The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

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FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Yiliterate said:
Great card if it comes to fruition; a proper test for Joshua there:

http://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-pulev-parker-pri...
David Price vs Parker - that'll be interesting, I'd be concerned if I was Price, but I suppose the clock is ticking for him and he needs to make his mark on the division quite definitely sooner rather than later.

I've not doubt Joshua and Whyte walk through their opponents here.

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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i was watching an interview with audley harrison last week and the subject of punchers came up. who hit him hardest.....he responded that wilder punched incredibly hard but david price was far the biggest hitter he'd ever faced.
if pricey connects on anyone they are going out.


Fittster

20,120 posts

213 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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tuscaneer said:
if pricey connects on anyone they are going out.
That can just as easily be turned into 'if anyone connects on price the'sy going out.

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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FredClogs said:
tuscaneer said:
right, job done....just got meself a couple of ringside seats off derry for the october 15th card at the echo..card looks great actually with bellew v. flores and derry v. campbell at the top with price, fielding and the rest of the boys on the card as well.
Should be a great event, it's a hard one to call, I've not seen Campbell since his loss, you've got assume he's going to be a favourite due to his age and career trajectory but obviously Derry Matthews has been there and done it all and his experience on a big night with a big crowd is worth a lot, wish I was ringside.
campbell looked good last time out.i think he'll look great early on against derry but when he keeps looking over the ring between rounds and that face is smiling back at him i think he'll get a bit disheartened. derry is already looking in great shape in the gym with 6 weeks to go. the winner of this fight gets to have a crack at crolla or linares depending on who wins that one.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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tuscaneer said:
i was watching an interview with audley harrison last week and the subject of punchers came up. who hit him hardest.....he responded that wilder punched incredibly hard but david price was far the biggest hitter he'd ever faced.
if pricey connects on anyone they are going out.
Oh well, if Audley Harrison said so it must be true ;o)

I'm not doing Price down (I think his chin is suspect though) I was just a bit surprised he would consider the match up given that I don't think his career could stand another knock out loss and Parker is very skilled, young and hungry. But it should catapult the winner into a title eliminator, maybe, so perhaps it's a risk worth taking.

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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Fittster said:
tuscaneer said:
if pricey connects on anyone they are going out.
That can just as easily be turned into 'if anyone connects on price the'sy going out.
can't argue with that pal.....he needs to study tapes of wladimir. stick it all behind that big jab, keep pumping it out and BRING YOUR fkING HAND BACK TO YOUR CHIN.......a lazy jab at that size is a guaranteed curtain closer if your whiskers are shaky

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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FredClogs said:
Oh well, if Audley Harrison said so it must be true ;o)

I'm not doing Price down (I think his chin is suspect though) I was just a bit surprised he would consider the match up given that I don't think his career could stand another knock out loss and Parker is very skilled, young and hungry. But it should catapult the winner into a title eliminator, maybe, so perhaps it's a risk worth taking.
audley seems to be an expert in getting ttted so when questioned about who ttted you the hardest i think he's more qualified than most to ansrwer!!laugh

just said it above but if pricey perfected that disciplined jab and could detonate the back hand from safety he'd be a formidable proposition for anyone. he can do it. i've seen him do it. he just seems to switch off at times. like when he backed out against tepur with his lead down and his shoulders back

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

206 months

Wednesday 31st August 2016
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FredClogs said:
tuscaneer said:
i was watching an interview with audley harrison last week and the subject of punchers came up. who hit him hardest.....he responded that wilder punched incredibly hard but david price was far the biggest hitter he'd ever faced.
if pricey connects on anyone they are going out.
Oh well, if Audley Harrison said so it must be true ;o)

I'm not doing Price down (I think his chin is suspect though) I was just a bit surprised he would consider the match up given that I don't think his career could stand another knock out loss and Parker is very skilled, young and hungry. But it should catapult the winner into a title eliminator, maybe, so perhaps it's a risk worth taking.
For me, that's a big hurdle Hearn will face in getting this card set up; Joshua is already IBF #1 contender and is being announced as mandatory for AJ's belt with the fight to take place by 9th Jan 2017. So Parker would be risking his shot at a world title by taking on Price, and with someone who hits as hard as Price, it's a very real risk.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/exclusive-ibf-set-...

