The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

[tuscaneer]

Actually, there's half a dozen excellent fights in that little mix!!...

I can see the attraction for degale....and everyone will earn handsomely in that little round robin

[272BHP]

So the Eubank Jr fight on ITV box office is making a big push for our 10 pounds.

Who's biting? I dislike pay per view on SKY because I already pay them a bloody fortune anyway and another 17 pounds every couple of months is galling but I don't like to miss out and Eddie normally puts out a strong card.

But 10 pounds for a mildly interesting Eubank fight? I am thinking that is a step too far.

[StuTheGrouch]

I won't be paying for it. To be honest I'd forgotten he was even fighting- I dislike the guy greatly.

[tuscaneer]

If he was fighting a guy of any relevance then I'd happily pay for it.....but I'm not getting involved for this guy.. on the Robbie Davies Jr card last night on itv4 they were plugging it really really hard but the fans ain't stupid
There's no way they will be able to con anyone into thinking quinlan is a viable opponent....ibo belt or not

Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 22 January 10:42

[Amirhussain]

Liam Smith and Liam Williams look set to fight it out for the WBO light-middleweight championship. Canelo holds it at the moment but likely to drop the belt when he faces Chavez Jr.

[hyphen]

tuscaneer said:

Zammy said:

Have to agree with tuscaneer, always supported Khan but the home life drama and now the vid is all getting a bit silly, he needs to sort it out quick and then a set a date with Kell. Don't want him to him to use his personal life as an excuse if he loses(more than likely even though I want him to win) to Kell!

i'd always favoured khan's speed to get him the win......but after a few years waiting and watching kell improve i reckon if they fought now kell stops him late on

You haters...

Khan is training so hard he won't even miss a workout for his brothers wedding this weekend. Considering he doesn't even have an opponent yet...what a wk thing to do.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4144840/Am...

[Having A Barth]

Khan vs. Brook talks break down when a 50-50 split was on the table.

This really is boiling my p*ss now. This is probably the best chance both have had to align their schedules for a fight with no real standout alternative fighters to generate a bigger pay day for either of them.

[Purso]

from the outside it does seem like kell is being pragmatic and amir is being a bit silly. That said my main source of info is from eddie hearn which gives one angle from ifl tv etc

[andburg]

Khan still thinks hes a big name.

Lets play reversal, I'm sure Kell would be up for it....

Canelo Vs Brook
GGG Vs Khan

split purse based on number of rounds completed by each accross the 2 fights

[Yiliterate]

andburg said:

Khan still thinks hes a big name.

Lets play reversal, I'm sure Kell would be up for it....

Canelo Vs Brook
GGG Vs Khan

split purse based on number of rounds completed by each accross the 2 fights

Unfortunately, being the better fighter doesn't necessarily equate to being a bigger box office draw; and it's the latter that usually holds sway in terms of financial negotiations. The thing is, I can see both sides' perspective. From a UK-centric viewpoint my gut feeling is it probably is about a 50-50 fight now. I'd say Khan still holds the broader recognition but Brook now maybe has a slightly higher standing amongst sports enthusiasts.

However, from a global perspective, especially a North American perspective, Khan is probably still the bigger draw (though the Golovkin fight would have helped in terms of Brook's profile...but only to a certain extent as Golovkin himself still doesn't have a 'mega' profile in North America - hence why the fight with Brook made more sense taking place in the UK), so I can see why Khan's arguing he's still the A-side of the fight overall.

There again, having a world title at stake gives the fight some real substance and it's Brook bringing a belt to the table...but that said, as Haye and Bellew will probably evidence, with enough grudge and hype surrounding it, titles aren't necessarily crucial.

Long and short of it, it was never going to be the easiest fight to negotiate so the current stalemate was always a possibility, but I'm still hopeful something can be agreed. Maybe 50/50 split of purse attributable to UK revenues and 70/30 for international...something like that?

[Chad_Hugo]

Khan's ego, greed and extremely high opinion of himself has always been the main barrier to this fight happening.

He has always wanted a split that is just ridiculous and that no self respecting opponent would accept.

Yes, he is a bigger name than Brook but he's been knocked out and embarrassed in the ring far too many times, has no belt, and would get destroyed by Brook.

I have my doubts it will ever happen, if not in 2017 then probably we won't ever see it.

[hyphen]

If Khan gets a bad knockout then his career will be over, so from a risk perspective he can't accept 50-50 I would say.

I am surprised he is even considering the fight, I imagined he would have left it stew for a couple of years more and become his retirement fight like Mayweather did with Manny.

[FredClogs]

I think Yiliterate is right above the only way to solve this would be to negotiate a 50/50 on the UK PPV and larger split of the money gained from international income, it's clear Khan is a much bigger draw in America and the sub continent.

I've never understood the hate for Khan, he's a very skilled boxer, seems like a nice enough bloke, he handled fame and money at a young age as well as you could expect (not perfectly but who is) I don't believe he's ever ducked anyone, he may have spent too much time chasing Mayweather but other than that his career's been handled well, he's made a lot of money too.

He's lost 4, 1 bad knockout to Prescot that was a bit of a freak punch that showed his inexperience, one SD loss to a drugs cheat, one TKO to a very good fighter in Garcia and one heavy knock out to a guy twice his size...

[RumbleOfThunder]

I think a 60/40 split to Khan needs to be negotiated. I see that as a straight forward win for Kell, one not worth missing out on for the sake of ego's.

[StuTheGrouch]

Brook should offer the little wker 25:25, with the winner taking the remaining 50%.

Personally, if I was Brook then I'd take the fight at any split, 10% of a whole fk load of cash is possibly more than he would make from any other available event.

[Yiliterate]

Yiliterate said:

Yiliterate said:

FredClogs said:

I doubt Lucas Browne is the only one of this new crop of heavyweight competition who's going to get popped.

Spot on there, this coming a week after Stiverne failed a test ahead of his fight with Povetkin...

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/18050121/b...

This is just getting fking ridiculous now:

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkin-vs-stiverne-wb...

Another Wilder opponent gets caught. Looks like the WBC's testing policy is biting...

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/wilder-opponent-fa...

[tuscaneer]

brook asked for 50-50....khan asked for 70-30......

i think a 60-40 split in favour of khan should be agreeable by everyone. like him or loathe him ( and my unwavering support has subsided a lot!) khan is undoubtedly the bigger draw both in the uk and globally. he's hit the casuals in a way that brook has not...

this fight is a mega fight and both will earn millions from it. 40% of a fking big pie is still far more than 70 or 80% of non event against an unknown contender

[tuscaneer]

Sam eggington versus Pauli malignaggi added to the Haye bellew bill

I can't see Sam laying a glove on him tbh

[FredClogs]

tuscaneer said:

Sam eggington versus Pauli malignaggi added to the Haye bellew bill

I can't see Sam laying a glove on him tbh

Hmmm, that's a tricky one. To be honest I'd be quite happy to see Pauli work his craft on the other side of the ring, he's a great commentator and pundit who would be well advised to stay away from hungry young up and comers, Pauli's had a great career. Eggington is awkward and can bang, I thought he looked really good against and aging Frankie Gavin.

[RumbleOfThunder]

Paulie is pretty shot. I expect Egg to stop him late.