The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

[Zammy]

Amirhussain said:

Came across these two fights from yesteryear. Enjoy

Hamed vs Kelley, four rounds, six knockdowns
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=116559...

Trinidad vs Mayorga
https://youtu.be/nHjItwoPx60

Funnliy enough I just came acrosse the Hamed vs Kelley fight too after watching the Eubank Jnr and Price latest fights. What a fight the Hamed one was, bit all over the place at times but a great fight every round.

Going back to the Eubank/Price fights and an earlier post just above does anyone know a good site that lists all upcoming fights and where they are being shown? I messed up with the Eubank/Price fights thinking they were on the weekend after they happened.

[StuTheGrouch]

Yiliterate said:

Yiliterate said:

StuTheGrouch said:

Can someone clarify something for me?

AJ is fighting Klitschko soon, for the WBA 'super' title. I thought that the super title was only given to a champion who possessed 2x regular titles. So, there's the IBF belt from AJ, so how is this fight for the super title?

On a related note, if the WBA regular champion (vacant in the heavyweight division) retains their title 5 times then they get promoted to the status of 'super champion'. So should that happen then either AJ or Klitchsko get stripped of the super belt. WTF?

I've always ignored the WBA interim, regular and super st, but as AJ is now mixed up in it I'd like to know more.

Edit- just seen that the vacant IBO belt is also up for grabs. That probably explains it.

Edited by StuTheGrouch on Tuesday 21st February 11:21

Really don't know what your issue is. The boxing fraternity is by and large in agreement that having multiple WBA champions per division makes no sense. The WBA has taken on board that feedback and has decided it is committed to having but one champion per division. Now, due to some 'unfortunate' circumstances, the WBA currently has no heavyweight title-holders. So, in summary, they have no heavyweight champions and they want one heavyweight champion.

Now, I ask you, if you have no champions and you want to have one champion, can you think of a more obvious or straightforward way of doing this than simply setting up fights to create two champions, then seeing if, somewhere down the road, you might be able to persuade those two champions, if they're not too busy doing anything else, to maybe, you know, possibly have a think about fighting each other so there's only one champion...???

Makes sense to me!

In farness to the WBA, allowing the vacant WBA 'super' title to be contested between Joshua and Klitschko was arguably essential in facilitating the fight, so can be seen as a 'judicious' decision in that regard (even though it ignored the fact that Ortiz, rather than Klitschko, was their highest ranked contender).

Essentially, Klitschko wasn't ranked by the IBF, so wasn't eligible to fight Joshua for the IBF belt alone. Similarly, as IBF champion, Joshua isn't actually ranked by the WBA (though as a champion of another organisation, would go to the head of the queue when fighting a unification). Also, it had to be the main WBA belt on the line as the other sanctioning bodies don't generally recognise the 'Regular' or 'Interim' versions for unifications. So, by allowing the WBA 'super' title to be on the line, it quite neatly tied up a number of loose ends to allow the Joshua-Klitschko fight to go ahead...

Blimey, thanks for the lengthy response. My question seemed to have awoken some sort of ranting monster!

[272BHP]

Re: my post about Boxing TV schedules.

After a bout of googling I happened upon this site:

http://www.badlefthook.com/fight-schedules

Exactly what I was after.

[Amirhussain]

Could get rowdy again at the next press conference...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-42...

[Amirhussain]

272BHP said:

Re: my post about Boxing TV schedules.

After a bout of googling I happened upon this site:

http://www.badlefthook.com/fight-schedules

Exactly what I was after.

I find out about a lot of upcoming fights via boxnation on Facebook.

Which (if you do) boxing related pages do people here follow on social media? I've got Gorilla Productions, Editinking, Boxing Legends TV and Boxing History. Like the pages that show old fights before my time.

[lord trumpton]

How does one get to watch Haye/Bellend?

I hve a Sky account but the sky tv subscription is no longer active

Can I pay to watch it online by purchasing from Sky?

[Yiliterate]

StuTheGrouch said:

Blimey, thanks for the lengthy response. My question seemed to have awoken some sort of ranting monster!

