The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
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Deontay wilder is s
te. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time.
Breazeale unogoh was a fking tear up!!!he showed big heart there.
Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has fked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still working
te. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time. Breazeale unogoh was a f
king tear up!!!he showed big heart there.Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has f
ked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still workingThe desperate lengths he's going to, to prove he doesn't need Brook is cringeworthy. He is not relevant at welter or light middle. Taking a tiny slice of the split to then get knocked out by the real draws in the sport doesn't change that either. Brook/Spence is genuinely brilliant match up while Manny/Khan is another freak show fight.
FredClogs said:
Money aside it's a strange choice from Khan, the canelo fight was a win win for him but this is a lose lose, he wins it people will say Pacman is a washed up old fighter and should retire, he loses and Khan really has no where to go other than down the rankings.
IMO it is clear that Khan wants to go down in boxing history and beating Pac would put him into boxing history so I think it is a risk he thinks worth taking.Mojooo said:
FredClogs said:
Money aside it's a strange choice from Khan, the canelo fight was a win win for him but this is a lose lose, he wins it people will say Pacman is a washed up old fighter and should retire, he loses and Khan really has no where to go other than down the rankings.
IMO it is clear that Khan wants to go down in boxing history and beating Pac would put him into boxing history so I think it is a risk he thinks worth taking.My worry is kahn won't step up and fight manny...he'll be looking to stay on his toes and hopefully pick up points.
I'm really hoping manny wipes kahn out.
Mojooo said:
FredClogs said:
Money aside it's a strange choice from Khan, the canelo fight was a win win for him but this is a lose lose, he wins it people will say Pacman is a washed up old fighter and should retire, he loses and Khan really has no where to go other than down the rankings.
IMO it is clear that Khan wants to go down in boxing history and beating Pac would put him into boxing history so I think it is a risk he thinks worth taking.FredClogs said:
Money aside it's a strange choice from Khan, the canelo fight was a win win for him but this is a lose lose, he wins it people will say Pacman is a washed up old fighter and should retire, he loses and Khan really has no where to go other than down the rankings.
Based on previous interviews of his, Khan genuinely believes he will win. The defeat against Canelo will have boosted that mindset, as knockout aside he did ok.I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 26th February 19:17
tuscaneer said:
Deontay wilder is ste. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time.
Breazeale unogoh was a fking tear up!!!he showed big heart there.
Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has fked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still working
Agree...very odd scoring. Unfortunately, it adds substance to the perception that Britain is getting as bad as Germany was for questionable scorecards, and overseas fighters will be less and less inclined to come over here.te. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time. Breazeale unogoh was a f
king tear up!!!he showed big heart there.Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has f
ked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still workingYiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
Deontay wilder is ste. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time.
Breazeale unogoh was a fking tear up!!!he showed big heart there.
Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has fked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still working
Agree...very odd scoring. Unfortunately, it adds substance to the perception that Britain is getting as bad as Germany was for questionable scorecards, and overseas fighters will be less and less inclined to come over here.te. He's got a big dig but looks like a fking new born giraffe most of the time. Breazeale unogoh was a f
king tear up!!!he showed big heart there.Great wins for coyle and Campbell but as we suspected...vargas was too good for mcdonell...how Ian John Lewis scored that a draw...absolute Disgrace. That man has been involved in so many disgusting score cards and has f
ked up as a ref so many times I can't believe he's still workinghyphen said:
Based on previous interviews of his, Khan genuinely believes he will win. The defeat against Canelo will have boosted that mindset, as knockout aside he did ok.
I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
I thought he might do that against that bearded MacGregor bloke - I don't know anything about him really, except he's Irish! I don't know anything about UFC stuff.I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 26th February 19:17
Or was that all just paper talk?
uk66fastback said:
hyphen said:
Based on previous interviews of his, Khan genuinely believes he will win. The defeat against Canelo will have boosted that mindset, as knockout aside he did ok.
I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
I thought he might do that against that bearded MacGregor bloke - I don't know anything about him really, except he's Irish! I don't know anything about UFC stuff.I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 26th February 19:17
Or was that all just paper talk?
Amirhussain said:
uk66fastback said:
hyphen said:
Based on previous interviews of his, Khan genuinely believes he will win. The defeat against Canelo will have boosted that mindset, as knockout aside he did ok.
I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
I thought he might do that against that bearded MacGregor bloke - I don't know anything about him really, except he's Irish! I don't know anything about UFC stuff.I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 26th February 19:17
Or was that all just paper talk?
