The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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Eubank Jr took apart Quinlan there.
He really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
He really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
272BHP said:
Eubank Jr took apart Quinlan there.
He really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
Agreed, and wow Quinlan has a heck of a chinHe really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
I really hope Price retires now. He just hasn't got it upstairs. It seems that since he totally gassed out against Thompson, they've tried to rebuild him, but his body just cannot do rounds, so his conditioning coaches have chanced their arm on him being able to blast people out with his power. He's risking getting seriously hurt if he carries on because he just retreats to the ropes when the tank is empty.
272BHP said:
Eubank Jr took apart Quinlan there.
He really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
It's easy to look world class when his fighting nobody's!!He really is a curious fighter: wild shots, arrhythmic timing and a terrifyingly hurtful puncher without really possessing knockout power. He has also clearly turned into a true 12 round fighter as he looked fresh and strong and with boundless energy all the way through the fight.
Truth is, I don't think any one in the 2 divisions would relish fighting him particularly - just too damn awkward and clearly not afraid to get hit either.
Amirhussain said:
It's easy to look world class when his fighting nobody's!!
I don't begrudge the career path that the Eubanks are taking. This is a hurtful business and at 27 his best years are still ahead of him. Prizefighters are not like other sportsmen and risk management must come into play by their management team - maximise career earnings and minimise physical damage over that term.I hate to see comments where people say fighters are ducking other guys and that they are scared of moving up. This shows a complete lack of understanding of the psychological makeup of elite boxers (particularly elite boxers who have never taken a beating in the ring)- they would not only be willing to fight King Kong if the money was right they would genuinely believe they had a chance to win.
I see and hear lots of criticism of Eubank Snr but he is simply a dad looking after his boy.
Quite a good night of boxing, especially the main event.
Price- just embarrassing, should be ashamed of himself, which he probably is. Hanging over the ropes next to his corner like a dead weight, so fatigued after 5-6 rounds he could barely move, then after that hanging on again, face down trying to catch his breath, giving his opponent open shots to his head. He was so tired he didn't even care about being hit, not sure he knew where he was!!
After the fight I remember he wasn't able to stand either, just sat on his chair with his head down. Can't be allowed to box again, can't be called a professional boxer when you are in such a poor physical condition. If your breathing with your mouth open and struggling at the end of round 2 you should not be allowed to box professionally- for your own healthy and safety above all else.
Chris Eubank Jr- took Quinlan apart really. Battered him from the off, never gave him a chance. His fitness levels and stamina considering he had injuries and was out of intensive training for some time are brilliant, got to be one of the very best athletes in boxing. Looked very, very fresh and dangerous round 10- could have kept going for 4-5 more rounds quite comfortably I am sure. The speed of his punching is brilliant, he's also willing to stand toe to toe and trade. Looks able to take punishment too- don't see that being a problem.
The issue is his punching power- it appears to be almost non existent. I can't remember a fight at these sorts of weights where a boxer has hit someone as cleanly and consistent as Eubank Jr. hit Quinlan (and before that Blackwell), where he has still NOT been able to knock them out.
Strange as he throws his punches with real venom behind them, but just doesn't seem to have any knockout power. His defense is not great and he is not difficult to hit so not sure how he will fare against top level boxers as I don't see him knocking anyone out and he is still fairly raw and wild at times with his punching- even at 27.
Will make for some very entertaining and unpredictable fights anyway. One thing I do like about him- he is a very exciting fighter. Hope he gets a shot at Golovkin or De Gale (more so than Saunders).
I agree with the post above- no one at middleweight or super-middleweight would relish fighting him.
Price- just embarrassing, should be ashamed of himself, which he probably is. Hanging over the ropes next to his corner like a dead weight, so fatigued after 5-6 rounds he could barely move, then after that hanging on again, face down trying to catch his breath, giving his opponent open shots to his head. He was so tired he didn't even care about being hit, not sure he knew where he was!!
After the fight I remember he wasn't able to stand either, just sat on his chair with his head down. Can't be allowed to box again, can't be called a professional boxer when you are in such a poor physical condition. If your breathing with your mouth open and struggling at the end of round 2 you should not be allowed to box professionally- for your own healthy and safety above all else.
Chris Eubank Jr- took Quinlan apart really. Battered him from the off, never gave him a chance. His fitness levels and stamina considering he had injuries and was out of intensive training for some time are brilliant, got to be one of the very best athletes in boxing. Looked very, very fresh and dangerous round 10- could have kept going for 4-5 more rounds quite comfortably I am sure. The speed of his punching is brilliant, he's also willing to stand toe to toe and trade. Looks able to take punishment too- don't see that being a problem.
The issue is his punching power- it appears to be almost non existent. I can't remember a fight at these sorts of weights where a boxer has hit someone as cleanly and consistent as Eubank Jr. hit Quinlan (and before that Blackwell), where he has still NOT been able to knock them out.