Ha! Not the first time I've vented spleen on here at the inconsistent, illogical or baffling decisions sanctioning bodies have made - though I'd say the WBA does seem to feature in these outburst notably more than the others.

[RumbleOfThunder]

272BHP said:

Re: my post about Boxing TV schedules.

After a bout of googling I happened upon this site:

http://www.badlefthook.com/fight-schedules

Exactly what I was after.

Good shout.

[StuTheGrouch]

lord trumpton said:

How does one get to watch Haye/Bellend?

I hve a Sky account but the sky tv subscription is no longer active

Can I pay to watch it online by purchasing from Sky?

vipleague.....

[StuTheGrouch]

Yiliterate said:

StuTheGrouch said:

Blimey, thanks for the lengthy response. My question seemed to have awoken some sort of ranting monster!

Ha! Not the first time I've vented spleen on here at the inconsistent, illogical or baffling decisions sanctioning bodies have made - though I'd say the WBA does seem to feature in these outburst notably more than the others.

The super champion thing has long been an eye-roller for me. One thing's for sure though, we will have an epic year of heavyweight boxing to look forward to should AJ and Wilder both win. Parker-Ortiz-AJ-Wilder in a four way battle to unify the division!

And Haye shouting about himself, no doubt.

[FredClogs]

RumbleOfThunder said:

tuscaneer said:

On a totally unrelated topic I see an ancient punch drunk shell of himself in Roy Jones has just knocked out the notorious Bobby gunn in 6 one sided rounds.....you know the one, the bare knuckle world champion who has never lost a bare knuckle bout??
Well old Roy has just completely mugged him off!!

He made Roy look like his old self. . He lives to get brutally knocked out another day it seems.

I thought he'd packed it in after the Enzo Mc fight, I didn't realise he was still doing this stuff... It's all a bit sad really but I guess he's a man and he'll make his own decisions, just looking through his record I'm shocked that silly wad 1993 when he and hopkins had there world title bout... 24 years ago!

Has he ever fully explained wtf he moved to Russia for and why he's still having to do this stuff? I'd love to read his story of the last decade written down properly.

[RumbleOfThunder]

FredClogs said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

tuscaneer said:

On a totally unrelated topic I see an ancient punch drunk shell of himself in Roy Jones has just knocked out the notorious Bobby gunn in 6 one sided rounds.....you know the one, the bare knuckle world champion who has never lost a bare knuckle bout??
Well old Roy has just completely mugged him off!!

He made Roy look like his old self. . He lives to get brutally knocked out another day it seems.

I thought he'd packed it in after the Enzo Mc fight, I didn't realise he was still doing this stuff... It's all a bit sad really but I guess he's a man and he'll make his own decisions, just looking through his record I'm shocked that silly wad 1993 when he and hopkins had there world title bout... 24 years ago!

Has he ever fully explained wtf he moved to Russia for and why he's still having to do this stuff? I'd love to read his story of the last decade written down properly.

A good article on him.

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/roy-jones-jr-s-br...

[FredClogs]

RumbleOfThunder said:

A good article on him.

http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/roy-jones-jr-s-br...

Yes, that's a very well written article.

[m4tti]

Tony Bellew is looking more and more worried the closer this gets.

[Amirhussain]

Contract for Hughie Fury v Parker for the WBO championship has been signed.

[StuTheGrouch]

Be interesting to see where they both are level-wise. I don't see anything special about Parker though.

[m4tti]

Well Wilder faces a hugely tougher opppnent than first anticipated. Will Washington be a tomatoe can or The new face of heavy weight boxing.

[anonymous-user]

Obvious victory owing to a world title fight being held in 'Alabama' - I see Joshua mopping up the division with ease regardless of where he fights - shame it will take 10 years when opponents are past their peak.

[lord trumpton]

Kahn vs Manny is confirmed for April 23rd!!

[Yiliterate]

lord trumpton said:

Kahn vs Manny is confirmed for April 23rd!!

Khan said he wanted a tune-up fight before taking on Brook...hell of a tune-up fight, that!