Is Britain the Greatest sporting nation on Earth?

Is Britain the Greatest sporting nation on Earth?

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Amirhussain said:
England are absolutely and utterly st at football. Score goals against piss poor teams in the qualifiers, but flop at the real stage.

How many of goals did England score at 2014 world cup? 2? And even they were cancelled out by the opposition.
Really.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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This is an interesting site. Gives figures for Olympic medals won on a per capita and per GDP basis.

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#golds-per-capita:2...

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Moonhawk said:
This is an interesting site. Gives figures for Olympic medals won on a per capita and per GDP basis.

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#golds-per-capita:2...
That settles it then, Finland it is biggrin

williamp

19,248 posts

273 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Without the Uk, motor racing would be a traditional hobby persued by rich folks. Like real tennis.

No other country has such dominance over one sport.

An we are always there or there abouts in just about every other sport. Rather then a specialism, like rugby, hockey, cricket, kabaddi etc etc

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Moonhawk said:
This is an interesting site. Gives figures for Olympic medals won on a per capita and per GDP basis.

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#golds-per-capita:2...
What about Sark? Population of 600 and a Gold in Dressage and World Champion Powerboat Class holder. Guernsey has Matt Le Tissier, Andy Priaulx, Heather Watson, Alison Merrion (Bowls), Dale Garland and Lee Merrien (Team UK Running) and not a full Guernseyman, but British Landspeed Record holder (Street Motorcycle @ 233.7mph) is Zef Eisenberg.

Not bad for a little Island.

Thankyou4calling

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10,601 posts

173 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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In boxing the USA have 9 World Champions.

The United Kingdom have 10!

ecsrobin

17,087 posts

165 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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williamp said:
Without the Uk, motor racing would be a traditional hobby persued by rich folks. Like real tennis.

No other country has such dominance over one sport.

An we are always there or there abouts in just about every other sport. Rather then a specialism, like rugby, hockey, cricket, kabaddi etc etc
Agreed when it's not a British driver winning there's a high chance it's a British car.

Challo

10,102 posts

155 months

Saturday 27th June 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
ecsrobin said:
Why have you put football on the list? We are not good at it.
I'll tell you why.

Football is the most widely played game in the world, pretty much every country plays football, that's what 250 countries. Every four years they hold the World Cup for the top 32 teams in the World, England pretty much always qualify and generally get to the last 16 teams or better.

At the moment we are in the qualification process for the European championships, it'll be pretty much a World Cup save for a few teams.

England have won every single qualifying game, no other country has and all other British teams are in with a shout.

The Premier League is widely accepted to be one of the most competitive and highest quality leagues in the World.

So, with Football being such a widespread and popular sport and England being one of the highest ranked teams we do well and I say England rather than Britain for obvious reasons.


Edited by Thankyou4calling on Saturday 27th June 21:15
I don't agree with the football bit. Yes we tend to qualify but you have to be pretty poor not too. We never do well in the competitions, and have only won the World Cup once. The amount of money in the premier league and the number of people playing the sport, plus our population means we should be doing a lot better than we are. Also the number of non-UK players means they are makin the premier league better, not UK players.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Challo said:
Thankyou4calling said:
ecsrobin said:
Why have you put football on the list? We are not good at it.
I'll tell you why.

Football is the most widely played game in the world, pretty much every country plays football, that's what 250 countries. Every four years they hold the World Cup for the top 32 teams in the World, England pretty much always qualify and generally get to the last 16 teams or better.

At the moment we are in the qualification process for the European championships, it'll be pretty much a World Cup save for a few teams.

England have won every single qualifying game, no other country has and all other British teams are in with a shout.

The Premier League is widely accepted to be one of the most competitive and highest quality leagues in the World.

So, with Football being such a widespread and popular sport and England being one of the highest ranked teams we do well and I say England rather than Britain for obvious reasons.


Edited by Thankyou4calling on Saturday 27th June 21:15
I don't agree with the football bit. Yes we tend to qualify but you have to be pretty poor not too. We never do well in the competitions, and have only won the World Cup once. The amount of money in the premier league and the number of people playing the sport, plus our population means we should be doing a lot better than we are. Also the number of non-UK players means they are makin the premier league better, not UK players.
I'd agree with that. Look at the amount of British players playing abroad & there are very few and this is one of the main reasons we don't do very well at tournaments. Apart from Bale, I'm struggling to think of any other top-flight ones.

