The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
ajap1979 said:
It's weird how the downhills never quite make up for the uphills. I do the Holmfirth Harriers 10k every year and it has 700ft of elevation, condensed into two stretches, it's hell.
Yeah, the downhills end up being recovery from the uphills rather than a section you can actually gain some time on! bristolbaron said:
Gentlemen. A support question if possible:
Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:
With a pair of shorts without a lining.
I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.
I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?
For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear
I only run in shorts with an inner pant or built in lycra inner shorts. Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:
With a pair of shorts without a lining.
I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.
I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?
For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear
Much more comfortable than standard cotton boxer shorts, in my experience (certainly on longer runs).
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
smn159 said:
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
take banana throughout and some ibuprofen in liquid/sachet form. that'll get you over the line in good shape. My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
smn159 said:
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
How fast are you running?My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
What others do is irrelevant to you, you need to find what works!
joshcowin said:
smn159 said:
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
How fast are you running?My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
What others do is irrelevant to you, you need to find what works!
Doesn't feel too quick for me, but I suppose it's possible - just looking for ideas as I clearly need to change something!
bristolbaron said:
Gentlemen. A support question if possible:
Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:
With a pair of shorts without a lining.
I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.
I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?
For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear
Runderwear running boxers were a revelation. I was sceptical at first but they keep everything in place and stopped the discomfort I was getting on longer runs.Currently I run in my everyday boxers - trunk style like this:
With a pair of shorts without a lining.
I was at an outlet place yesterday and looked for another pair of shorts. Looking in New Balance/Asics/Adidas, all of their running shorts either had an internal ‘pant’ or Lycra inner short.
I’d made me question whether I should be running with more support and if so how I’d wear these things?! I can’t see either being comfortable with current boxers so would I need briefs or wear the shorts without?
For 5k runs it seems a bit of a chore to change underwear
RabidGranny said:
smn159 said:
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
take banana throughout and some ibuprofen in liquid/sachet form. that'll get you over the line in good shape. My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
https://www.runnersworld.com/health-injuries/a2083...
Fuelling in any long run is about doing it little and often - don't leave it too late into a run to start refuelling
smn159 said:
averaged 5:15 / km for 20 miles, which was about 82 / 83% of max HR, bit more on the hills (up to 85%). Had a similar experience at London last year but put that down to having had the flu in the build up.
Doesn't feel too quick for me, but I suppose it's possible - just looking for ideas as I clearly need to change something!
Are actively looking at your watch/HR during the race?Doesn't feel too quick for me, but I suppose it's possible - just looking for ideas as I clearly need to change something!
For 2 days prior to the race what did you eat/drink?
joshcowin said:
smn159 said:
averaged 5:15 / km for 20 miles, which was about 82 / 83% of max HR, bit more on the hills (up to 85%). Had a similar experience at London last year but put that down to having had the flu in the build up.
Doesn't feel too quick for me, but I suppose it's possible - just looking for ideas as I clearly need to change something!
Are actively looking at your watch/HR during the race?Doesn't feel too quick for me, but I suppose it's possible - just looking for ideas as I clearly need to change something!
For 2 days prior to the race what did you eat/drink?
smn159 said:
Watch, yes I was pretty careful with the pace... HR, no. Good point about nutrition / hydration. I did eat a bit more pasta for 3 days beforehand but looking back I could have paid more attention to hydration.
I would say that diet, hydration and sleep for the 3 days/nights before is really important.I swear by lucozade sport, I have a bottle a day on top of usual water and tea before I race. Morning of the race, water down half a bottle of the lucozade sport, small amount of water, a nice cup of tea and some banana bread.
I find real food before a proper effort is important, I then run on just watered down gels in a soft flask and grab a small bit of water every 5ish km.
If I were you I would concentrate on days before, a real bit of food the morning of, water during the race with 2 or 3 gels with no caffine in them. I would drop the sweets if I am being honest also.