MacGregor is on a break from UFC at the moment and is still arguably the biggest name in UFC - If they can build the hype then him fighting FM would generate massive payday for both.
FM gets his 50-0 with little risk and a big cheque, CM gets a big cheque and can go back to UFC without any real disadvantage from a loss in the boxing ring.
It's a farcical fight really but one the American PPV payers will lap up
lord trumpton said:
Amirhussain said:
uk66fastback said:
hyphen said:
Based on previous interviews of his, Khan genuinely believes he will win. The defeat against Canelo will have boosted that mindset, as knockout aside he did ok.
I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
I thought he might do that against that bearded MacGregor bloke - I don't know anything about him really, except he's Irish! I don't know anything about UFC stuff.I hope Khan wins, as along with being a Brit. I would expect him to call out Mayweather, And it may actually make financial sense for Mayweather to come out of retirement and get his record 50th unbeaten.
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 26th February 19:17
Or was that all just paper talk?
MacGregor is on a break from UFC at the moment and is still arguably the biggest name in UFC - If they can build the hype then him fighting FM would generate massive payday for both.
FM gets his 50-0 with little risk and a big cheque, CM gets a big cheque and can go back to UFC without any real disadvantage from a loss in the boxing ring.
It's a farcical fight really but one the American PPV payers will lap up
Ok, so I'm going to play devils advocate, a bit, because I think Mayweather McGregor will happen, they both claim to want it and the money being talked about is insane for a risk free exhibition bout, McGregor is not scared to take anything on and risk loosing, we've seen that from his ufc career over the last 18 months, .Mayweather I'm not sure.
1) Connor Mcgregor is a fighter, it's not like he's a wwe wrestler or something, he knows the task at hand and he's been banged about enough times to know he can take mayweathers power, his speed and boxing ability may be too much for McGregor over 12 rounds but with the big gloves I've no doubt he won't get close to knocking McGregor out with one shot power.
2)McGregor is significantly bigger, he's got a freakish body, he's all shoulders and arms, his reach is bizarre. I don't know what weight they're going to agree on but I suspect it'll have to be 155 or over, which won't suit Mayweather who is essentially a dwarf, McGregor I suspect walks around well over 170.
3)McGregor has very fast hands and feet and whilst his movement in mma won't translate to boxing his southpaw stance and fast switch hitting creates power and speed that Mayweather won't have experienced before should he be hit.
4)in the clinch mcgregor will have wrestling and Thai boxing skills Mayweather won't be used to, we could easily see McGregor rag dolling Mayweather around in the clinch for a round or two, it won't please the ref or score him any points but it will unsettle Mayweather.
5) I'm sure we all love Naseem Hamed (right?) he had great boxing fundamentals (which McGregor doesn't) but he rarely in his career actually used them as his main mode of boxing, likewise Tyson Fury, in a boxing match quite often the unorthodox guy has a huge advantage because you just can't get the sparring to prepare for them, Mayweather is a known quantity (knowing and being able to do anything are different I accept.)
My money is staying in my pocket, I wouldn't bet on Mayweather though.
Anyway, here endeth todays pontifications.
McGregor sparring for those who haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCXKT0hhdI
1) Connor Mcgregor is a fighter, it's not like he's a wwe wrestler or something, he knows the task at hand and he's been banged about enough times to know he can take mayweathers power, his speed and boxing ability may be too much for McGregor over 12 rounds but with the big gloves I've no doubt he won't get close to knocking McGregor out with one shot power.
2)McGregor is significantly bigger, he's got a freakish body, he's all shoulders and arms, his reach is bizarre. I don't know what weight they're going to agree on but I suspect it'll have to be 155 or over, which won't suit Mayweather who is essentially a dwarf, McGregor I suspect walks around well over 170.
3)McGregor has very fast hands and feet and whilst his movement in mma won't translate to boxing his southpaw stance and fast switch hitting creates power and speed that Mayweather won't have experienced before should he be hit.
4)in the clinch mcgregor will have wrestling and Thai boxing skills Mayweather won't be used to, we could easily see McGregor rag dolling Mayweather around in the clinch for a round or two, it won't please the ref or score him any points but it will unsettle Mayweather.
5) I'm sure we all love Naseem Hamed (right?) he had great boxing fundamentals (which McGregor doesn't) but he rarely in his career actually used them as his main mode of boxing, likewise Tyson Fury, in a boxing match quite often the unorthodox guy has a huge advantage because you just can't get the sparring to prepare for them, Mayweather is a known quantity (knowing and being able to do anything are different I accept.)
