The **BOXING** thread Vol 2

[tuscaneer]

RJB_666 said:

Heads up for tonight, Joshua vs Whyte 'The Gloves Are Off' is on Sky Sports 1 at 6:30PM.

Part of me is really looking forward to this fight. The other part of me is thinking it's bad to knock back one of our prospects so early on. From both of their last fights I truly believe Whyte is going to be far too easy to hit. Just hope there is a bit of respect after the final bell.

if you watch their amateur fight on youtube and compare the 2 of them now it's clear that joshua has improved far more than whyte. i would think joshua does a number on whyte in this fight you know.

[Challo]

tuscaneer said:

RJB_666 said:

Heads up for tonight, Joshua vs Whyte 'The Gloves Are Off' is on Sky Sports 1 at 6:30PM.

Part of me is really looking forward to this fight. The other part of me is thinking it's bad to knock back one of our prospects so early on. From both of their last fights I truly believe Whyte is going to be far too easy to hit. Just hope there is a bit of respect after the final bell.

if you watch their amateur fight on youtube and compare the 2 of them now it's clear that joshua has improved far more than whyte. i would think joshua does a number on whyte in this fight you know.

Looks a good under card as well so I will be getting Box Office for this.

[Yiliterate]

Wlad has just announced he intends to trigger the re-match clause. I'm not massively surprised overall, but I am perhaps slightly surprised that he's done it so quickly...

[Fittster]

Yiliterate said:

Wlad has just announced he intends to trigger the re-match clause. I'm not massively surprised overall, but I am perhaps slightly surprised that he's done it so quickly...

Does the rematch have to take place before Fury has to fight Vyacheslav Glazkov (IBF mandatory)? If he fights Wlad rather than Glazkov does he forfeit the IBF Belt?

[FredClogs]

Fittster said:

Yiliterate said:

Wlad has just announced he intends to trigger the re-match clause. I'm not massively surprised overall, but I am perhaps slightly surprised that he's done it so quickly...

Does the rematch have to take place before Fury has to fight Vyacheslav Glazkov (IBF mandatory)? If he fights Wlad rather than Glazkov does he forfeit the IBF Belt?

He might well forfeit them all when he sees the sanctioning fees he has to pay, especially if he can't get the big money fights or tempt Wilder into a unification - there's an hour long with Fury and Kugan Cassius on iFL TV (which I was sad/insomniac enough to watch last night) where Fury essentially hints that he may not be able to afford to be Heavyweight world champ once Vlad has retired such are the costs involved and number of big names on the heavy weight scene.

[m4tti]

Klitschkos starting to look in a no win situation. He loses and he gets remembered as someone who went out on loses to an average opponent.

If he ko's fury in five rounds questions will be asked as to whether it was a fluke. Even worse there are rumblings round the net suggesting big bets were put on by Ukrainians to the tune of 50m for Klitschko to lose, which although fanciful take on strange possibilities with a politically exposed corner member and relative, and a nation in its current state.

[RockyBalboa]

IBF rules state that if they are petitioned to make the fight by the number 1 contender before an exemption is requested by the existing champ (now Fury), it must take place or the belt be vacated. Glazgov's promoter (Duva) has already done this. Fury has already rejected the idea as Wlad has stated he wants to rematch, so, potentially, it could be for all the belts Wlad lost except for the IBF. Meanwhile the IBF ranked 1 and 2 fight it out for a paper championship.. utterly ridiculous!

[Birkin1932]

Joshua will knock whyte out in one round. No way is this a pay per view fight

white likes to mix it and sticks his chin out big time

do it once BOOOOM

[Challo]

FredClogs said:

Fittster said:

Yiliterate said:

Wlad has just announced he intends to trigger the re-match clause. I'm not massively surprised overall, but I am perhaps slightly surprised that he's done it so quickly...

Does the rematch have to take place before Fury has to fight Vyacheslav Glazkov (IBF mandatory)? If he fights Wlad rather than Glazkov does he forfeit the IBF Belt?

He might well forfeit them all when he sees the sanctioning fees he has to pay, especially if he can't get the big money fights or tempt Wilder into a unification - there's an hour long with Fury and Kugan Cassius on iFL TV (which I was sad/insomniac enough to watch last night) where Fury essentially hints that he may not be able to afford to be Heavyweight world champ once Vlad has retired such are the costs involved and number of big names on the heavy weight scene.

What's fees do boxers have to pay for holding belts?? Why would he not be able to afford to be champion?

[Burwood]

Challo said:

FredClogs said:

Fittster said:

Yiliterate said:

Wlad has just announced he intends to trigger the re-match clause. I'm not massively surprised overall, but I am perhaps slightly surprised that he's done it so quickly...

Does the rematch have to take place before Fury has to fight Vyacheslav Glazkov (IBF mandatory)? If he fights Wlad rather than Glazkov does he forfeit the IBF Belt?

