The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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Tripe Bypass said:
Looks like a very doable defence for DeGale. Fittster said:
Tripe Bypass said:
Looks like a very doable defence for DeGale. Bute moved up to light heavy after Froch and hasn't fought at Super middle since, has he? I suppose it's a question of how he manages that weight cut and how much heavier he is on the night, but Degale is not small for the division so I'm not sure it's going to be an issue - but there is a niggling doubt in my mind, De Gale has been brave to take these over seas defenses in other peoples back yards - hope he gets the rewards.
FredClogs said:
Bute moved up to light heavy after Froch and hasn't fought at Super middle since, has he? I suppose it's a question of how he manages that weight cut and how much heavier he is on the night, but Degale is not small for the division so I'm not sure it's going to be an issue - but there is a niggling doubt in my mind, De Gale has been brave to take these over seas defenses in other peoples back yards - hope he gets the rewards.
To be honest, I think this is a good risk-reward fight for DeGale. I saw Bute fight Pascal early last year and he really did look a shadow of the pre-Froch fighter. Since then, he's only fought once (nobody of any consequence), and like you say, he's having to come down in weight again, so if DeGale is being paid well to travel, I can understand him taking the fight.However, it will be interesting to see if DeGale continues to fight abroad. Maybe Matchroom don't feel he has the popularity to make the numbers stack up in terms of paying opponents to come over here...?
FredClogs said:
Bute moved up to light heavy after Froch and hasn't fought at Super middle since, has he? I suppose it's a question of how he manages that weight cut and how much heavier he is on the night, but Degale is not small for the division so I'm not sure it's going to be an issue - but there is a niggling doubt in my mind, De Gale has been brave to take these over seas defenses in other peoples back yards - hope he gets the rewards.
Has Bute fought at super middleweight since he's defeat by Froch? It looks like he's tried his luck at light heavy without much success (3 fights, with one loss). When I look at the negatives for Bute I'm seeing his relative inactivity, dropping back to supper middleweight (he must have had a reason for going up to light heavy) and he's approaching 36.
Fair play for Froch taking on Bute in front of his home fans but I feel that most of the advantages are with him,
Yiliterate said:
However, it will be interesting to see if DeGale continues to fight abroad. Maybe Matchroom don't feel he has the popularity to make the numbers stack up in terms of paying opponents to come over here...?
I don't really understand quite what a guy has to do in boxing sometimes to get a crowd interested, I suppose in Britain we get worked up about the fights, rather than the fighters - Maybe Ricky Hatton aside. That said I've only ever bought tickets to a couple of things, I'm much more interested in watching boxing at home on TV than going to see it live so I suppose people like me are half the problem for guys like Degale. I hope he comes through and gets a big wembley or vegas fight, I like him much more than Groves, it's a bit of a shame that it looks like that it's not going to happen now. Maybe Callum Smith and Degale, 18 months/ 2 years down the line if they both keep winning.Believe it or not I really went off DeGale before he fought Groves as he was being the brash talker (Groves gave it back, but it always appeared that DeGale was worse), so I was delighted when Groves beat him. Afterwards DeGale had a quieter rise to the title whereas Groves became quite an irritating character.
I actually like DeGale now and he has become a more likeable character. He is certainly respectful in how he spoke about (and to) Froch. He still clearly hates Groves.
Callum Smith is a very exciting boxer and is the future of the super-middleweight division.
It is easy to see how the general public get behind certain fighters and how they become engrossed in fights (Froch-Groves II, for example). AJ is an example- gold medalist and knocks each opponent out, which is exciting. Fury is another one, but he is mental (and hopefully one of a kind).
Sad fact is that the British public just don't see boxing much anymore. I remember as a kid it being on terrestrial TV very often with the likes of Bruno, Eubank, Benn, Lewis etc being popular sporting figures.
I actually like DeGale now and he has become a more likeable character. He is certainly respectful in how he spoke about (and to) Froch. He still clearly hates Groves.
Callum Smith is a very exciting boxer and is the future of the super-middleweight division.
It is easy to see how the general public get behind certain fighters and how they become engrossed in fights (Froch-Groves II, for example). AJ is an example- gold medalist and knocks each opponent out, which is exciting. Fury is another one, but he is mental (and hopefully one of a kind).
Sad fact is that the British public just don't see boxing much anymore. I remember as a kid it being on terrestrial TV very often with the likes of Bruno, Eubank, Benn, Lewis etc being popular sporting figures.
I like Callum and I regularly watch his fights from ringside.
In his last two fights he has moved up a tad and was unable to be as explosive as usual.
Rocky fielding is also an interesting character. he also has moved up recently and has seemed to carry power against the better opponents.
