The Running Thread Vol 2

[Rosscow]

11 miles at 7:30 pace on Saturday.

Also did a quick hilly 5 miles in 33 minutes the other day.

Back to track tomorrow after a week off. Felt a bit lost since completing the last ‘goal’ of the local half marathon so have decided to enter some 10k races to give me something to work towards before training starts for the next half in October - Cardiff.

[y2blade]

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!

Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.

Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.

I did Brighton yesterday... include some hill training as it's not as flat as they make out! Nothing steep but a few draining climbs. I'd carry on lifting as core and leg strength will be critical - maybe drop to twice a week as your mileage increases.

Don't wait until your 18 week plan starts either - build a consistent running base as soon as you can and then supplement it with tempo and interval runs. YMMV but I find that I need around 6 months of consistent higher volume rather than three - but I'm an old git so you may not need as much!

I’m including running, starting tonight.
I’m nearly 50 btw . And thanks for the helpful reply.

[smn159]

y2blade said:

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!

Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.

Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.

I did Brighton yesterday... include some hill training as it's not as flat as they make out! Nothing steep but a few draining climbs. I'd carry on lifting as core and leg strength will be critical - maybe drop to twice a week as your mileage increases.

Don't wait until your 18 week plan starts either - build a consistent running base as soon as you can and then supplement it with tempo and interval runs. YMMV but I find that I need around 6 months of consistent higher volume rather than three - but I'm an old git so you may not need as much!

I’m including running, starting tonight.
I’m nearly 50 btw . And thanks for the helpful reply.

Good luck! It's a great event, really well organised and with great support. The route change this year (I think) to avoid the power station worked really well

[y2blade]

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!

Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.

Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.

I did Brighton yesterday... include some hill training as it's not as flat as they make out! Nothing steep but a few draining climbs. I'd carry on lifting as core and leg strength will be critical - maybe drop to twice a week as your mileage increases.

Don't wait until your 18 week plan starts either - build a consistent running base as soon as you can and then supplement it with tempo and interval runs. YMMV but I find that I need around 6 months of consistent higher volume rather than three - but I'm an old git so you may not need as much!

I’m including running, starting tonight.
I’m nearly 50 btw . And thanks for the helpful reply.

Good luck! It's a great event, really well organised and with great support. The route change this year (I think) to avoid the power station worked really well

I love Brighton Marathon
I ran it in 2017 and 2019 then switched to resistance training as I’d shifted the body fat.
Fantastic to hear they changed the route. The power station area was soul crushing.

Tonight’s run went well, nice steady 5k in the rain as a benchmark.

Thanks again mate. I’ll update my progress etc.

[dieselgrunt]

Completed the Southampton half marathon and it was a lot tougher than I anticipated. The wind was extremely strong over the bridges and there were a lot of tough hills. Brilliant crowds though and very well managed.

[Rosscow]

dieselgrunt said:

Completed the Southampton half marathon and it was a lot tougher than I anticipated. The wind was extremely strong over the bridges and there were a lot of tough hills. Brilliant crowds though and very well managed.

My running mate came 3rd. Looked a good event!

[tim jb]

Can anyone recommend a pair a waterproof / gortex running shoes that are suitable for wet pavement as well as trail? Most of the waterproof shoes I've seen are trail suitable only due to the soles, which look like they'd be slippy on paved areas

[smn159]

tim jb said:

Can anyone recommend a pair a waterproof / gortex running shoes that are suitable for wet pavement as well as trail? Most of the waterproof shoes I've seen are trail suitable only due to the soles, which look like they'd be slippy on paved areas

I wouldn't bother personally - I run in all weathers in ordinary road shoes and they're fine. Trouble with waterproof is that water will still get in down the sides, but then it just stays there

[TeaNoSugar]

smn159 said:

tim jb said:

Can anyone recommend a pair a waterproof / gortex running shoes that are suitable for wet pavement as well as trail? Most of the waterproof shoes I've seen are trail suitable only due to the soles, which look like they'd be slippy on paved areas

I wouldn't bother personally - I run in all weathers in ordinary road shoes and they're fine. Trouble with waterproof is that water will still get in down the sides, but then it just stays there

This is the point I was going to make. Waterproof/Goretex running shoes are a crap idea. The water will eventually get in. When it does, it’s very hard to get it out again. I find that very “porous” shoes are much better. Let the water in, but within a minute the water is mostly forced back out by your running.
Gore-tex trail shoes are the absolute worst. Once they’re damp or wet you e got wet squelchy mud and water in your shoes for ages. And then they tend to rot quickly as well.