He might well forfeit them all when he sees the sanctioning fees he has to pay, especially if he can't get the big money fights or tempt Wilder into a unification - there's an hour long with Fury and Kugan Cassius on iFL TV (which I was sad/insomniac enough to watch last night) where Fury essentially hints that he may not be able to afford to be Heavyweight world champ once Vlad has retired such are the costs involved and number of big names on the heavy weight scene.

What's fees do boxers have to pay for holding belts?? Why would he not be able to afford to be champion?

What he means is after buying his extended family new caravans, hold rings and white RR sports there won't be any cash left.

[StuTheGrouch]

Challo said:

What's fees do boxers have to pay for holding belts?? Why would he not be able to afford to be champion?

Recently Cotto refused sanctioning fees. They can be very high- I think his bill was something in the order of $300k. That was for 1 belt. See section 16 here- http://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/

They don't pay for holding the belts, but a fee is due when the belt is involved in fights as a percentage of the purse. WBO is 2%, but then 2% plus another 2% plus another 2%, then the promoter's slice, plus the training costs, taxes etc etc = champion takes home a small fraction of the total purse.

[Yiliterate]

StuTheGrouch said:

Recently Cotto refused sanctioning fees. They can be very high- I think his bill was something in the order of $300k. That was for 1 belt. See section 16 here- http://www.wboboxing.com/regulations/

If anyone wants to get an insight into how the sport operates and is administered, that link is a really interesting read...

[hornetrider]

RJB_666 said:

Heads up for tonight, Joshua vs Whyte 'The Gloves Are Off' is on Sky Sports 1 at 6:30PM.

I saw it after the footy last night. Looks like some proper niggle coming from Whyte. I wouldn't pay for it ppv though as I don't think it'll last long.

[Northbloke]

Just watched the Whyte and Joshua amateur bout on Youtube and Whyte won fairly easily by just coming forward and throwing haymakers (5% hit rate!) to my untrained eye.

As an uninformed but interested observer what has happened to their career paths since their amateur days to make Joshua the clear favourite now.

Has he just grown more physically, more raw talent which has now developed, better coaching team, better mental attitude. All of the above?

And what are the major differences when moving into the pro game?

Any opinions?

[briangriffin]

If i remember rightly Whyte had a kick-boxing background before going into amateur boxing so had a head-start there, Whyte then got banned in the pros for drug use (think he may have been banned in the amateurs too)

Joshua climbed the ladder in GB squad in the ams so was then basically getting paid to train and box and had all the bonuses that go with not having to hold down a job whilst training to boot.

[lemmingjames]

Think Whyte was banned as he took Jack3d shortly after it got banned which had a substance in that was then deemed illegal.

Whether this covered up other abuse i dont know

[dirty boy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ANoaTkKSro

Whyte and Joshua in Gloves are off. Will probably be taken down soonish as it's not an official link.

Joshua had a real look of menace in his eyes. I don't believe he's the nice nice guy, but he does realise he's a role model and lives up to that. He's growing into a decent young man IMO.

Whyte has a chance as does any heavyweight. Would like to see a patient performance from AJ.

As a note

Yes, it's PPV and people are calling it a 'joke' on SM, but it does have

Eubank v Spike O'Sullivan
Bellew v Masternak

And we're seeing Kevin Mitchell (always an exciting fighter to watch) along with Campbell.

Not a bad night of boxing for the fan, but can see why casuals are up in arms.

[Yiliterate]

dirty boy said:

Yes, it's PPV and people are calling it a 'joke' on SM, but it does have

Eubank v Spike O'Sullivan
Bellew v Masternak

And we're seeing Kevin Mitchell (always an exciting fighter to watch) along with Campbell.

Not a bad night of boxing for the fan, but can see why casuals are up in arms.

Plus, somewhat unexpectedly, Paulie Malignaggi fighting for the European Welterweight belt! Hearn potentially lining him up for Brook in 2016...?

[FredClogs]

Yiliterate said:

Paulie Malignaggi fighting for the European Welterweight belt! Hearn potentially lining him up for Brook in 2016...?

Say what? I appreciate his parents or grandparents were probably from Italy but I've never seen or heard a man who is more New York (with the exception of the Beastie Boys and George Burns).

Secondly Paulie gets all my respect and admiration, a brave and great fighter who in another time might have been more succesfull it just so happens he's lost to some very good fighters at their peaks but he should probably hang it up now, he's a great pundit and good value on the telly but you do get the feeling he's only a couple of concussions away from being a bit sub optimal. That said Branco is well old and very beatable, so who knows?

(Just checked out the report on Sky Sports, he was born in Sicily so fair play to him)

[272BHP]

Boxing is getting huge right now isn't it?

A few years ago I had a real fear that the sport was being marginalised on TV. Now though, wow. Practically every week there are enticing fights on the telly and who would have thought that someone would have the brass balls to ask PPV for 2 emerging British heavyweights!