The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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bigandclever

13,750 posts

237 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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I don't know. It had to happen some time. It's a shame there's sour grapes though ... the Swede who finished 12th broke their national record. But because someone else is faster "I do not really believe that she is 100 per cent (clean). It is too easy for her". Train harder, love, you might get there, but I doubt it. Some people are just machines. It was impossible to run a 4 minute mile. It was impossible to do an ironman. It was impossible to beat 10 seconds to 100m. And on and on. We'll probably get a sub 2 hour marathon in my lifetime, and I might even bet a pound it's some geezer from the Kalenjin tribe, but it won't be for a long while.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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bigandclever said:
I don't know. It had to happen some time. It's a shame there's sour grapes though ... the Swede who finished 12th broke their national record. But because someone else is faster "I do not really believe that she is 100 per cent (clean). It is too easy for her". Train harder, love, you might get there, but I doubt it. Some people are just machines. It was impossible to run a 4 minute mile. It was impossible to do an ironman. It was impossible to beat 10 seconds to 100m. And on and on. We'll probably get a sub 2 hour marathon in my lifetime, and I might even bet a pound it's some geezer from the Kalenjin tribe, but it won't be for a long while.
It's not really sour grapes though, if your a pro athlete and win you expect to be drug tested and the quicker they announce she's clean the better.

If you win by a massive amount you know what people are going to think so you just silence them by the results of your drug test.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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A good hill session for me today, painful but a good session.

Followed by joining my girlfriend for a Couch-2-13.1 session which was a nice shakeout.

Heading for my longest duration training week in a while, even if it's not the longest in terms of mileage.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Park run for me today and out with the brother in law tomorrow training for his ironman so 10-13 miles i think.

Tycho

11,554 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Nice 19 miler today and only 1 more long run until the taper starts for Farnham and Purbeck in sept. Still on course in the training.

The jiffle king

6,894 posts

257 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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6 laps of Haw creek trail which is between 2.9 and 3 miles per lap measured, but my watch only got 14.6 miles, my mate got 16.6 and another person for 12 miles for 4 laps.... Found it really tough after mile reps on Thursday night but good to get out and about. Went for a short swim and a long stretch afterwards

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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Tough long run for me today. Ran out of fuel a little bit and my legs-already tired from the hill session yesterday-struggled to deal with a long ascent and steps in the middle of the run. But still-12 miles in the bank so not too bad.

Edit: Holy crap my legs are sore this afternoon. Think I might have overcooked this weekend a bit!

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 14th August 17:02

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th August 2016
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Was it just me, or was the women's Olympic marathon pretty shoddily organised? They seemed to struggle with protesters getting in the leader's way during the final mile, chucked in turn after turn after turn to bulk up the distance on the course, and couldn't stop athletes from getting in each other's way within the finish funnel etc.

Superb stuff from USA, with 3 top 10 places. Really chuffed for Shelane Flannagan, who ran a smart race but lacked that oomph to be in medal contention towards the final 5k.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

220 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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How is the jump from 5k to 10k?

I've been doing 5ks (Parkrun) for 12 weeks now from scratch having been poorly for many years, I've knocked nearly 10 minutes off of my time (down to just over 25 minutes now), with intervals in the middle of the week usually. That's my only fitness work as it stands.

There are a series of 10ks coming up at my workplace so I'm very tempted as a next step towards the Bath Half next March. I'm not after a fast time, more so making sure I can make the leap from 5 to 10 comfortably before I start proper training for the half over the winter.

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Edited by ukaskew on Tuesday 16th August 10:52

Smitters

3,995 posts

156 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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ukaskew said:
How is the jump from 5k to 10k?

I've been doing 5ks (Parkrun) for 12 weeks now from scratch having been poorly for many years, I've knocked nearly 10 minutes off of my time (down to just over 25 minutes now), with intervals in the middle of the week usually. That's my only fitness work as it stands.

There are a series of 10ks coming up at my workplace so I'm very tempted as a next step towards the Bath Half next March. I'm not after a fast time, more so making sure I can make the leap from 5 to 10 comfortably before I start proper training for the half over the winter.
Don't make it a leap would be my advice - If you Parkrun regularly, what about doing a 1km warm-up first, them make it 1.5km, then 2km and so on? Doing it before the Parkrun means even though you're a bit more tired, you're getting dragged along by the crowd come the end of your run. Trying to do it afterwards would be much harder. I did the same training for a marathon a while back, and ran five miles before a half marathon race, so got 18 miles in, but was cheered round the last few miles when the going got tough. No way I could have done the five miles solo after the race!