Strange as he throws his punches with real venom behind them, but just doesn't seem to have any knockout power. His defense is not great and he is not difficult to hit so not sure how he will fare against top level boxers as I don't see him knocking anyone out and he is still fairly raw and wild at times with his punching- even at 27.
Will make for some very entertaining and unpredictable fights anyway. One thing I do like about him- he is a very exciting fighter. Hope he gets a shot at Golovkin or De Gale (more so than Saunders).
I agree with the post above- no one at middleweight or super-middleweight would relish fighting him.
On 'bank's apparent lack of clean KO ability. Saw a theory over the weekend that he wears Winning gloves, known for protecting his hands, and this might dampen blows. Others in the game will know if there's any truth to that, they didn't look particularly pillow-like to me.
edit - A quick google shows him using mostly Reyes, which I understand to be a punchers glove, so that theory is probably b
ks.
edit - A quick google shows him using mostly Reyes, which I understand to be a punchers glove, so that theory is probably b
ks.Edited by RumbleOfThunder on Sunday 5th February 14:12
Chad_Hugo said:
Quite a good night of boxing, especially the main event.
Price- just embarrassing, should be ashamed of himself, which he probably is. Hanging over the ropes next to his corner like a dead weight, so fatigued after 5-6 rounds he could barely move, then after that hanging on again, face down trying to catch his breath, giving his opponent open shots to his head. He was so tired he didn't even care about being hit, not sure he knew where he was!!
After the fight I remember he wasn't able to stand either, just sat on his chair with his head down. Can't be allowed to box again, can't be called a professional boxer when you are in such a poor physical condition. If your breathing with your mouth open and struggling at the end of round 2 you should not be allowed to box professionally- for your own healthy and safety above all else.
it's not that he's out of shape, more the psychological scars that remain from previous knockouts. what you'll find is that in training he's ok but when fight night comes he's that anxious he burns up so much nervous energy he fatigues really quickly.Price- just embarrassing, should be ashamed of himself, which he probably is. Hanging over the ropes next to his corner like a dead weight, so fatigued after 5-6 rounds he could barely move, then after that hanging on again, face down trying to catch his breath, giving his opponent open shots to his head. He was so tired he didn't even care about being hit, not sure he knew where he was!!
After the fight I remember he wasn't able to stand either, just sat on his chair with his head down. Can't be allowed to box again, can't be called a professional boxer when you are in such a poor physical condition. If your breathing with your mouth open and struggling at the end of round 2 you should not be allowed to box professionally- for your own healthy and safety above all else.
i understand how it happens....there was a guy i used to spar who was so fast i could hardly lay a glove on him. he punched really hard too. no matter how hard i tried not to be i was always a bag of nerves getting in with him because i knew what was coming...a f
king hiding...even when i was super fit 2 or 3 rounds with him and i was blowing proper hard.the more i tried to put it out of my head beforehand the worse it got.Tusc is right nervous energy can take so much out of a fighter I also think pricey panicks when its put on him which can rob the body of energy.Plus the size he is regardless of being in great shape or not its always going to be a slog going 12 rounds especially if its at a pace.Eubank will never develop into a puncher in the same mould as khan they can hurt you but dont posses one punch power he will beat the bed with educated pressure high workrate can see him being involved in some very good scraps because of his agressive style
Regarding Eubank and KO power, I don't think he's likely to become a big single shot 'lights-out' type hitter (though he may continue to strengthen in that regard). He can still be highly effective at the highest level though, as long as he is hurtful enough to deter opponents from walking through him, allied to an ability to outbox opponents and the stamina to keep fighting for twelve full rounds...all of which he seems to have in his locker.
Some of the best did not possess one punch knockout power. Sugar Ray Leonard is one example - he relied more on accuracy, timing, speed and punches in bunches.
Junior has the speed and the burst rate he just needs to add a little more timing and accuracy and to cut out the javelin haymakers.
Junior has the speed and the burst rate he just needs to add a little more timing and accuracy and to cut out the javelin haymakers.
Fair comment, the above could be said for a lot of the trolling that goes on online today though.
I've always like Price and always rated him, he's certainly got the size and power where he should be able to mix it with the top guys in the division but something just appears to be missing. He nearly ended up as AJ's opponent before Molina got the nod not so long ago. Looking at Price's most recent defeat i'm glad he didn't end up in there against AJ, even though at the time I thought it'd be a very interesting match up.
I don't think he'll generate much cash at whatever fights he may land next as he will struggle to get anything at World or even European Level again. Perhaps it's time to call it quits inside the ring, I for one quite enjoy his work outside of the ring when covering fights.
I've always like Price and always rated him, he's certainly got the size and power where he should be able to mix it with the top guys in the division but something just appears to be missing. He nearly ended up as AJ's opponent before Molina got the nod not so long ago. Looking at Price's most recent defeat i'm glad he didn't end up in there against AJ, even though at the time I thought it'd be a very interesting match up.
I don't think he'll generate much cash at whatever fights he may land next as he will struggle to get anything at World or even European Level again. Perhaps it's time to call it quits inside the ring, I for one quite enjoy his work outside of the ring when covering fights.
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