The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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egor110 said:
Smitters said:
F**king shin splits from running on the roads too much at work. Darkness, a head torch and the home trails, soft and squishy, beckon.

Bah.
what do you do that requires running on the road for a job?
I'm a thief. I've found the density of property in the urban environment means I operate at a much more efficient rate, giving me a better work-life balance. The pavements are bloody murder though, so I'm thinking of targeting bejewelled toffs on dark paths.

Or

I have a toddler and therefore have to make the most of my lunchtimes so I can be a good Dad. But mainly the thievery.

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Cybertronian said:
Gargamel said:
£59... I hope the T shirt is made of rubies or something...

A fair chunk of cash to go for a Jog wink

85 Minute half mara that is a decent pace. Congrats on your PB
ewenm said:
Bloody hell! £59! Hope it goes well. The guy who won the race I did on Sat is targeting Cardiff too with I assume a target of 68ish. Given how he's going at the moment, that should be well within his grasp.
Cheers, Gargamel! The PB has made my other distance PBs look completely soft - I now need to find an extra 30 seconds from somewhere to realign my 5k times...

It's not as bad as the Great Manchester Run at £38 for just a 10k! But yeah, still pricey. I paid full price as an unattached runner for an extra sting, whereas my club runner pals received a £5 discount. Had I have waited to enter, I'd have actually received £10 off for also participating in last October's Cardiff Half...

The in-laws are from around the area, so I've not got to factor in accommodation or food costs, and we were due to be there over Easter anyway, so multiple birds with one stone.
I think, to be fair, it's also the World Champs, so not something you can enter every year unless long flights are on the agenda. Closest I'd ever get to actually competing in a "proper" athletic, counts for something big championship (aside from the Gloucestershire County XC Champs of 1995... - beaten by a chap in rugby boots, the shame, the shame).

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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markh1973 said:
Sounds good

If you've been running marginally over parkrun distance in 30 minutes aiming for a 27 minute parkrun is a big reduction.

What's the parkrun course like (surface, hills etc) compared to your normal running route.
Very similar
Perhaps I will just aim for a sub 30 for my first one!

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
markh1973 said:
Sounds good

If you've been running marginally over parkrun distance in 30 minutes aiming for a 27 minute parkrun is a big reduction.

What's the parkrun course like (surface, hills etc) compared to your normal running route.
Very similar
Perhaps I will just aim for a sub 30 for my first one!
I think there's plenty left in be bag to get at least a 28...


MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd January 2016
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On my journey back to running, having strained my Soleus in October (and numerous times on each subsequent attempt to run), I increased the distance to 5k today. I had started off easy, but ended up chasing down another runner.

Encouragingly, I was able to Manage a 4:05 km without busting a gut on an undulating park route and then decided to ease off a bit.

I'll increase the distance, but take it easier for the next couple of weeks.


Moulder

1,466 posts

212 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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Moving from 10k to half a marathon (in 8 weeks), how difficult?

Background

Last summer I ran in six 10k races between May and July managing 48:55 in the last one.
I then did largely nothing for a month then ran (yes, all the way) in the Sydney City2Surf (14km, lumpy, 27 degrees) in 1:17:00

This year

Last December I started training for my first 10k of this year (March 7th), I train by adding a mile every 2 weeks (started at 2 miles) and am now at 6 miles which is where I normally stop (distance wise) as it is enough preparation for a 10k. I do this 2-3 times a week. Times so far:

2 miles: 18:22, 17:58, 18:13, 18:40, 18:13
3 miles: 26:31, 26:33, 26:23, 28:11, 27:33, 26:55
4 miles: 34:55, 34:54, 37:23, 35:00, 37:20
5 miles: 47:08, 45:40 (moved straight to 6 miles after a week)
6 miles: 54:03, 54:47

If you have stuck with it this far, thanks. In theory if I add a mile a week I will be up to 13 miles by the time the half marathon comes around. The course is dead flat so should be relatively "easy".

Questions are:

1/ Has anyone done anything like this and how did they get on?
2/ My action is more tired shire horse than gazelle, will my knees be cartilage free 5 weeks in?
3/ After 6 miles I am not physically at the point of not being able to take another step (my last mile is always the quickest by up to a minute). However, in my head I am happy that that's enough running for today, does this change as the distance rises?

Any other thoughts/suggestions gratefully received.


egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Saturday 23rd January 2016
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Moulder said:
Moving from 10k to half a marathon (in 8 weeks), how difficult?

