The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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tuscaneer said:
Amirhussain said:
Tyson Fury has pulled out of the rematch with Klitschko....saying his suffered another injury
what a f
king lying, scheming, drug cheating scum bag. I said from the get go that he knew wlad would wreck him in a return and would wriggle out of the fight. He shouldn't even have the belts after the nandralone incident.best bet now is to strip the
and let someone else fight wladimir for them. Joshua would do it.let's get it ongreygoose said:
tuscaneer said:
Amirhussain said:
Tyson Fury has pulled out of the rematch with Klitschko....saying his suffered another injury
what a fking lying, scheming, drug cheating scum bag. I said from the get go that he knew wlad would wreck him in a return and would wriggle out of the fight. He shouldn't even have the belts after the nandralone incident.best bet now is to strip the
and let someone else fight wladimir for them. Joshua would do it.let's get it onmikebradford said:
What's the bets on fury losing the belts, then taking a fight with haye.
As I think fury doesn't have the motivation anymore.
But will at some point need some more money, and a haye fight even without titles would probably pay well
Fingers crossed it is nothing more that just lack of motivation; Fury's mental wellbeing has been an issue previously...As I think fury doesn't have the motivation anymore.
But will at some point need some more money, and a haye fight even without titles would probably pay well
Dan rafael seems to have some inside knowledge. He says it is a mental health issue and fury won't fight "for the forseable future"....If true it's quite sad but the heavyweight division must continue. They need to allow someone else to fight for the belts
Interestingly ortiz would be in line for the wba and Parker for the wbo.
either of those versus wlad would be great fights.k2 are already setting up the o2 world in hamburg for December 10th...I read somewhere else that fury could be made champion emeritus like vitali was for the wbc. At least then should he ever fight again he could jump straight in....there's a little niggle for me that there might be more to the fury drugs story than we've been lead to believe. Hope I'm wrong on that
Interestingly ortiz would be in line for the wba and Parker for the wbo.
either of those versus wlad would be great fights.k2 are already setting up the o2 world in hamburg for December 10th...I read somewhere else that fury could be made champion emeritus like vitali was for the wbc. At least then should he ever fight again he could jump straight in....there's a little niggle for me that there might be more to the fury drugs story than we've been lead to believe. Hope I'm wrong on that
I know Fury has hinted in the past he has mental health issues and perhaps some of his behaviour and lifestyle show as much but I'm not sure that not wanting to box Klitschko is a sign of mental illness. I'm not motivated to get in the ring with Klitschko either, that doesn't mean I'm suffering mental health issues.
FredClogs said:
I know Fury has hinted in the past he has mental health issues and perhaps some of his behaviour and lifestyle show as much but I'm not sure that not wanting to box Klitschko is a sign of mental illness. I'm not motivated to get in the ring with Klitschko either, that doesn't mean I'm suffering mental health issues.
I'd be more worried about your mental state if you WERE motivated to get in there with klitschko!tuscaneer said:
FredClogs said:
I know Fury has hinted in the past he has mental health issues and perhaps some of his behaviour and lifestyle show as much but I'm not sure that not wanting to box Klitschko is a sign of mental illness. I'm not motivated to get in the ring with Klitschko either, that doesn't mean I'm suffering mental health issues.
I'd be more worried about your mental state if you WERE motivated to get in there with klitschko!
So fury klitschko off again.
The last time it was called off with ankle problems, he was still fine to go to the Euros and have a few beers, rather than put his feet up.
He could end up one of our longest reigning world heavyweight champions at this rate.
If you can't get yourself fit to fight within a certain time lframe, i think you should lose the belts.
I hope he doesn't retire.
AJ beats him, Klit (if he actually throws a punch) will beat him.
The last time it was called off with ankle problems, he was still fine to go to the Euros and have a few beers, rather than put his feet up.
He could end up one of our longest reigning world heavyweight champions at this rate.
If you can't get yourself fit to fight within a certain time lframe, i think you should lose the belts.
I hope he doesn't retire.
AJ beats him, Klit (if he actually throws a punch) will beat him.
Edited by philv on Saturday 24th September 12:28
Burwood said:
No doubt the human turd is capable of fighting and will lose if he did, but I can't work out why he doesn't just get it over with, demand a huge payday and it's all over. Now he risks getting nothing.