However, if Hearn can persuade Parker to fight Price - and if AJ can come through against Pulev, which is not a given - then Hearn will have played a blinder! If Parker wins, it will raise his profile/credibility significantly, making the mandatory with AJ that much more sellable. However, if Price wins, that should see him catapult up the rankings and potentially take the mandatory slot, in which case there's a massive domestic showdown in the offing! Alternatively, if Price wins but doesn't get given the mandatory, with Parker and Pulev both beaten, next up in the IBF rankings is a certain D.Haye...lining up an even bigger domestic showdown (as long as Haye is willing to fight for a challenger's purse)!!!

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Some great additions to the GGG v Brook card. Really up for this now!

dirty boy

14,699 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Anyone got any thoughts on Brook v GGG?

I've got this tiny little niggle in the back of my head, saying Brook can win.

He's technically very good and if he can 'get on his bike' for the entire fight and not get caught (possible?) he could pinch a decision.

I see it as the only viable option to Kell, so he has to adopt it, meaning he could actually do it?

Or am I mad?


GGG smashes him in rounds 4-7 doesn't he!? hehe

StuTheGrouch

5,735 posts

162 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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When the fight was first announced I immediately thought Brook was going to be demolished inside 3-4 rounds. Now, having seen how he's bulked up and given it a lot more thought, I too think he can actually pull this off. I really, really hope he does. Brook has nothing to lose here though unless he is completely wiped out. Take it to rounds 7 and above before being stopped = respect. Lose on points = mega respect. Win = well, take a nice leap up the P4P rankings! In all cases he is still the welterweight champ.

No disrespect to Murray intended, but he took GGG into unknown territory. Murray is taller and has a longer reach than Brook, but is (in my opinion) not as rounded as Brook is. Brook has a more solid defence and can punch.

GGG is clearly the favourite, and rightly so, but Brook isn't to be written off.

lord trumpton

7,405 posts

126 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I disagree smile

Whilst brook is taking this seriously by bulking up, what he can't do is prepare his head for the far heavier punches. Not only is he jumping two weight divisions, he is taking on one of the most talented and hardest hitting pugilists of that division.

His gained weight will slow brook down - GGG will pick him apart and then knock him out before round Five

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Brook is a phenomenal talent with great punch variety and decent movement. He can bang a bit as well.at welterweight. Golovkin fked kovalev in sparring.and he's a big light heavy.
The story of this fight is going to be how long it takes golovkin to shut him down with foot pressure. And I think that will be between rounds 2 and 4

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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I'm really looking forward to this now. The atmosphere will be electric. My first fight in a few years. I know I should be supporting Brook but GGG is the man for me. A shining light in a murky sport. Brook is giving himself a shot by his terrific preparation but it won't be enough. No-one bangs like GGG. Round 6-7 for me but earlier if Brook comes out swinging.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

206 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Personally, I feel there are too many unknowns around Brook to be able to come up with a firm view. I'd say a fully-fledged Middleweight version of the Welterweight Kell Brook would be in with a very real possibility of winning the contest. However, though he will be there in size, we won't know how his power, speed, agility, stamina, durability, etc will have translated until the fight itself is progressing. As such, if I were a betting man, I'd be going with Golovkin because you've got a fair idea of what you're getting with him (other than perhaps a question mark over how he'll get on with a genuine top-drawer opponent, which he hasn't really faced to date)...and what you get is pretty damned good!

dirty boy

14,699 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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It's an interesting fight nonetheless.

Like I said, the more I think about it, Kell simply has to be on the move and very fking elusive (pardon my french) in every round.

Due to the massive danger, he won't take a chance and I think he's go a lot better footwork than anyone GGG has faced before. I think it could be really difficult for GGG to look good in this fight.

Still think GGG wins, but not by the margins I originally had in my had (ie KO'd very quickly)


Birkin1932

784 posts

139 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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Brook 5lb heavier than GGG at prelim weigh in. Interesting if he's kept his speed

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Come on derry!!!



tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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Birkin1932 said:
Brook 5lb heavier than GGG at prelim weigh in. Interesting if he's kept his speed
He looks massive in the photos I've seen.....he's still never been hit by a middleweight before though....let alone ggg!

briangriffin

1,586 posts

168 months

Saturday 3rd September 2016
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tuscaneer said:
He looks massive in the photos I've seen.....he's still never been hit by a middleweight before though....let alone ggg!
He sparred Froch a lot apparently, but I know what you mean, 10oz gloves are a lot different to 16's and a head guard.

GGG in 4 or 5 imo. what you think?

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