The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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I don't think this has been posted yet - https://youtu.be/WBtXFEorX50
Pretty obvious from the first few mins that the rematch is never going to happen now. A shame for Klitchko that he won't get a chance to even the score.
Not sure if AJ is ready and would be very surprised to see that happen at such short notice.
Pretty obvious from the first few mins that the rematch is never going to happen now. A shame for Klitchko that he won't get a chance to even the score.
Not sure if AJ is ready and would be very surprised to see that happen at such short notice.
GoodwoodRS4 said:
I don't think this has been posted yet - https://youtu.be/WBtXFEorX50
Pretty obvious from the first few mins that the rematch is never going to happen now. A shame for Klitchko that he won't get a chance to even the score.
Not sure if AJ is ready and would be very surprised to see that happen at such short notice.
Personally, I'd say it was a bigger shame for Fury than Wlad...Pretty obvious from the first few mins that the rematch is never going to happen now. A shame for Klitchko that he won't get a chance to even the score.
Not sure if AJ is ready and would be very surprised to see that happen at such short notice.
Really interesting interview, though I felt Peter Fury's assertion that Tyson's current frame of mind is essentially as a consequence of how he has been treated since winning the titles last year was somewhat selective. Tyson's words from 2011:
"There is a name for what I have," he says, "where, one minute I'm happy, and the next minute I'm sad, like commit-suicide-sad. And for no reason – nothing's changed."
Sitting in his armchair, wearing a vest and shorts, Fury looks at me evenly. "One minute I'm over the moon and the next minute I feel like getting in my car and running it into a wall at a hundred miles an hour. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm messed up."
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/nov/05/tyso...
Just to add.....He certainly didn't look like he had a care in the world at the arena last night supporting hosea Burton... The same arena he should be fighting in in about 4 weeks...With this and being seen dancing and drinking after the "ankle injury"....He really doesn't do himself any favours does he
I'd wager, the lifting of the ban to fight is only temporary. You see the drug he tested positive is a steroid used in people with muscle wasting diseases. It's not like, on I took a flew med. he will be found guilty almost certainly. How else did it get there. Is this a witch hunt?. The results would be his fight would be voided along with the cash so he thinks wtf, no point is there.
He will run off to rehab, get clean then face the music. And as for poor Tyson being disrespected. Is this the man who made anti gay, anti woman and anti Jew comments? He must be mentally I'll.
He will run off to rehab, get clean then face the music. And as for poor Tyson being disrespected. Is this the man who made anti gay, anti woman and anti Jew comments? He must be mentally I'll.
It's good of Eddie Hearn to give his full and frank opinion on the Tyson Fury situation to the BBC ;o) If he is mentally ill and depressed rather than just being a knob then every sympathy to him and his team and I guess you have to say he's lucky, as Peter Fury was saying in that interview a lot of fighters not surrounded by a close family team would be forced into the ring or maybe never would have got this far.
I fear Eddie's right, this will end in court cases and probably Tyson's financial ruin, the Klitchkos are pretty savvy by now and I suspect they won't show him much sympathy, he hasn't exactly won over a lot of people. It's a shame but could be worse for Tyson. He did once say he'd run to be the MP of Morecombe once he retired... Should be entertaining at least!
I fear Eddie's right, this will end in court cases and probably Tyson's financial ruin, the Klitchkos are pretty savvy by now and I suspect they won't show him much sympathy, he hasn't exactly won over a lot of people. It's a shame but could be worse for Tyson. He did once say he'd run to be the MP of Morecombe once he retired... Should be entertaining at least!
FredClogs said:
It's good of Eddie Hearn to give his full and frank opinion on the Tyson Fury situation to the BBC ;o) If he is mentally ill and depressed rather than just being a knob then every sympathy to him and his team and I guess you have to say he's lucky, as Peter Fury was saying in that interview a lot of fighters not surrounded by a close family team would be forced into the ring or maybe never would have got this far.
I fear Eddie's right, this will end in court cases and probably Tyson's financial ruin, the Klitchkos are pretty savvy by now and I suspect they won't show him much sympathy, he hasn't exactly won over a lot of people. It's a shame but could be worse for Tyson. He did once say he'd run to be the MP of Morecombe once he retired... Should be entertaining at least!
i think we may have seen a far more sympathetic response from K2 if there hadn't already been the bullsI fear Eddie's right, this will end in court cases and probably Tyson's financial ruin, the Klitchkos are pretty savvy by now and I suspect they won't show him much sympathy, he hasn't exactly won over a lot of people. It's a shame but could be worse for Tyson. He did once say he'd run to be the MP of Morecombe once he retired... Should be entertaining at least!
t with the foot injury and then all the positive drugs test fiasco.the fact that wladimir is as old as me and this is his most inactive period as a pro since he turned over 20 years ago.....for reasons that were not of his doing....well, i would be doing exactly what he's doing now if i were in his shoes.
tuscaneer said:
which is an absolute violation with one outcome. A 2 year ban. So they have the sample which is a banning offence and now a refusal. Just playing devils advocate but it looks like he is fine, just doped up. So he can't fight or allow more tests until he goes to 'rehab' and gets it out of his system. His problem is that Nandrolone can be detected 12 months after it has been taken even though it has a 6 day half life. Naturally he will litigate. So now they have him on a rule violation and a failed test. A test which has never been refuted successfully.It is impossible for Nandrolone to be introduced in any other way than by 'taking it'.I find it staggering that someone with furys resources, would get caught out by juicing with Deca (nandrolone). Surely he'd have someone on board that would be planning this all out and have him on something like testosterone proprionate, which would be in and out in a day.
Passing these tests is a separate science, clearly one they havent mastered.
Pulling the mental card out might buy him a bit more time.
Imagine joe Frazier or George foreman coming up with the same excuse and saying they're not appreciated. Ali effectively turned countries against these guys.. All they wanted to do was pummel him inside a boxing ring.
I think the whole klitschko fury thing has been fishy all along. I never liked klitschko having a politically exposed member of his corner, and lots of bizarre betting came out of the Ukraine.
Passing these tests is a separate science, clearly one they havent mastered.
Pulling the mental card out might buy him a bit more time.
Imagine joe Frazier or George foreman coming up with the same excuse and saying they're not appreciated. Ali effectively turned countries against these guys.. All they wanted to do was pummel him inside a boxing ring.
I think the whole klitschko fury thing has been fishy all along. I never liked klitschko having a politically exposed member of his corner, and lots of bizarre betting came out of the Ukraine.
tuscaneer said:
Genuine question pal....what makes you say exposed?.. assuming you're talking about vitali?...he's long been a campaigner for exposure of corruption in Ukraine and has been very vocal since the orange revolution about his desire for transparency and democracy in ukranian politics
When i say exposed, that is a term used to describe political involvement. Typically people who are politically exposed are segregated from activities that are easily open to corruption. Vitali has always made it clear his aim is to be president of the ukraine. Successful political campaigns require large amounts of funding.He is staunchly against Putin, patriotic of the ukraine and is happy to defend his country. Obviously defence again requires funding.. something the ukraine isn't coming down in. Add to that the large amounts of money at the very last minute being placed by people from the ukraine (to the tune of 20 million) for klitschko to lose, you can see how quite easily there was an opportunity for manipulation.
The other thing i found surprising was his attitude after the fight in news conferences "we lost, we'll win it back" with a wry smile on his face.. very different to the previous losses.
As for fury failed drug test, I have no idea why they even bother testing when Lucas Browne was identified as having Clenbuterol in his system, and given a six month suspension.. he probably had a six month break planned any way lol
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