Anyone think England will beat Australia?? Hope Not

[Bluequay]

nickrex said:

Hungrymc said:

Pints said:

Derek Chevalier said:

Hungrymc said:

but the odds are againts.... :-(

They're not - England are favourites

I had to check this. I'm rather surprised.

I should have checked before posting that. I'm really hoping for an England win. Needs some calmer heads, better discipline (particularly at the breakdown).

We were 3-1 outsiders last week. Bookies have to offer odds to balance their book based on the bets they take. British bookmakers will generally have England favourite due to home fans backing their team. Doesn't always mean that they are better than the opposition. I do think England will win today though. Good luck to both teams!

Finally somebody who understands how and why odds are skewed in favour of the local market!!!

[bearman68]

So Wales go through.

Bad Luck chaps......

[Leins]

timlongs said:

Fats25 said:

Leins said:

^^^ Wilko was left of the posts, so to step into it on his left foot would have narrowed the angle. Kicking with his right meant it was a straighter shot at goal

If that is accurate (and it makes sense to me) that is pretty impressive. I have seen footballers refuse to shoot on their wrong foot when 5 yards from goal!

Not true, Dawson sent the pass onto Wilko's right hand side meaning he was forced to kick it right footed.

Sir Clive had always told Dawson to pass onto Wilko's left foot, and the most important kick of his life, he received the pass onto his right foot.

Didn't know that, as with JW's positioning in the pocket I had always presumed it was sent to his right on purpose

[Pints]

Fats25 said:

I know very little of rugby. I know I watched the wc final in 2003 as I remember the pubs opened early, and you need to have seen it to wind up Australians. I think I also watched the other final (in France I think) where we lost to some other team - could have been 2007?

Some other team that you lost to in the final? You mean South Africa, the 2007 WC champions.

Amused by the ongoing fun poking from England fans that's still continuing on Twitter, et al. The Japan game was a hell of an upset, but at least the Boks are heading for the next round, and Japan's thumping of Samoa shows it wasn't exactly a one off.

Well done to Wales who will most likely be facing the Springboks in the next round (if my chart reading skills are to be trusted).

Either way, rugby is the ultimate winner in all of this, despite having brought out the fair weather fans who'll be scurrying back to the football premiership after last night.

[gizlaroc]

Pints said:

Either way, rugby is the ultimate winner in all of this, despite having brought out the fair weather fans who'll be scurrying back to the football premiership after last night.

Well to be fair the England team hasn't done much to promote the game with their performances.

[Smollet]

bearman68 said:

So Wales go through.

Bad Luck chaps......

Bad luck in having a bunch of muppets for management. Well done to Wales and Aus for going through.

[Derek Chevalier]

nickrex said:

Derek Chevalier said:

nickrex said:

Hungrymc said:

Pints said:

Derek Chevalier said:

Hungrymc said:

but the odds are againts.... :-(

They're not - England are favourites

I had to check this. I'm rather surprised.

I should have checked before posting that. I'm really hoping for an England win. Needs some calmer heads, better discipline (particularly at the breakdown).

We were 3-1 outsiders last week. Bookies have to offer odds to balance their book based on the bets they take. British bookmakers will generally have England favourite due to home fans backing their team. Doesn't always mean that they are better than the opposition. I do think England will win today though. Good luck to both teams!

Where did you see this - odds haven't moved much at all on Betfair?

Apologies, by 'we' I meant Wales last week against England. My point being is that we were never really that far away from England. Same for Fiji at 6-1 against us on Thursday.

Ah, got it. Agreed with that - I laid England @~6-1 and backed Aus @~10-1 at start of tournament. Not sure that Aus will go on to win overall, but they have improved massively over last year.

[irocfan]

shows the difference different coaching staff can make in less than a year.....

[Brilad]

I'm English and don't really have any interest in Rugby Union, didn't watch any of the games and could not give a flying fk if they got stuffed 80-0 every match.

What did make me laugh was the TV ads, vainly trying to drum up some sort of interest.


These adverts featured vaguely sinister-looking blokes...striding purposefully towards London...gaining stature as they strode across various provincial towns. Onlookers were amazed by these towering men, who occasionally stopped to leer - and I do mean leer - in to kids' bedrooms.

By the time the reached London they were so massive, that it would have been impossible for the team to actually fit in to the stadium. How were they supposed to hold the ball which by now, relative to their immense size would have been just a tiny dot hundreds of feet below.


And then what happened?

Yes, they didn't even get through the group stage. What a joke. If had spent money on this ste I would want it back.

I now expect a series of TV adverts showing them as little Subbuteo rugby players...being eaten by a small mongrel then shat out in a layby somewhere near Doncaster.