The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Cybertronian said:
Whilst I'm not a triathlete, I can imagine it must feel dreadful having to embark on a long run after a long bike ride.
Its funny how the mind works. You're kindof relieved to be off the bike cause no matter how much you like riding (and I really do) you are SICK of the sight of the damn thing!Cybertronian said:
I would just stick with the Cloud Runners that you've been using in training, though perhaps get a fresh pair now so that you can break them in properly in time for the race.
Which is exactly what I did. I was using Saucony Triumph ISO's and about 3-4 weeks before my IM. I took a new pair out and did (from memory) 3-4 10K ish runs to just bed them in. Then didn't use them again until race day.egor110 said:
Surely you need to get your running gait analysed , especially if your doing a ironman .
I could recommend trainers that work for me but i really over pronate and if you say under pronate you'd probably end up getting injured.
Ive had this done, Neutral gait so no issues there really. I could recommend trainers that work for me but i really over pronate and if you say under pronate you'd probably end up getting injured.
f
ked my fking ankle again, fk.
That's three times in a year that I've badly rolled one of them.
Out on a morning run and there's a tunnel that takes me onto an old railway. On the way out the lights were off but I was able to make my way by the light at the end as it goes uphill on the way out.
On the way back I wasn't going to go through unless the lights were on, which they were at the entrance. About halfway down the light at halfway went out and I realised the lights from halfway onwards were out, leaving me in darkness and you can't get a fix the same way on the end as you can on the way up.
I backed right off and was doing ok until I was nearly out and then..BANG. I'd drifted off the raised edge of the path and had rolled my ankle on the edge. I ended up falling into the railway stones still on the edge, and I'm not going to lie-I was a bit scared and shaken up as it happened so suddenly in the pitch black.
Looks like another month or more out for me and probably puts my goal of a sub 1:20 half marathon in doubt.
ked my fking ankle again, fk.That's three times in a year that I've badly rolled one of them.
Out on a morning run and there's a tunnel that takes me onto an old railway. On the way out the lights were off but I was able to make my way by the light at the end as it goes uphill on the way out.
On the way back I wasn't going to go through unless the lights were on, which they were at the entrance. About halfway down the light at halfway went out and I realised the lights from halfway onwards were out, leaving me in darkness and you can't get a fix the same way on the end as you can on the way up.
I backed right off and was doing ok until I was nearly out and then..BANG. I'd drifted off the raised edge of the path and had rolled my ankle on the edge. I ended up falling into the railway stones still on the edge, and I'm not going to lie-I was a bit scared and shaken up as it happened so suddenly in the pitch black.
Looks like another month or more out for me and probably puts my goal of a sub 1:20 half marathon in doubt.
Bad luck - can you put much body weight on it or wear an ankle support to speed up recovery?
Almost ended up in fisticuffs with a toe-rag tonight. Purposely ran wide of him, only for him to then go out of his way to step in my path and try to trip me up, which I successfully jumped over, only for him to then try and push me over. Heart rate was proper amped up and I could feel the adrenaline surging as I traded a few choice words with him. Capping off a less than stellar run, a pair of shoes I was breaking in and hoping to race a half marathon with on Sunday gave me a pretty painful blister...
Almost ended up in fisticuffs with a
toe-rag tonight. Purposely ran wide of him, only for him to then go out of his way to step in my path and try to trip me up, which I successfully jumped over, only for him to then try and push me over. Heart rate was proper amped up and I could feel the adrenaline surging as I traded a few choice words with him. Capping off a less than stellar run, a pair of shoes I was breaking in and hoping to race a half marathon with on Sunday gave me a pretty painful blister...Cybertronian said:
Bad luck - can you put much body weight on it or wear an ankle support to speed up recovery?
I don't think so, the issue I often find is that once the swelling goes down after about a week or so the joint is still quite jammed up, which would rip my achilles up if I tried to run on it. I have to wait for the joint to loosen up which takes the time.Lots of swimming for me in the next few weeks I think.
Cybertronian said:
Almost ended up in fisticuffs with a toe-rag tonight. Purposely ran wide of him, only for him to then go out of his way to step in my path and try to trip me up, which I successfully jumped over, only for him to then try and push me over. Heart rate was proper amped up and I could feel the adrenaline surging as I traded a few choice words with him. Capping off a less than stellar run, a pair of shoes I was breaking in and hoping to race a half marathon with on Sunday gave me a pretty painful blister...