Re doping - it's one thing being clean in the post race test, but there are clearly ways of avoiding being caught in training blocks, letting the drugs exit the system and then performing well in competition. I guess it's why I feel dopers should just be banned. How long do the doped training benefits last? It's a difficult time to be an clean and highly talented athlete though. I don't remember the same level of suspicion around Radcliffe during her peak marathon running.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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ukaskew said:
How is the jump from 5k to 10k?

I've been doing 5ks (Parkrun) for 12 weeks now from scratch having been poorly for many years, I've knocked nearly 10 minutes off of my time (down to just over 25 minutes now), with intervals in the middle of the week usually. That's my only fitness work as it stands.

There are a series of 10ks coming up at my workplace so I'm very tempted as a next step towards the Bath Half next March. I'm not after a fast time, more so making sure I can make the leap from 5 to 10 comfortably before I start proper training for the half over the winter.

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Edited by ukaskew on Tuesday 16th August 10:52
Consider joining a club.

Most do 6 plus miles so drop down to a slower speed group and get your miles up without really thinking about it.

This guy also does good training plans http://halhigdon.com/training/51122/10K-Novice-Tra...

RizzoTheRat

25,083 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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First time I ever ran 10km in one go was in a race, I'd done 7.5km a couple of times and 10km once but with breaks after 5 and 7.5km. I figured just keep it steady and I'd get there. Took me 65 minutes but I got there in the end. If you can run 5km you run 10km, just more slowly.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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ukaskew said:
How is the jump from 5k to 10k?

I've been doing 5ks (Parkrun) for 12 weeks now from scratch having been poorly for many years, I've knocked nearly 10 minutes off of my time (down to just over 25 minutes now), with intervals in the middle of the week usually. That's my only fitness work as it stands.

There are a series of 10ks coming up at my workplace so I'm very tempted as a next step towards the Bath Half next March. I'm not after a fast time, more so making sure I can make the leap from 5 to 10 comfortably before I start proper training for the half over the winter.
I'll be a contrary voice to the other advice. If you feel ready, go for it. 25 minute 5K's suggest a fair base of fitness. But given that your body is going to be taking a bit more impact I'd still suggest some degree of introduction - introduce a 10K run every couple of weeks rather than weekly and see how you get on. Listen to your body and you'll be alright - that's the main thing.

egor110

16,817 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th August 2016
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tenohfive said:
I'll be a contrary voice to the other advice. If you feel ready, go for it. 25 minute 5K's suggest a fair base of fitness. But given that your body is going to be taking a bit more impact I'd still suggest some degree of introduction - introduce a 10K run every couple of weeks rather than weekly and see how you get on. Listen to your body and you'll be alright - that's the main thing.
Follow that hal higdon plan i linked and you properly build up over 6 weeks starting with a long run of 3 miles and increasing it, you'd then only do 6 miles once during training and on race day.

Dr Murdoch

3,427 posts

134 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Morning

Does running in wet running shoes damage either you or the shoes?

I've picked up a heel injury after running in wet shoes, not sure if its one of those things, or it was because the shoes were wet.

Ive rested for four weeks, but still got sore heels/ankles when I went out last night for a gentle 4miler. Possibly damaged the shoes? Time for a new pair?

Tycho

11,554 posts

272 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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I've never had any issues with wet shoes and I quite often stick them in the washing machine with my sweaty kit after a run if they are a bit too sweaty. I'd not run with them wet though if I can help it as they may slip a bit more and give blisters than dry trainers would.

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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I quite often run in races that require the participant to get a lot wet, never had any issues arising from it. It's even pretty fun on occasions.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

102 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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SHutchinson said:
I quite often run in races that require the participant to get a lot wet, never had any issues arising from it. It's even pretty fun on occasions.
Many races have showers throughout the course too, quite refreshing I bet, looking forward to it.

The jiffle king

6,894 posts

257 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Dr Murdoch said:
Morning

Does running in wet running shoes damage either you or the shoes?

I've picked up a heel injury after running in wet shoes, not sure if its one of those things, or it was because the shoes were wet.

Ive rested for four weeks, but still got sore heels/ankles when I went out last night for a gentle 4miler. Possibly damaged the shoes? Time for a new pair?
Usually not, but it could be the socks or the wrong fitting of a shoe which causes it to rub

tenohfive

6,276 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th August 2016
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Dr Murdoch said:
Morning

Does running in wet running shoes damage either you or the shoes?

I've picked up a heel injury after running in wet shoes, not sure if its one of those things, or it was because the shoes were wet.

Ive rested for four weeks, but still got sore heels/ankles when I went out last night for a gentle 4miler. Possibly damaged the shoes? Time for a new pair?
Get some medical attention - shoes are designed to get wet. If the shoes were poorly fitting then wet/slippery conditions could have exacerbated it, but I wouldn't be rushing to replace the shoes. Get yourself sorted first and whoever you see - physio/chiropodist etc - will be able to advise on how well the shoes are fitting.