feeding to birds so why do you do it?
drfrank said:
I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON ONE AND GENUINELY ASKED WHAT IT INVOLVES !
(Is it any good)
I have no knowledge of hunting mink other than seeing traps around the rivers I fish.
Other people said it better than me. Yes they are a non-native species but then so is a lot of the "British" wildlife. Yes they can be perceived as damaging the eco-system but they have, through time, become part of that eco-system, much like the Grey Squirrel, humans running up and down the river bank with hounds are not part of the river eco-system. If the Mink population needs controlling, there is probably a more humane method than chasing it to exhaustion with hounds. (Is it any good)
I have no knowledge of hunting mink other than seeing traps around the rivers I fish.
Go watch if you want, it certainly sounds like you are keen, as to your question "is it any good?", I guess that depends what you are hoping to see and who you are siding with....
Many respondents to the OP assume that mink hunting involves dogs. Where did that come from? I can't imagine hunting a mink with a pooch would be effective, espcially as the mink will leg it down a hole or up a tree.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
Katzenjammer said:
Many respondents to the OP assume that mink hunting involves dogs. Where did that come from? I can't imagine hunting a mink with a pooch would be effective, espcially as the mink will leg it down a hole or up a tree.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
It involves minkhounds.As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
Pothole said:
Katzenjammer said:
Many respondents to the OP assume that mink hunting involves dogs. Where did that come from? I can't imagine hunting a mink with a pooch would be effective, espcially as the mink will leg it down a hole or up a tree.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
It involves minkhounds.As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
Katzenjammer said:
Pothole said:
Katzenjammer said:
Many respondents to the OP assume that mink hunting involves dogs. Where did that come from? I can't imagine hunting a mink with a pooch would be effective, espcially as the mink will leg it down a hole or up a tree.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
It involves minkhounds.As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
Pothole said:
Katzenjammer said:
Pothole said:
Katzenjammer said:
Many respondents to the OP assume that mink hunting involves dogs. Where did that come from? I can't imagine hunting a mink with a pooch would be effective, espcially as the mink will leg it down a hole or up a tree.
As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
It involves minkhounds.As for hunting mink by the usual means - trapping or shooting - I don't see a problem; they're vermin and descrutive to birds, fish and mammals alike.
The dogs will hunt and kill rats alone the way which is legal.
egor110 said:
Why would anyone go along to spectate any hunting?
I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
You could start by asking the tens of thousands of people who turned out for the Christmas/Boxing Day hunts this year.I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
Round here it's just an occasion to pat the Foxhounds, drink sherry, admire the horses, and generally enjoy the spectacle of it all. The killing pests bit is just a sideline to that really.
NinjaPower said:
egor110 said:
Why would anyone go along to spectate any hunting?
I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
You could start by asking the tens of thousands of people who turned out for the Christmas/Boxing Day hunts this year.I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
Round here it's just an occasion to pat the Foxhounds, drink sherry, admire the horses, and generally enjoy the spectacle of it all. The killing pests bit is just a sideline to that really.
Sorry i don't buy into that, i live/work on Exmoor so very aware of hunting, if people want to see horses there are loads of show jumping events down here.
The whole we only destroy the old/ill foxes and the fox has a decent chance of escape is a crock too, due to the spotters the hunt have bombing around on quads.
egor110 said:
NinjaPower said:
egor110 said:
Why would anyone go along to spectate any hunting?
I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
You could start by asking the tens of thousands of people who turned out for the Christmas/Boxing Day hunts this year.I totally understand if your a farmer and you have a pest you need to get rid of, but why would anyone treat destroying a animal as something to do on a day out?
Round here it's just an occasion to pat the Foxhounds, drink sherry, admire the horses, and generally enjoy the spectacle of it all. The killing pests bit is just a sideline to that really.
Sorry i don't buy into that, i live/work on Exmoor so very aware of hunting, if people want to see horses there are loads of show jumping events down here.
The whole we only destroy the old/ill foxes and the fox has a decent chance of escape is a crock too, due to the spotters the hunt have bombing around on quads.
From what I have seen, most don't hang around for the actual catching of the vermin, but enjoy the pomp and ceremony of the meeting.
If there was a horse show or show jumping going on in my back garden I would close the curtains, but seeing a village street full of hounds and horses is quite something.
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