That sucks! I think I've been quote fortunate and not encountered too many idiots on my runs. I did have a yoghurt pot thrown at me once from a car which was more wtf than anything. Besides the usual 'run forrest run' (because they're so original and it isn't the thousandth time I've heard it toe-rag tonight. Purposely ran wide of him, only for him to then go out of his way to step in my path and try to trip me up, which I successfully jumped over, only for him to then try and push me over. Heart rate was proper amped up and I could feel the adrenaline surging as I traded a few choice words with him. Capping off a less than stellar run, a pair of shoes I was breaking in and hoping to race a half marathon with on Sunday gave me a pretty painful blister...
) I don't really seem to get anything. cookie118 said:
That sucks! I think I've been quote fortunate and not encountered too many idiots on my runs. I did have a yoghurt pot thrown at me once from a car which was more wtf than anything. Besides the usual 'run forrest run' (because they're so original and it isn't the thousandth time I've heard it ) I don't really seem to get anything.
It doesn't happen too often thankfully. I've had similar "Run, Forest, run" jibes in the past.) I don't really seem to get anything. For balance, I'm sometimes met with nice encouragement from complete strangers. Recently, a little old Asian lady was out for a Sunday walk and saw me running at pace in her direction - she gave me two thumbs up and a smile, which gave me a nice boost for a couple of miles. Another time, a guy in a car stopped to let me cross the road, wound down his window and began hollering, "Go on, mate! Go for it! Woo, woo, woo!" and then started fist pumping the air out of the window as he drove away!
egor110 said:
Doing the post today out in the sticks i was talking to a runner having a rest, turns out he's run from liverpool down to plymouth and when i met him he was on his way back to Liverpool!
His plan was to get to Bristol tonight although the hot weather wasn't helping.
He's doing it for cancer research and he's fking nuts because when he gets back on friday he's then heading up scaffell pike at the weekend for charity!
Here's his just giving page if anyone fancies helping out - https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Barry-Donog...
Well he's done it , back to Liverpool tonight His plan was to get to Bristol tonight although the hot weather wasn't helping.
He's doing it for cancer research and he's f
king nuts because when he gets back on friday he's then heading up scaffell pike at the weekend for charity!Here's his just giving page if anyone fancies helping out - https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Barry-Donog...
Edited by egor110 on Tuesday 30th August 15:30
If anyone has a pound or two spare he's raising money for cancer research , most of us have/will come into contact with this disease during our lives.
https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/Barry-Donog...
Well I completed my first 10k today and I'm not 100% sure of my time but it's about 45 mins which I'm really happy with. Ran at a steady pace and had no pain or aches whilst running, my new Nike Pegasus trainers felt amazing to run in and made a huge difference to my time I felt.
Can't wait to do the next one
Can't wait to do the next one
ewenm said:
Ran the 3.x miles to parkrun this morning to do my first "timed event" of my 40s - finished first in 17:26 despite stopping to peg open a gate that a marshall had forgotten to open. Happy enough with that as a V40 starting point.
Seems like a reasonable platform to build onjohnwilliams77 said:
ewenm said:
Ran the 3.x miles to parkrun this morning to do my first "timed event" of my 40s - finished first in 17:26 despite stopping to peg open a gate that a marshall had forgotten to open. Happy enough with that as a V40 starting point.
Seems like a reasonable platform to build onMothersruin said:
I'm gong to join my local club. Hope they're happy with a knacker.
99% of local clubs are very friendly and have people of all paces. It takes a couple of weeks to understand the training but there are usually a few nice people who will chat to you and pace is not importantJust back home from possibly the worst race I've had in the last couple of years. Went to the Kenilworth Half Marathon with intentions to PB as part of this marathon campaign I've been waging, where I've achieved sizable improvements over 5k and 10k and all round improvements in terms of endurance.
I didn't account for the potential that I'm overtrained and have been carrying some sort of underlying bug to leave me feeling flat all week...
Went out at PB pace, and on an undulating route, I had little left after 3 or 4 miles and slowed to around a minute off PB pace. For comparison, last Sunday's training run of 13.1 miles at marathon pace actually came out faster than today!
Have decided drastic and immediate action is needed to salvage and avoid derailing my marathon in 5 weeks, so I'm taking the next week off from running in a desperate bid to recover. Thankfully, there aren't any key sessions on the schedule for the week, so the rest can only do me good and should allow me to jump back into the remaining key week before tapering.
Beware of overtraining - it's very real!
I didn't account for the potential that I'm overtrained and have been carrying some sort of underlying bug to leave me feeling flat all week...
Went out at PB pace, and on an undulating route, I had little left after 3 or 4 miles and slowed to around a minute off PB pace. For comparison, last Sunday's training run of 13.1 miles at marathon pace actually came out faster than today!
