The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
Discussion
Wow. There's all sorts of folks that come and post their views on Pistonheads..
A chap called Tyson Fury spends 10 years doing his homework for one special night. A chap called Tyson Fury turns up somewhere in Germany as cannon fodder. A chap called Tyson Fury delivers the greatest performance in a ring against the greatest of odds since last time and still the chap called Tyson Fury fails to impress some of the good Pistonhead folks.
I hate to think how unimpressed folks would be if a fighter with a few insignificant wins under his belt against a few insignificant opponents went over seas for his first world title fight to fight a dominant champion who had an unbeaten record for about a decade and had smashed all his opponents to bits and who had just about every belt under the sun. Blimey just imagine fighting a chap who is number 3 pound for pound in those imaginary rankings and taking the Michael out of him at the same time.
Merry Christmas Team Fury.
A chap called Tyson Fury spends 10 years doing his homework for one special night. A chap called Tyson Fury turns up somewhere in Germany as cannon fodder. A chap called Tyson Fury delivers the greatest performance in a ring against the greatest of odds since last time and still the chap called Tyson Fury fails to impress some of the good Pistonhead folks.
I hate to think how unimpressed folks would be if a fighter with a few insignificant wins under his belt against a few insignificant opponents went over seas for his first world title fight to fight a dominant champion who had an unbeaten record for about a decade and had smashed all his opponents to bits and who had just about every belt under the sun. Blimey just imagine fighting a chap who is number 3 pound for pound in those imaginary rankings and taking the Michael out of him at the same time.
Merry Christmas Team Fury.
SPR said:
Wow. There's all sorts of folks that come and post their views on Pistonheads..
A chap called Tyson Fury spends 10 years doing his homework for one special night. A chap called Tyson Fury turns up somewhere in Germany as cannon fodder. A chap called Tyson Fury delivers the greatest performance in a ring against the greatest of odds since last time and still the chap called Tyson Fury fails to impress some of the good Pistonhead folks.
I hate to think how unimpressed folks would be if a fighter with a few insignificant wins under his belt against a few insignificant opponents went over seas for his first world title fight to fight a dominant champion who had an unbeaten record for about a decade and had smashed all his opponents to bits and who had just about every belt under the sun. Blimey just imagine fighting a chap who is number 3 pound for pound in those imaginary rankings and taking the Michael out of him at the same time.
Merry Christmas Team Fury.
Totally agree.A chap called Tyson Fury spends 10 years doing his homework for one special night. A chap called Tyson Fury turns up somewhere in Germany as cannon fodder. A chap called Tyson Fury delivers the greatest performance in a ring against the greatest of odds since last time and still the chap called Tyson Fury fails to impress some of the good Pistonhead folks.
I hate to think how unimpressed folks would be if a fighter with a few insignificant wins under his belt against a few insignificant opponents went over seas for his first world title fight to fight a dominant champion who had an unbeaten record for about a decade and had smashed all his opponents to bits and who had just about every belt under the sun. Blimey just imagine fighting a chap who is number 3 pound for pound in those imaginary rankings and taking the Michael out of him at the same time.
Merry Christmas Team Fury.
Listened here in Cyprus on 5 Live. All three commentators, somewhat gobsmacked but impressed with Fury.
As was said above in another post 'he did what he had to do'.
At 27 he beat the champ, is £30M richer (minus expenses) and without even a scratch.
That'll buy a few caravans.
Well done that man.
To many casual boxing viewers it may fairly be stamped as a boring fight.
Look a little deeper and I actually think Fury won because he didn't allow Klitschco an opening.
He switched to southpaw in the 3rd and just kept the (ex) champion at bay with his long straight jab and was forever bobbing about, moving his head around and feinting punches keeping him from finding range.
Although most wanted a tear up, the 'clown' certainly entertained and did what was needed to win. He had a plan and it worked.
Good for him.
At least we have a British Heavyweight champ in Fury and Joshua is certainly on the right path too.
Look a little deeper and I actually think Fury won because he didn't allow Klitschco an opening.
He switched to southpaw in the 3rd and just kept the (ex) champion at bay with his long straight jab and was forever bobbing about, moving his head around and feinting punches keeping him from finding range.
Although most wanted a tear up, the 'clown' certainly entertained and did what was needed to win. He had a plan and it worked.
Good for him.
At least we have a British Heavyweight champ in Fury and Joshua is certainly on the right path too.
SPR said:
A chap called Tyson Fury spends 10 years doing his homework for one special night. A chap called Tyson Fury turns up somewhere in Germany as cannon fodder. A chap called Tyson Fury delivers the greatest performance in a ring against the greatest of odds since last time and still the chap called Tyson Fury fails to impress some of the good Pistonhead folks.
Possibly because a chap called Tyson Fury is a vile, homophobic, and I sincerely hope his first defence ends in humiliating failure. It'll be good to see how he explains that giving god/jesus are on his side.I'll just leave this here, so we all know exactly who this tt is we're congratulating.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/heavyweight-boxer-ty...
dirty boy said:
Northbloke said:
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(This board is a great read btw. Also good to have some insight from those who have been in a ring and taken one on the schnozzle! Doesn't it flipping hurt?)
