The Ashes 2015
Discussion
NBTBRV8 said:
+1.
The difference between the two sides is that Australia is by and large a top quality side that let their standards slip for a variety of reasons. England aren't a better side, they just happened to be performing better at a lower level which was better than Australia on the day.
Australia's performance dropped, rather than England improving theirs and this test series supports this as England can't sustain a superior performance, hence are a lower performing side.
You didn't watch in England in the WI earlier on this year. England have improved a fair bit. Had that team turned up we would have lost easily. Loads of reasons why England won. Interesting to see the rebuilding of Australian team in time.The difference between the two sides is that Australia is by and large a top quality side that let their standards slip for a variety of reasons. England aren't a better side, they just happened to be performing better at a lower level which was better than Australia on the day.
Australia's performance dropped, rather than England improving theirs and this test series supports this as England can't sustain a superior performance, hence are a lower performing side.
Leithen said:
The series was all about the bowlers, and England bowled better.
Given the dominance of batsmen in T20 in the current era, this is a good thing.
Can't agree with that. The series was lost by senseless batting by Aus. Eng didn't bowl terribly in the first innings here. Lots of zip and sideways movement by Wood & Broad. But lots and lots of letting the ball go by Aus. Run rate in first 20-30 overs was less than 2/over.Given the dominance of batsmen in T20 in the current era, this is a good thing.
Aus bowled poorly in Cardiff - but Eng didn't bowl all that well. Ali & Root took quite a few wickets - down to pretty daft Aus batting.
As I said above, the scorebook say Eng get the urn. I think the Aus batsmen will wonder what might have been for a bit of discipline for years to come.
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
Edited by johnfm on Sunday 23 August 15:33
johnfm said:
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
I wouldn't ponder on it too long John. No mystery, although it may be a surprise to a proud Aussie, over a 5 match series your lot were worse. Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
johnfm said:
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
The thing is, a 5 test series generally proves who the poorer side was. This time it was your mob. How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
Edited by johnfm on Sunday 23 August 15:33
Your batsmen were as frail as ours. Perhaps more so on balance.
This test might have been different had we (a) batted first and (b) Anderson had been fit/our bowling attack been anything other than feeble. But ifs and buts and all that.
Your team lost over 5 tests. Both sides were piss poor. Neither deserves a place in the top 3 ICC rankings. But that's the game
johnfm said:
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
No mystery John. As I said earlier, Aussie squad is the weakest one you've had in 25+ years. Combine that with an average England squad & a narrow home win for us is the result.How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
Edited by johnfm on Sunday 23 August 15:33
Bit of an odd test that, lacked some fire or any real passion, all felt a bit bloodless, but I guess that is the way of dead rubbers.
Aussies best player was Siddell, who presumably they will now drop again for the Bangla series.
In the end the crap/misfiring Aussie middle order just couldn't do it.
England have a way to go before becoming a really good test outfit, but some encouraging signs, Cook is batting better, Root looks a class act, Jimmy A and Broad continue to show real high class, Wood is an exciting find.
Elsewhere though, really annoyed Lyth hasn't taken his chance, can't see them persisting any further, I really thought he would make one decent score and then be settled to it, but it hasn't happened.
Bell ? I really don't know what to say.
Buttler - is this really the best option ?
Spinner - we really need a better frontline spinner, I like Moeen, but he is a bitsa at the moment, wouldn't mind seeing him at five.
Aussies best player was Siddell, who presumably they will now drop again for the Bangla series.
In the end the crap/misfiring Aussie middle order just couldn't do it.
England have a way to go before becoming a really good test outfit, but some encouraging signs, Cook is batting better, Root looks a class act, Jimmy A and Broad continue to show real high class, Wood is an exciting find.
Elsewhere though, really annoyed Lyth hasn't taken his chance, can't see them persisting any further, I really thought he would make one decent score and then be settled to it, but it hasn't happened.
Bell ? I really don't know what to say.
Buttler - is this really the best option ?
Spinner - we really need a better frontline spinner, I like Moeen, but he is a bitsa at the moment, wouldn't mind seeing him at five.
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It is believed to be costing them around £70million a year.
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