Have decided drastic and immediate action is needed to salvage and avoid derailing my marathon in 5 weeks, so I'm taking the next week off from running in a desperate bid to recover. Thankfully, there aren't any key sessions on the schedule for the week, so the rest can only do me good and should allow me to jump back into the remaining key week before tapering.
Beware of overtraining - it's very real!
The jiffle king said:
Mothersruin said:
I'm gong to join my local club. Hope they're happy with a knacker.
99% of local clubs are very friendly and have people of all paces. It takes a couple of weeks to understand the training but there are usually a few nice people who will chat to you and pace is not importantDo you want very quick runners who will push you but there normally boring and talk about nothing than running
or do you want a more social club that has a wide range of runners and when you can't be assed to go out in the rain give you that nudge to get you out the door?The club i go to has lots of groups for all different speeds , in jan a group splinters off and trains for London marathon and another group of us have splintered off and focused more on off road running and there's a cycling group once a week that cycles 15-20 miles to a pub somewhere.
egor110 said:
The jiffle king said:
Mothersruin said:
I'm gong to join my local club. Hope they're happy with a knacker.
99% of local clubs are very friendly and have people of all paces. It takes a couple of weeks to understand the training but there are usually a few nice people who will chat to you and pace is not importantDo you want very quick runners who will push you but there normally boring and talk about nothing than running
or do you want a more social club that has a wide range of runners and when you can't be assed to go out in the rain give you that nudge to get you out the door?The club i go to has lots of groups for all different speeds , in jan a group splinters off and trains for London marathon and another group of us have splintered off and focused more on off road running and there's a cycling group once a week that cycles 15-20 miles to a pub somewhere.
I need to be fit for stuff I do. I run a few times a week when I can but its not a structured plan. I'm also out in the hills walking with weight often but I need to improve my cardio. I'm a 6 minute km guy at the moment and I'd like to drop that to 5 minutes.
I'm a real plodder so want to work on technique.
Mothersruin said:
egor110 said:
The jiffle king said:
Mothersruin said:
I'm gong to join my local club. Hope they're happy with a knacker.
99% of local clubs are very friendly and have people of all paces. It takes a couple of weeks to understand the training but there are usually a few nice people who will chat to you and pace is not importantDo you want very quick runners who will push you but there normally boring and talk about nothing than running
or do you want a more social club that has a wide range of runners and when you can't be assed to go out in the rain give you that nudge to get you out the door?The club i go to has lots of groups for all different speeds , in jan a group splinters off and trains for London marathon and another group of us have splintered off and focused more on off road running and there's a cycling group once a week that cycles 15-20 miles to a pub somewhere.
I need to be fit for stuff I do. I run a few times a week when I can but its not a structured plan. I'm also out in the hills walking with weight often but I need to improve my cardio. I'm a 6 minute km guy at the moment and I'd like to drop that to 5 minutes.
I'm a real plodder so want to work on technique.
Re the hills it's taken me ages to trust the theory but on a long race power walking up the hills is quickest over the whole race distance ( has to be a proper steep hill and power walk up it not stroll )
Also you said you have no structured plan , that's always a recipe for overdoing it and ending up injured , get races entered and write your training plan down to keep you on track.
Just found this thread - doing a 10k in 4 weeks time and want to know how best to keep training for it.
Not a runner, more of a cyclist, but wanted to make sure I was still able to run (39yo) and also do some training to strengthen my lower back, which seems to be working.
Am upping training distance each week, last run measured out at 4.3k in 21 minutes with +/- 50 metres elevation over the route. Based on that, a race prediction calculator reckoned I could aim for a 51 minute 10k which feels a bit fast to me. But also my running pace feels natural, in that if I intentionally slowed down I wouldn't really save much energy as it wouldn't be as efficient. I'm 6ft5 so have a pretty big stride anyway, although am focusing on keeping my cadence up rather than reaching with my legs.
So should I slow a little to be able to manage the full distance, or work on increasing stamina at my current pace?
Not a runner, more of a cyclist, but wanted to make sure I was still able to run (39yo) and also do some training to strengthen my lower back, which seems to be working.
Am upping training distance each week, last run measured out at 4.3k in 21 minutes with +/- 50 metres elevation over the route. Based on that, a race prediction calculator reckoned I could aim for a 51 minute 10k which feels a bit fast to me. But also my running pace feels natural, in that if I intentionally slowed down I wouldn't really save much energy as it wouldn't be as efficient. I'm 6ft5 so have a pretty big stride anyway, although am focusing on keeping my cadence up rather than reaching with my legs.
So should I slow a little to be able to manage the full distance, or work on increasing stamina at my current pace?
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