My money is staying in my pocket, I wouldn't bet on Mayweather though.
Anyway, here endeth todays pontifications.
McGregor sparring for those who haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCXKT0hhdI
FredClogs said:
Ok, so I'm going to play devils advocate, a bit, because I think Mayweather McGregor will happen, they both claim to want it and the money being talked about is insane for a risk free exhibition bout, McGregor is not scared to take anything on and risk loosing, we've seen that from his ufc career over the last 18 months, .Mayweather I'm not sure.
1) Connor Mcgregor is a fighter, it's not like he's a wwe wrestler or something, he knows the task at hand and he's been banged about enough times to know he can take mayweathers power, his speed and boxing ability may be too much for McGregor over 12 rounds but with the big gloves I've no doubt he won't get close to knocking McGregor out with one shot power.
2)McGregor is significantly bigger, he's got a freakish body, he's all shoulders and arms, his reach is bizarre. I don't know what weight they're going to agree on but I suspect it'll have to be 155 or over, which won't suit Mayweather who is essentially a dwarf, McGregor I suspect walks around well over 170.
3)McGregor has very fast hands and feet and whilst his movement in mma won't translate to boxing his southpaw stance and fast switch hitting creates power and speed that Mayweather won't have experienced before should he be hit.
4)in the clinch mcgregor will have wrestling and Thai boxing skills Mayweather won't be used to, we could easily see McGregor rag dolling Mayweather around in the clinch for a round or two, it won't please the ref or score him any points but it will unsettle Mayweather.
5) I'm sure we all love Naseem Hamed (right?) he had great boxing fundamentals (which McGregor doesn't) but he rarely in his career actually used them as his main mode of boxing, likewise Tyson Fury, in a boxing match quite often the unorthodox guy has a huge advantage because you just can't get the sparring to prepare for them, Mayweather is a known quantity (knowing and being able to do anything are different I accept.)
My money is staying in my pocket, I wouldn't bet on Mayweather though.
Anyway, here endeth todays pontifications.
McGregor sparring for those who haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCXKT0hhdI
Hmm, based on watching that I'm not too sure.1) Connor Mcgregor is a fighter, it's not like he's a wwe wrestler or something, he knows the task at hand and he's been banged about enough times to know he can take mayweathers power, his speed and boxing ability may be too much for McGregor over 12 rounds but with the big gloves I've no doubt he won't get close to knocking McGregor out with one shot power.
2)McGregor is significantly bigger, he's got a freakish body, he's all shoulders and arms, his reach is bizarre. I don't know what weight they're going to agree on but I suspect it'll have to be 155 or over, which won't suit Mayweather who is essentially a dwarf, McGregor I suspect walks around well over 170.
3)McGregor has very fast hands and feet and whilst his movement in mma won't translate to boxing his southpaw stance and fast switch hitting creates power and speed that Mayweather won't have experienced before should he be hit.
4)in the clinch mcgregor will have wrestling and Thai boxing skills Mayweather won't be used to, we could easily see McGregor rag dolling Mayweather around in the clinch for a round or two, it won't please the ref or score him any points but it will unsettle Mayweather.
5) I'm sure we all love Naseem Hamed (right?) he had great boxing fundamentals (which McGregor doesn't) but he rarely in his career actually used them as his main mode of boxing, likewise Tyson Fury, in a boxing match quite often the unorthodox guy has a huge advantage because you just can't get the sparring to prepare for them, Mayweather is a known quantity (knowing and being able to do anything are different I accept.)
My money is staying in my pocket, I wouldn't bet on Mayweather though.
Anyway, here endeth todays pontifications.
McGregor sparring for those who haven't seen it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geCXKT0hhdI
MacGregors issue in all his UFC fights is after round 2 (of 5) he gasses out. If he's not knocked FM out in the first couple of rounds then it's game over for him.
Put FM in the octagon then it's a different story - it's all about quick hits to any area of the body and the ability of the fighters to endure the pain.
It's like a sprinter and long distance runner having a race.
It'll still sell in droves if it happens mind
jules_s said:
Has Haye lost the plot?
I've followed boxing a long while now, and whilst I've seen plenty of staged rants that looked like a full on meltdown to me
Looking forward to that bout now
TB is an annoying idiotic prat as were the drunk scousers @ the press conference, I can see why DH is so irritated I've followed boxing a long while now, and whilst I've seen plenty of staged rants that looked like a full on meltdown to me
Looking forward to that bout now
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