Has always been a good board, unlike picking throught the 'specials' over on boxing24 fairly reasoned and well thought out responses. (This board is a great read btw. Also good to have some insight from those who have been in a ring and taken one on the schnozzle! Doesn't it flipping hurt?)
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Possibly because a chap called Tyson Fury is a vile, homophobic, and I sincerely hope his first defence ends in humiliating failure. It'll be good to see how he explains that giving god/jesus are on his side.
I'll just leave this here, so we all know exactly who this tt is we're congratulating.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/heavyweight-boxer-ty...
Agreed. How a man who spends his life in sparkly shorts with his shirt off rubbing his muscles up against other men can have such views on homosexuality... If christianity is so important to him then he should stop hitting people and he should give his wealth to the poor.I'll just leave this here, so we all know exactly who this tt is we're congratulating.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/heavyweight-boxer-ty...
LOL at all the 'he did what he had to do' comments.
Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
johnfm said:
LOL at all the 'he did what he had to do' comments.
Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
Except that every commentator, and all of the judges thought that he did enough to win.Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
Not the most entertaining fight ever, but far from the worst. I'm so glad that Fury won. I watched his interview earlier on Sky Sports News, he came across as a very decent guy, despite all the jokes, costumes etc, and at least he generates some hype and excitement.
I find Klitschko extremely boring, so very happy Fury is world champion.
I find Klitschko extremely boring, so very happy Fury is world champion.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Possibly because a chap called Tyson Fury is a vile, homophobic, and I sincerely hope his first defence ends in humiliating failure. It'll be good to see how he explains that giving god/jesus are on his side.
I'll just leave this here, so we all know exactly who this tt is we're congratulating.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/heavyweight-boxer-ty...
I'll go back to ignoring heavyweight boxing and thinking Fury's a bellend.I'll just leave this here, so we all know exactly who this tt is we're congratulating.
http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/09/heavyweight-boxer-ty...
Knob.
Not a great fight IMO, but Fury did put in the better performance but the show boating needs to stop, he put his hands behind his back and let Wlad hit him at one point, some day he's going to make a mistake pissing about like that and someone is going to punish him for it.
Fair play on the win, though.
Fair play on the win, though.
spikeyhead said:
johnfm said:
LOL at all the 'he did what he had to do' comments.
Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
Except that every commentator, and all of the judges thought that he did enough to win.Surely yhe requirement to challenge and dethrone the incumbent champion is a bit more than 'not get hit'.
No doubt VK didn't do much/any punching either. But the holder of the titles should have to be beaten.
There is no way an impartial observer of that fight could say the challenger did anything to merit a 'win'.
Was in a club watching the fight. 300 people cheering on Klitshko before the fight.
After it, for Fury.
He's a but of a nob but he deserved the win.
Klitschko done nothing at all to warrant a win. People were sayin him by points, him by KO.
Even the bookies were wrong.
If there is a rematch I doubt Vladamir will even win that.
After it, for Fury.
He's a but of a nob but he deserved the win.
Klitschko done nothing at all to warrant a win. People were sayin him by points, him by KO.
Even the bookies were wrong.
If there is a rematch I doubt Vladamir will even win that.
Very much a casual boxing fan here but have followed Vol's 1 & 2 of this thread and enjoy reading some of the more technical discussion and analysis of the fights and the sport in general.
I paid for the PPV last night and am looking forward to hearing what some of the more knowledgable folk on here have to say about the fight.
From my POV it looked like Fury had a tool (reach) that Vlad couldn't work his way around and managed to spend 36mins putting Klitchko off his stride, which I suppose is pretty impressive when everyone else in the last 10yrs has failed.
As others have said though, as a 'fight' and as a spectacle, it was a pretty lacklustre way for a 4-belt(?), 10yr, world heavy weight champion to be dethroned.
When my OH asked this morning how the fight was and said that she had seen that Fury had won, my response was "well, he lost the least".
I'm watching a programme about Jack Johnson as I type this and as much as the art of boxing seemingly hasn't changed all that much, there certainly seems to be less emphasis and apparent desire (not in all cases but certainly last night) for a fighter to beat his opponents, in both senses of the word.
I paid for the PPV last night and am looking forward to hearing what some of the more knowledgable folk on here have to say about the fight.
From my POV it looked like Fury had a tool (reach) that Vlad couldn't work his way around and managed to spend 36mins putting Klitchko off his stride, which I suppose is pretty impressive when everyone else in the last 10yrs has failed.
As others have said though, as a 'fight' and as a spectacle, it was a pretty lacklustre way for a 4-belt(?), 10yr, world heavy weight champion to be dethroned.
When my OH asked this morning how the fight was and said that she had seen that Fury had won, my response was "well, he lost the least".
I'm watching a programme about Jack Johnson as I type this and as much as the art of boxing seemingly hasn't changed all that much, there certainly seems to be less emphasis and apparent desire (not in all cases but certainly last night) for a fighter to beat his opponents, in both senses of the word.
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