Really don't know where you're coming from with that statement. Leave aside the unnecessary unpleasantness in it, the two of them have fought before you know; Fury won and won by a pretty clear margin. Klitschko looked to be in good physical shape going into that fight and didn't appear to get injured during it either. Simply, Fury out-boxed him. The one mitigating factor suggested at the time was Klitschko's own frame of mind; and that was more related to his partner's mental wellbeing than his own...Edited by Yiliterate on Saturday 24th September 12:57
Yiliterate said:
Burwood said:
No doubt the human turd is capable of fighting and will lose if he did, but I can't work out why he doesn't just get it over with, demand a huge payday and it's all over. Now he risks getting nothing.
Really don't know where you're coming from with that statement. Leave aside the unnecessary unpleasantness in it, the two of them have fought before you know; Fury won and won by a pretty clear margin. Klitschko looked to be in good physical shape going into that fight and didn't appear to get injured during it either. Simply, Fury out-boxed him. The one mitigating factor suggested at the time was Klitschko's own frame of mind; and that was more related to his partner's mental wellbeing than his own...Edited by Yiliterate on Saturday 24th September 12:57
Burwood said:
Yiliterate said:
Burwood said:
No doubt the human turd is capable of fighting and will lose if he did, but I can't work out why he doesn't just get it over with, demand a huge payday and it's all over. Now he risks getting nothing.
Really don't know where you're coming from with that statement. Leave aside the unnecessary unpleasantness in it, the two of them have fought before you know; Fury won and won by a pretty clear margin. Klitschko looked to be in good physical shape going into that fight and didn't appear to get injured during it either. Simply, Fury out-boxed him. The one mitigating factor suggested at the time was Klitschko's own frame of mind; and that was more related to his partner's mental wellbeing than his own...Edited by Yiliterate on Saturday 24th September 12:57
Look, I don't really mean to have a pop; it's just that this forum is by far and away the best place to discuss boxing that I've come across anywhere on the internet, and a key reason for that is very rarely does it descend into name-calling - either in respect of the fighters or between the various posters. It would just be a shame for it to go the way of pretty much every other boxing forum I've been on.
Yeah, okay, I realise that a few posts further up, tuscaneer uses some pretty strong language as well, but there was an outside chance he'd been hitting the meths when he wrote that...honestly, keep him away from the paint thinners and he's probably the most lucid, well-informed poster on here!
Yiliterate said:
Actually, you're right. The basic point of your post was so sweeping and unsubstantiated that without adding the attention-grabbing personal insult, it would barely have registered; so I agree, not 'unnecessary'.
Look, I don't really mean to have a pop; it's just that this forum is by far and away the best place to discuss boxing that I've come across anywhere on the internet, and a key reason for that is very rarely does it descend into name-calling - either in respect of the fighters or between the various posters. It would just be a shame for it to go the way of pretty much every other boxing forum I've been on.
Yeah, okay, I realise that a few posts further up, tuscaneer uses some pretty strong language as well, but there was an outside chance he'd been hitting the meths when he wrote that...honestly, keep him away from the paint thinners and he's probably the most lucid, well-informed poster on here!
ha!....I believe the medical term is "red wine rage".....my gut reaction to the news was to vent then smash the house up....but in all seriousness when I read the Dan Rafael report this morning it did make me think....IF it's genuine mental health issues you have to think it's best all round that he can't fight. Can you imagine the ramifications if anything terrible happened and his team knew there were issues?Look, I don't really mean to have a pop; it's just that this forum is by far and away the best place to discuss boxing that I've come across anywhere on the internet, and a key reason for that is very rarely does it descend into name-calling - either in respect of the fighters or between the various posters. It would just be a shame for it to go the way of pretty much every other boxing forum I've been on.
Yeah, okay, I realise that a few posts further up, tuscaneer uses some pretty strong language as well, but there was an outside chance he'd been hitting the meths when he wrote that...honestly, keep him away from the paint thinners and he's probably the most lucid, well-informed poster on here!
There is a part of me , the super cynical scouser, that can't help but feel the drugs issue has more to it than we originally thought and this is a convenient way of getting out of it all.
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