The EPL can attract players from all over the world, however our own domestic players are less attractive to foreign teams.

thegreenhell

15,272 posts

219 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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The England women's football team has just reached the World Cup semi-finals in their tournament.

fttm

3,677 posts

135 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Yes they have , beat Canada whose population is 30m and spend half their life snowed under , great feckin achievement . How are the Brits at winter sports ?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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fttm said:
Yes they have , beat Canada whose population is 30m and spend half their life snowed under , great feckin achievement . How are the Brits at winter sports ?
You sound very bitter, rofl

For what it is worth we are pretty terrible at it - but you guys were rubbish at the 2012 London olympics too, presumably all that snow and ice stops you from swimming or riding a bike indoors right?

Eric Mc

121,940 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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williamp said:
Without the Uk, motor racing would be a traditional hobby persued by rich folks. Like real tennis.
Sadly, it no longer is.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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I would agree with a lot of what OP says apart from the football, its our first choice national sport, we have the best league setup in the world and let's be honest we underachieve. Nearly 50 years since a cup was won. We should be up there no excuses.

I would barely put them in the top 10 in the world at the moment.

Winning all of your qualifying group games is nothing to shout home about if your piss poor at the finals, and I know it was a friendly but they should have thumped ireland , a country which football is easily their fourth sport and a population less than 1/10th.




The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
I hope this stays in the lounge but here goes.

I think Britain IS THE GREATEST SPORTING NATION ON EARTH.

By nature, we are self deprecating and like to moan be it about the weather, our roads, the cost of living and the performance of our sports teams and individuals.

Yet, if you look at almost any sport, Britain has representation and success at the highest level. Bear in mind, there can only be one winner so to get to finals and the closing stages is a hell of an achievement.

Cricket, Rugby, Football, Athletics, Cycling,Horse racing, F1, Boxing, Golf, Tennis, Badmnton, Rowing, Swimming can any other country come close to the quality of Sport offered and level of achievement overall?



Edited by Thankyou4calling on Saturday 27th June 17:06
I only wish it were true.

As a nation considering our size and relative wealth, we underperform.

Conversely, consider New Zealand. They outperform.

Thankyou4calling

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10,601 posts

173 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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dazwalsh said:
I would agree with a lot of what OP says apart from the football, its our first choice national sport, we have the best league setup in the world and let's be honest we underachieve. Nearly 50 years since a cup was won. We should be up there no excuses.

I would barely put them in the top 10 in the world at the moment.

Winning all of your qualifying group games is nothing to shout home about if your piss poor at the finals, and I know it was a friendly but they should have thumped ireland , a country which football is easily their fourth sport and a population less than 1/10th.
With the Football I take all on board, I'm looking at all (most) significant sports and we do well, not the best at them all but always in contention, a nation that gives a good account of itself.

People have said New Zealand and of course in Rugby and cricket they, overall and overtime are I'd say comparable to England in those sports, no better, but what else?

I'm trying not to cherry pick and look at the overall picture, the UK does a lot better than many would have us believe.

Wimbledon is around the corner and let's say Andy Murray goes out at the quarter finals, we know what the papers will say but that's an AMAZING achievement.

As well as our performances we also host what are widely considered to be many of the worlds greatest sporting events and that all comes under the same umbrella of making us the GREATEST SPORTING NATION ON EARTH!

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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London 2012 did seem well received the world over, despite our general English trait of putting ourselves down in the press before we even got started, in fairness. yes

Amateurish

7,732 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Thankyou4calling said:
I'll tell you why.

Football is the most widely played game in the world, pretty much every country plays football, that's what 250 countries. Every four years they hold the World Cup for the top 32 teams in the World, England pretty much always qualify and generally get to the last 16 teams or better.

At the moment we are in the qualification process for the European championships, it'll be pretty much a World Cup save for a few teams.
In the last two world cups, we have only won one game, and that was against Slovenia.

Ace-T

7,695 posts

255 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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thegreenhell said:
The England women's football team has just reached the World Cup semi-finals in their tournament.
I will just leave this here... or do you think it would be more amusing in the PH sexism thread? wink


epom

11,486 posts

161 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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And he have that heavyweight boxer who has beaten up a load of older fat men recently too smile
(Mentioning the Olympic medal would ruin my point so shhhhhh)