[Rosscow]

I did 2 very wet cross country comps this winter in my GoreTex Saucony trail shoes and thought they were excellent!

Feet very dry after both runs.

[ben5575]

I use inov8 Parkclaw knits. https://www.sportsshoes.com/product/ino2095/parkcl...

They're fine for the black stuff and have generally been good on trails. Obviously not mudclaws/talons, but like you I wanted a something that performed on and off trail.

As above comments, if I'm running through mud/puddles like I was this morning on the very boggy n.york moors, I want something that drains really quickly and wear sealskin water proof socks underneath.

Signed up to my first fell run of the year in a couple of weeks last night as well.

[KTF]

dieselgrunt said:

Completed the Southampton half marathon and it was a lot tougher than I anticipated. The wind was extremely strong over the bridges and there were a lot of tough hills. Brilliant crowds though and very well managed.

I have been a pacer (half then 10k for the past 2 events) at Southampton since it started. This year was by far the worst conditions weather wise as the wind was dreadful.

Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be heading over the bridge to Woolston but coming back you were being blown all over the place running in to it.

Thankfully the 10k misses out the climb from Riverside Park to the Common via the University which always takes it out of you. I certainly wouldn't want to be doing two laps of the course like the marathon runners do

It is a well organised event though and they have been fine tuning it over the years.

Btw, if you think the hills at Southampton are tough then you should see the ones at the Winchester half that they put on. 5k of uphill from the start then another bump from 10 - 14k

https://www.strava.com/routes/2726094827690632274?...

[Rosscow]

I raise you - Hastings Half Marathon

Almost 1000ft of elevation, with almost all of the first 5 miles uphill, a few more hills up to 9 miles then 2.5 miles along the coast into a strong westerley.

Savage!

https://www.goodrunguide.co.uk/ElevationGraph.asp?...

[KTF]

That looks delightful

I gave up pacing Winchester as it wasnt 'fun' anymore and was fed up being broken by the end of it. It is a scenic course but hard going.

[Rosscow]

Managed a 91:37, gutted not to go under 90 minutes but the last 2 miles were just horrendous into the wind and was thankful just to finish!

Go back stronger next year....

[y2blade]

y2blade said:

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

smn159 said:

y2blade said:

Welp. Signed up for Brighton Marathon 2025 last night.
I’ve not ran properly since 2019!!!!

Been doing resistance training since then so time to change my routine for a bit.

Any pointers? Should I continue to lift but less often? Currently lifting three times a week for an hour a time.

I did Brighton yesterday... include some hill training as it's not as flat as they make out! Nothing steep but a few draining climbs. I'd carry on lifting as core and leg strength will be critical - maybe drop to twice a week as your mileage increases.

Don't wait until your 18 week plan starts either - build a consistent running base as soon as you can and then supplement it with tempo and interval runs. YMMV but I find that I need around 6 months of consistent higher volume rather than three - but I'm an old git so you may not need as much!

I’m including running, starting tonight.
I’m nearly 50 btw . And thanks for the helpful reply.

Good luck! It's a great event, really well organised and with great support. The route change this year (I think) to avoid the power station worked really well

I love Brighton Marathon
I ran it in 2017 and 2019 then switched to resistance training as I’d shifted the body fat.
Fantastic to hear they changed the route. The power station area was soul crushing.

Tonight’s run went well, nice steady 5k in the rain as a benchmark.

Thanks again mate. I’ll update my progress etc.

Well lots of stretching yesterday and again today.
Popping out again tonight for a short run.

Got a gait analysis session booked at the weekend. But from what I can see from my trainers wear I am pretty neautral.

[bristolbaron]

Gentlemen. A support question if possible:

Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:



With a pair of shorts without a lining.

I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.

I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?

For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear

[y2blade]

bristolbaron said:

Gentlemen. A support question if possible:

Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:



With a pair of shorts without a lining.

I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.

I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?

For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear

I’ve only ever ran in my regular underwear (same style as yours).

[Pete102]

With a good liner I usually forego any underwear! If not, then you can always wear an under armor style boxer underneath.

[ajap1979]

Rosscow said:

I raise you - Hastings Half Marathon

Almost 1000ft of elevation, with almost all of the first 5 miles uphill, a few more hills up to 9 miles then 2.5 miles along the coast into a strong westerley.

Savage!

https://www.goodrunguide.co.uk/ElevationGraph.asp?...

It's weird how the downhills never quite make up for the uphills. I do the Holmfirth Harriers 10k every year and it has 700ft of elevation, condensed into two stretches, it's hell.