I'm at a loss why Callum is 1/3 1/4 on in their fight.
Can anyone explain why the wide divide because I don't see it ringside
In his last two fights he has moved up a tad and was unable to be as explosive as usual.
Rocky fielding is also an interesting character. he also has moved up recently and has seemed to carry power against the better opponents.
I'm at a loss why Callum is 1/3 1/4 on in their fight.
Can anyone explain why the wide divide because I don't see it ringside
Well I was distraught that I yet again missed out on a signed arturo gatti signed everlast glove. So much so I had to console myself with this signed john gully envelope post office stamped may 1833.
Gully fought Henry pierce for the heavyweight bare knuckle championship of England on 1805 and lost a close battle after 28 rounds and 77 minutes of fighting.
A year later after pierce retired gully fought bob Gregson for the title and beat him
Gully fought Henry pierce for the heavyweight bare knuckle championship of England on 1805 and lost a close battle after 28 rounds and 77 minutes of fighting.
A year later after pierce retired gully fought bob Gregson for the title and beat him
I never buy off eBay ( word of warning) ....but I do know this seller well and the certificate coupled with the post office date stamp make this a glorious piece.
I'm thinking of re framing it with lithograph print scenes drawn at the time depicting his fight with Gregson for the title in 1807
I'm thinking of re framing it with lithograph print scenes drawn at the time depicting his fight with Gregson for the title in 1807
Birkin1932 said:
I like Callum and I regularly watch his fights from ringside.
In his last two fights he has moved up a tad and was unable to be as explosive as usual.
Rocky fielding is also an interesting character. he also has moved up recently and has seemed to carry power against the better opponents.
I'm at a loss why Callum is 1/3 1/4 on in their fight.
Can anyone explain why the wide divide because I don't see it ringside
i think a lot of people had an eye on smith from the amateurs. he was commonwealth silver medalist and it was only blatant robbery that stopped him qualifying for the olympics.In his last two fights he has moved up a tad and was unable to be as explosive as usual.
Rocky fielding is also an interesting character. he also has moved up recently and has seemed to carry power against the better opponents.
I'm at a loss why Callum is 1/3 1/4 on in their fight.
Can anyone explain why the wide divide because I don't see it ringside
rocky, on the other hand was an aba finalist but never a winner. it wasn't until he burst onto the scene as a pro by wiping the floor with everyone on the prizefighter that anyone even noticed him. he was incredibly raw looking but oliver harrison is doing a good job bringing him on and he's starting to look really good.
smith has looked sensational from the get go, however , and i think a lot of what the bookies are looking at is the amateur pedigree.
for me, i like both lads but if you look at their comparitive last opponents.....brian vera was a bit of a name ( made solely on beating chavez jr who was unprepared) who was dragged out of retirement and looked to capitulate as soon as rocky started unloading whereas callum's opponent in rebrasse was a recently ousted european champ by groves. rebrasse is the real deal and smith boxed really well to overcome a hard as nails opponent,.....
based on their last fights it's in no doubt that callum had a far sterner test and i think the 12 rounds he got in versus rocky's blowout win will have put him in the driving seat for this fight.
4/1 is a bit rich but i have no quarms with smith being 2/1 on.....
it's gonna be a great fight, and i'm almost sorry someone's got to lose...
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/32474/1001930...
Carl Froch analyses the forthcoming DeGale-Bute fight by talking mainly about himself; how very like the man! In fairness, he doesn't mention a certain stadium or an attendance figure, but there is a subtle reference to the fight...can you spot it, boys and girls?!
Carl Froch analyses the forthcoming DeGale-Bute fight by talking mainly about himself; how very like the man! In fairness, he doesn't mention a certain stadium or an attendance figure, but there is a subtle reference to the fight...can you spot it, boys and girls?!
Yiliterate said:
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/32474/1001930...
Carl Froch analyses the forthcoming DeGale-Bute fight by talking mainly about himself; how very like the man! In fairness, he doesn't mention a certain stadium or an attendance figure, but there is a subtle reference to the fight...can you spot it, boys and girls?!
Ha ha, Carl's becoming a bit of a bore, there must be a book or sweep stake running in the office at Sky sports.Carl Froch analyses the forthcoming DeGale-Bute fight by talking mainly about himself; how very like the man! In fairness, he doesn't mention a certain stadium or an attendance figure, but there is a subtle reference to the fight...can you spot it, boys and girls?!
Yiliterate said:
StuTheGrouch said:
UK should have another world champion then. I really rate Murray
So do I...but I have to admit, I was very impressed with Abraham last time out against Stieglitz. Good fight...Edited by tuscaneer on Thursday 8th October 08:34
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