The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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A good even fight. I had Degale by 1 round but the majority draw decision would be a fair result for me. Degale started strong and got the knock down but as per usual ran out gas in the later rounds. Jack has a good engine on him and was certainly the fresher looking fighter at the end, Degale definitely got caught with some spiteful shots in the last 3 rounds.
It is so frustrating watching Degale knowing he has the quality and the movement but if he keeps going to sleep and switching off for periods of fights at a world level he isn't going to get the wins. He doesn't really have the power to KO the top guys in the division so if he is going to out box the top guys he needs to keep it going all fight.
Listening to the post fight interviews in the ring, Degale wants to rematch but Mayweather wants Jack to move up in weight class. Not a bad move as the big fights don't appear to be at Super Middleweight at the moment. The best two fighters in the division got it on tonight so there won't be any bigger pay days for Jack but Degale could make some money against Groves or Smith.
It is so frustrating watching Degale knowing he has the quality and the movement but if he keeps going to sleep and switching off for periods of fights at a world level he isn't going to get the wins. He doesn't really have the power to KO the top guys in the division so if he is going to out box the top guys he needs to keep it going all fight.
Listening to the post fight interviews in the ring, Degale wants to rematch but Mayweather wants Jack to move up in weight class. Not a bad move as the big fights don't appear to be at Super Middleweight at the moment. The best two fighters in the division got it on tonight so there won't be any bigger pay days for Jack but Degale could make some money against Groves or Smith.
I'm surprised not one official scorecard had it to Jack. I thought it was pretty even going into the last, maybe a round either way. Certainly felt the first card was wide; put it this way, if DeGale hadn't gone down and instead had shaded the round, that card would have had him winning by 5...!
I thought it was a great display of guts and fortitude by DeGale but also was a reminder that he isn't quite the silky-skilled, slick boxer that his reputation would indicate. Once he gets past his initial freshness in a fight, quite a lot of his attacks are wild, winging shots (nothing particularly wrong in that per se, given he has long arms for a Super-Middleweight and that plays to his physical advantage), but begins to look crude for a 'slickster' against a solid and tight defence (where the majority of that is taken on the arms and gloves), particularly when the opponent can then counter with something tidy.
Here's a question I found myself asking at the end of the fight...money aside, if I were Callum Smith, who out of those two would I want in the opposite corner when finally fighting for a world title? What do you guys think...?
I thought it was a great display of guts and fortitude by DeGale but also was a reminder that he isn't quite the silky-skilled, slick boxer that his reputation would indicate. Once he gets past his initial freshness in a fight, quite a lot of his attacks are wild, winging shots (nothing particularly wrong in that per se, given he has long arms for a Super-Middleweight and that plays to his physical advantage), but begins to look crude for a 'slickster' against a solid and tight defence (where the majority of that is taken on the arms and gloves), particularly when the opponent can then counter with something tidy.
Here's a question I found myself asking at the end of the fight...money aside, if I were Callum Smith, who out of those two would I want in the opposite corner when finally fighting for a world title? What do you guys think...?
Yiliterate said:
Here's a question I found myself asking at the end of the fight...money aside, if I were Callum Smith, who out of those two would I want in the opposite corner when finally fighting for a world title? What do you guys think...?
Its a strange one. Jack is more orthodox than Degale. Smith would fancy either of them right now I'd suggest, neither have huge power, Degale can't put together the quality he has for 12 rounds. Jack is less awkward to setup for but has an engine on him and could be dangerous for the full fight. I'd say he'd rather have a go at Jack on account of the reach advantage, ability to over power him and that he is a bit more predictable. Someone needs to take a look at Degale though, he turned up in good condition and made the weight easy but why does he always run out of gas? Is he better stepping up in weight division? More fights for him right now at Super Middleweight though so bad timing to do it before he's fought Smith or Groves back in the UK.
Watched the 3 fights just now. Fantastic fights all of them.
A draw was a fair result - normally I like to weight up the odds as if there was going to be a round 13 and that would have emphatically gone to Jack but I felt deGale won rounds 9,10 and 11 and I had him 1 ahead going into the 12th.
They both go on with reputations enhanced and box-office draw factor increased - Eddie particularly, will be licking his lips.
A draw was a fair result - normally I like to weight up the odds as if there was going to be a round 13 and that would have emphatically gone to Jack but I felt deGale won rounds 9,10 and 11 and I had him 1 ahead going into the 12th.
They both go on with reputations enhanced and box-office draw factor increased - Eddie particularly, will be licking his lips.
TerryThomas said:
It seems Canelo can put on the weight to meet Chávez but not GGG...
An absolutely colossal fight between the most popular Mexican fighter of his generation and the bearer of probably the most famous name in Mexican boxing history (but very likely a fading force), all on the Cinco de Mayo weekend...if I were Alvarez, I think I'd be willing to get on the Krispy Kremes for that one as well!Yiliterate said:
TerryThomas said:
It seems Canelo can put on the weight to meet Chávez but not GGG...
An absolutely colossal fight between the most popular Mexican fighter of his generation and the bearer of probably the most famous name in Mexican boxing history (but very likely a fading force), all on the Cinco de Mayo weekend...if I were Alvarez, I think I'd be willing to get on the Krispy Kremes for that one as well!Yiliterate said:
TerryThomas said:
It seems Canelo can put on the weight to meet Chávez but not GGG...
An absolutely colossal fight between the most popular Mexican fighter of his generation and the bearer of probably the most famous name in Mexican boxing history (but very likely a fading force), all on the Cinco de Mayo weekend...if I were Alvarez, I think I'd be willing to get on the Krispy Kremes for that one as well!I don't think GGG v Canelo will ever happen.
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