The Ashes 2015
Discussion
k them in the long term. zygalski said:
johnfm said:
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
No mystery John. As I said earlier, Aussie squad is the weakest one you've had in 25+ years. Combine that with an average England squad & a narrow home win for us is the result.How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
Edited by johnfm on Sunday 23 August 15:33
johnfm said:
zygalski said:
johnfm said:
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
No mystery John. As I said earlier, Aussie squad is the weakest one you've had in 25+ years. Combine that with an average England squad & a narrow home win for us is the result.How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery.
Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
Edited by johnfm on Sunday 23 August 15:33
I'll not hold my breath waiting.
el stovey said:
RichB said:
Not sure that means choice in the longer term or simply that sports fans have to have two subscriptions.
Yup, some sports on terrestrial some on sky/Eurosport and now some on BT. it just makes each subscription a little bit less worthwhile.
zygalski said:
Ok, so name a weaker Aussie ashes squad from 1989-2014 then.
I'll not hold my breath waiting.
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards. I'll not hold my breath waiting.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
el stovey said:
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
I think the result is a fair reflection of the two teams' performance : England played better than Aus.,but not a lot better.England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
No doubt this tour has been bad for Australia, but if you look at the form going into the series, who would you have dropped for being "old and poor"?
I see the loss as more a failure of technique than talent : the batsmen played badly too often, and went after balls they should have left alone.
The Aus. bowling could have been a lot better.
johnfm said:
zygalski said:
johnfm said:
Normality resumed.
How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery. Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
No mystery John. As I said earlier, Aussie squad is the weakest one you've had in 25+ years. Combine that with an average England squad & a narrow home win for us is the result.How the fvck we lost to a team who only passed 400 once will remain a mystery. Never any shame in losing to a better side. Losing to a poorer side, home or away, is not really good enough for professionals over a 5 match series.
Well done your lot.
el stovey said:
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
Australia had 4 of top 5 run getters and wicket takers I think so hardly a poor squad. They just didn't perform in the key moments and mgt made poor decisions re player selection. They will kick themselves as England as just as bad talent wise and rely on a handful of players as well. It proved that Australia are flat track bullies and England are green seamer bullies. One thing we have in our advantage is I think our young pace bowlers (Starc and Hazelwood are literally only starting their careers)have a lot of improvement in them plus we have a decent spinner. England don't seem to have much of either coming through the ranks. Good luck taking 20 wickets on anything but green seamers. You guys will get thrashed in the UAE and SA. England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
AW111 said:
el stovey said:
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
I think the result is a fair reflection of the two teams' performance : England played better than Aus.,but not a lot better.England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
No doubt this tour has been bad for Australia, but if you look at the form going into the series, who would you have dropped for being "old and poor"?
I see the loss as more a failure of technique than talent : the batsmen played badly too often, and went after balls they should have left alone.
The Aus. bowling could have been a lot better.
From Englands perspective its been a mixed back. Cook, Root & Moeen have been very good and done alot of the hard work on the run scoring. The rest of the batsman have been carried through by those 3.
Winning the Ashes has been great, although against a very poor performing Australian side. Big test will be how we cope in UAE and SA and can we take 20 wickets on pitches that offer little swing or sideways movement???
AW111 said:
el stovey said:
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
I think the result is a fair reflection of the two teams' performance : England played better than Aus.,but not a lot better.England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
No doubt this tour has been bad for Australia, but if you look at the form going into the series, who would you have dropped for being "old and poor"?
I see the loss as more a failure of technique than talent : the batsmen played badly too often, and went after balls they should have left alone.
The Aus. bowling could have been a lot better.
Unfortunately for Australia, the last test flattered Australia's deficits and they will trundle on downwards as they blame the wickets and bad luck for their failure.
el stovey said:
AW111 said:
el stovey said:
England, a young inexperienced, fresh side, on the up. Australia, the dying embers of the golden era, plummeting downwards.
England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
I think the result is a fair reflection of the two teams' performance : England played better than Aus.,but not a lot better.England will now go from strength to strength, whilst for Australia, things are going to get a lot worse. If Australia had any good young batsmen they wouldn't have picked such an old and poor side.
This tour has been a disaster for Australia. As zygalski points out, the worst Ashes squad in decades.
No doubt this tour has been bad for Australia, but if you look at the form going into the series, who would you have dropped for being "old and poor"?
I see the loss as more a failure of technique than talent : the batsmen played badly too often, and went after balls they should have left alone.
The Aus. bowling could have been a lot better.
Unfortunately for Australia, the last test flattered Australia's deficits and they will trundle on downwards as they blame the wickets and bad luck for their failure.
Bad luck? Where was that? And who tried to rely on it? I don't think there has been any luck, good or bad, in this series. Just poor application against the new ball in 2 tests and lack of patience against part timers in Cardiff - where Ali and Root took quite a few wickets.
Aus will continue to win test series in the near future. We'll see where we are against SA when the time comes I suppose.
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