Most overpaid sports?

Most overpaid sports?

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Centurion07

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Of course, it doesn't mean they're not overpaid in real terms for what they actually "do" though.

MarshPhantom

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Gargamel said:
What about 100m runners. less than 10seconds work.
Doubt it pays too well for the average runner.

sidicks

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Monday 28th September 2015
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Centurion07 said:
Of course, it doesn't mean they're not overpaid in real terms for what they actually "do" though.
Define 'overpaid'...

MarshPhantom

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Centurion07 said:
dave_s13 said:
I won't be getting the violin out for him like but it's not that easy to get there, and stay there.
Yep, fair points, but he was still overpaid for what he did, plus if you ask any professional sportsperson if they'd rather have had a regular 9 to 5 than a career in their chosen sport, I reckon you'd be hard pushed to find one that would take the 9 to 5.
How do you know how much he was paid?

Not all footballers are on good money, it's a short career and you'll be very lucky to ever play for a big team.

Centurion07

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Contribution to society?

Level of "graft"?

Level of skill? I would certainly say something like darts, where the situation never changes and "training" is exactly the same as the "real thing", is a long way removed from something like football where the opposition is doing everything they can to stop you winning and no matter how hard you train it will never replicate an actual game.

Centurion07

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MarshPhantom said:
How do you know how much he was paid?

Not all footballers are on good money, it's a short career and you'll be very lucky to ever play for a big team.
I don't need to know his exact wage to know he was overpaid: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premie...

sidicks

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Centurion07 said:
Contribution to society?

Level of "graft"?

Level of skill? I would certainly say something like darts, where the situation never changes and "training" is exactly the same as the "real thing", is a long way removed from something like football where the opposition is doing everything they can to stop you winning and no matter how hard you train it will never replicate an actual game.
Those seem to be very vague and subjective metrics.

Fact is, in a free market, someone is 'worth' whatever someone else is prepared to pay them!

BoRED S2upid

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Centurion07 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Tennis
Good call, I'd argue against it for top spot though as they do spend a lot of time actually running around the court.
Murray £2m a year from Adidas, £1m from Highland spring water. Getting paid while your not even playing!


Yiliterate

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Sumo wrestling. Top sumos are treated like gods in Japan but the actual bouts rarely go beyond a few seconds and, to my eyes at least, looks to be the least skilful and least dangerous combat sport. Still, I used to quite enjoy it when Channel 4 had the rights to it...!

sidicks

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BoRED S2upid said:
Murray £2m a year from Adidas, £1m from Highland spring water. Getting paid while your not even playing!
£15m over 4 years for Under Armour.

Fact is, they are paying that because they think they will get back (much) more in profits, so definitely 'worth it'.

Centurion07

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sidicks said:
Centurion07 said:
Contribution to society?

Level of "graft"?

Level of skill? I would certainly say something like darts, where the situation never changes and "training" is exactly the same as the "real thing", is a long way removed from something like football where the opposition is doing everything they can to stop you winning and no matter how hard you train it will never replicate an actual game.
Those seem to be very vague and subjective metrics.

Fact is, in a free market, someone is 'worth' whatever someone else is prepared to pay them!
The last one isn't vague or subjective and, in the context of the question, is probably the most relevant when comparing different sports.

sidicks

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Centurion07 said:
The last one isn't vague or subjective and, in the context of the question, is probably the most relevant when comparing different sports.
Well, if top tennis players aren't that skilful then it would be say for anyone to replicate what they do and compete for the massive prize money on offer!!

Centurion07

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sidicks said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Murray £2m a year from Adidas, £1m from Highland spring water. Getting paid while your not even playing!
£15m over 4 years for Under Armour.

Fact is, they are paying that because they think they will get back (much) more in profits, so definitely 'worth it'.
But for what he actually DOES, when compared with some other sports, the direct earnings from tennis are out of proportion.

sidicks

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Centurion07 said:
But for what he actually DOES, when compared with some other sports, the direct earnings from tennis are out of proportion.
You keep saying that but with no justification!

How much training has he done to get to where he is today? To a level where he is in the top 5 in the world..

Centurion07

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sidicks said:
Well, if top tennis players aren't that skilful then it would be say for anyone to replicate what they do and compete for the massive prize money on offer!!
You're missing the point; it's not just the skill involved as much as it is the time and physical effort expended in the participation of a particular sport.

Centurion07

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sidicks said:
Centurion07 said:
But for what he actually DOES, when compared with some other sports, the direct earnings from tennis are out of proportion.
You keep saying that but with no justification!

How much training has he done to get to where he is today? To a level where he is in the top 5 in the world..
Now I know you're missing the point of the original question.

Running around a tennis court for say, 2 hours at a time with very little risk is way easier than, for example, ice hockey where injury risk is much, much higher. Baseball, where injury risk again is tiny, is even easier as each player only actually plays around 5 minutes per game.

MarshPhantom

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Golf surely. Dull as fk, you can play forever, very little risk of injury.

sidicks

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Centurion07 said:
Now I know you're missing the point of the original question.

Running around a tennis court for say, 2 hours at a time with very little risk is way easier than, for example, ice hockey where injury risk is much, much higher. Baseball, where injury risk again is tiny, is even easier as each player only actually plays around 5 minutes per game.
Why is risk the most relevant factor for determining what someone is 'worth'?

Surely it's a combination of numerous factors, which goes back to the point i made earlier. Someone is 'worth' whatever someone else is prepared to pay them. And the reasons these people are paid what they are is that they can do things that the rest of the world cannot and people want to see that!

BoRED S2upid

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MarshPhantom said:
Golf surely. Dull as fk, you can play forever, very little risk of injury.
It's definitely up there didn't speith just win $7mill or something? Plus like tennis the sponsors pay you direct so it's earning while not playing unlike football I'm not sure of baseball who gets any sponsorship money? The club or the player?

If were talking career earnings for effort it's got to be Tennis or Golf there are masters tournaments both of which are basically turning up, hitting a ball get paid, drink champers, meet sponsors, get paid etc...

sidicks

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BoRED S2upid said:
It's definitely up there didn't speith just win $7mill or something? Plus like tennis the sponsors pay you direct so it's earning while not playing unlike football I'm not sure of baseball who gets any sponsorship money? The club or the player?

If were talking career earnings for effort it's got to be Tennis or Golf there are masters tournaments both of which are basically turning up, hitting a ball get paid, drink champers, meet sponsors, get paid etc...
rofl

Have you ever been invited to play in a golf or tennis 'masters' tournament...?