I will stress, this is so personal the above may not work at all for you!
joshcowin said:
smn159 said:
Watch, yes I was pretty careful with the pace... HR, no. Good point about nutrition / hydration. I did eat a bit more pasta for 3 days beforehand but looking back I could have paid more attention to hydration.
I would say that diet, hydration and sleep for the 3 days/nights before is really important.I swear by lucozade sport, I have a bottle a day on top of usual water and tea before I race. Morning of the race, water down half a bottle of the lucozade sport, small amount of water, a nice cup of tea and some banana bread.
I find real food before a proper effort is important, I then run on just watered down gels in a soft flask and grab a small bit of water every 5ish km.
If I were you I would concentrate on days before, a real bit of food the morning of, water during the race with 2 or 3 gels with no caffine in them. I would drop the sweets if I am being honest also.
I will stress, this is so personal the above may not work at all for you!
markh1973 said:
RabidGranny said:
smn159 said:
Did Brighton Marathon on Sunday and while I finished it, the last 10k could best be described as hell on Earth. Was cruising comfortably for 20 miles, chatting to a few people, then it was like the batteries in my legs died. Had been taking Mountain Fuel gels (20g carbs) every 30 mins and jelly babies every other km (until I couldn't stomach them any more), plus water every 5k.
My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
take banana throughout and some ibuprofen in liquid/sachet form. that'll get you over the line in good shape. My training had been pretty good - 16 week plan with 7 long runs (2 x 20 milers which were both fine) and averaging about 70km / week up to a max of 96km. I did lose a couple of weeks with a cold about 5 weeks out.
How are those of you who run marathons preparing and fueling yourselves for the last 10k?
https://www.runnersworld.com/health-injuries/a2083...
Fuelling in any long run is about doing it little and often - don't leave it too late into a run to start refuelling
If you are doing London, a few hints
- Cut your toenails this weekend
- Eat the same meal on Saturday before your last long run as you will next Saturday night
- Dial down the training... you can only get injured now
- Keep hydrated this week coming. You body is preparing for the big run
- Pick your number up earlier in the week rather than later.. much less busy
- Get your kit bag ready on Thursday and pin your number to the vest as soon as you get home
- Stop drinking alcohol (it dehydrates you)
- get some sleep... lots of it if you can
I know this is basic stuff but it's only 9 days
- Cut your toenails this weekend
- Eat the same meal on Saturday before your last long run as you will next Saturday night
- Dial down the training... you can only get injured now
- Keep hydrated this week coming. You body is preparing for the big run
- Pick your number up earlier in the week rather than later.. much less busy
- Get your kit bag ready on Thursday and pin your number to the vest as soon as you get home
- Stop drinking alcohol (it dehydrates you)
- get some sleep... lots of it if you can
I know this is basic stuff but it's only 9 days
The jiffle king said:
If you are doing London, a few hints
- Cut your toenails this weekend
- Eat the same meal on Saturday before your last long run as you will next Saturday night
- Dial down the training... you can only get injured now
- Keep hydrated this week coming. You body is preparing for the big run
- Pick your number up earlier in the week rather than later.. much less busy
- Get your kit bag ready on Thursday and pin your number to the vest as soon as you get home
- Stop drinking alcohol (it dehydrates you)
- get some sleep... lots of it if you can
I know this is basic stuff but it's only 9 days
But if you don't follow any of that advice then relax it's only a marathon. If you go into it worried that you haven't done everything you could have done then you'll be so stressed then even if you have done all of those things you won't be in great shape.- Cut your toenails this weekend
- Eat the same meal on Saturday before your last long run as you will next Saturday night
- Dial down the training... you can only get injured now
- Keep hydrated this week coming. You body is preparing for the big run
- Pick your number up earlier in the week rather than later.. much less busy
- Get your kit bag ready on Thursday and pin your number to the vest as soon as you get home
- Stop drinking alcohol (it dehydrates you)
- get some sleep... lots of it if you can
I know this is basic stuff but it's only 9 days
Having got loads of fitness back I managed to twist my ankle whilst out drinking on Wednesday. Enforced rest when I'd got used to 5 days running a week again isn't going well and I'm only 3 days into it.
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