Background

Last summer I ran in six 10k races between May and July managing 48:55 in the last one.
I then did largely nothing for a month then ran (yes, all the way) in the Sydney City2Surf (14km, lumpy, 27 degrees) in 1:17:00

This year

Last December I started training for my first 10k of this year (March 7th), I train by adding a mile every 2 weeks (started at 2 miles) and am now at 6 miles which is where I normally stop (distance wise) as it is enough preparation for a 10k. I do this 2-3 times a week. Times so far:

2 miles: 18:22, 17:58, 18:13, 18:40, 18:13
3 miles: 26:31, 26:33, 26:23, 28:11, 27:33, 26:55
4 miles: 34:55, 34:54, 37:23, 35:00, 37:20
5 miles: 47:08, 45:40 (moved straight to 6 miles after a week)
6 miles: 54:03, 54:47

If you have stuck with it this far, thanks. In theory if I add a mile a week I will be up to 13 miles by the time the half marathon comes around. The course is dead flat so should be relatively "easy".

Questions are:

1/ Has anyone done anything like this and how did they get on?
2/ My action is more tired shire horse than gazelle, will my knees be cartilage free 5 weeks in?
3/ After 6 miles I am not physically at the point of not being able to take another step (my last mile is always the quickest by up to a minute). However, in my head I am happy that that's enough running for today, does this change as the distance rises?

Any other thoughts/suggestions gratefully received.
I haven't run for years ( mid 2000's) but currently training for a half in april , this is what the plan i'm following.

If your already doing 10k/6 miles you could jump in at week 5.

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51131/Half-Marat...

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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You don't need to run 13 miles to be ready for a half.

Weekly mileage is the key to training, Aim for around 20 - 25 miles a week across three runs, and make you long slow run up to 10 miles.

With a sub 50m 10k you should be looking for about a 2 hour Half, so race pace for you will be about 9m 30 secs. - So make you shorter runs about 9mm and your LSR no slower than 9:45

Add 10% milegae per week (you mile every other week is fine) but think about total miles in a week, not individual runs.


egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Gargamel said:
You don't need to run 13 miles to be ready for a half.

Weekly mileage is the key to training, Aim for around 20 - 25 miles a week across three runs, and make you long slow run up to 10 miles.

With a sub 50m 10k you should be looking for about a 2 hour Half, so race pace for you will be about 9m 30 secs. - So make you shorter runs about 9mm and your LSR no slower than 9:45

Add 10% milegae per week (you mile every other week is fine) but think about total miles in a week, not individual runs.
Do you do any gym stuff inbetween runs?

Thinking of going on the rower and weight machines or maybe even the treadmill just to get another run in but without the impact of running on road.

My downfall before has always been just going out for a run and doing random mileages with no build up, this time i'm sticking to the routine ( and i'm about 3 stone over weight so it's not as easy as it used to be)

Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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When I trained properly for The marathon I swam the day after my long run, and did a body pump class once a week, just to build core and improve my posture.

Not sure I would see doing more Cardio as a totally good thing.

In the end on the times and distances you are talking, either would be fine. but personally I would not do any heavy cardio in between runs

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Can anyone help diagnose this problem I'm having with my left leg please?

After the first mile I get this sensation of a build up of pressure and the lower leg starts to stiffen and feel numb. Most of the time if I walk for a couple of minutes and run again it disapates and I can carry on for another 5 or 6 miles. Although tonight it was quite bad and I had to walk most of the route. When I get home and apply some pressure to the leg (just above the ankle) with my fingers it feels quite sore and tender. Whereas my right leg is perfectly fine.

I did have an operation on my backside about 18 months ago and the surgeon did say there was a risk of nerve damage but it doesn't feel like a nerve problem I don't think. It also doesn't feel like shin splints. I wonder if an ankle support would be helpful? As I've improved loads since October and I'm keen to keep running.




Gargamel

14,988 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Compartment syndrome ?

Sounds similar, but not quite the same.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Thanks. I've just looked that up on the NHS website and now I'm in a state of panic lol.

northandy

3,496 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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a good weeks running for me, just under 50km done, matched my parkrun pb on Saturday of 21:06 and then managed a half marathon distance this morning of 1:43:18 some 5 mins faster than my last attempt at that distance in September.

cwis

1,158 posts

179 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Still doing zone 2 training and ramping up the miles.

Pushed my long run out to half marathon over the weekend. Pulse average 160BPM (was aiming at 157 bit it's hilly round here!) so half zone 2, half zone 3.

Bit sore now but tendons are the least of my worries. Nice!

According to Strava I've climbed 1500m so far during January.

Anyone else noticed the updates to Garmin? It tracks stride length and various bits to do with how asymmetrical you are now too.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
markh1973 said:
Sounds good

If you've been running marginally over parkrun distance in 30 minutes aiming for a 27 minute parkrun is a big reduction.

What's the parkrun course like (surface, hills etc) compared to your normal running route.
Very similar
Perhaps I will just aim for a sub 30 for my first one!
Only managed 30mins for my first 5k, albeit the first half was uphill and I wasn't really pushing it, just going with the flow. There's definitely a 27/28 in me for next week. Hopefully a 25 by the end of Feb.

markh1973

1,804 posts

168 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
johnwilliams77 said:
markh1973 said:
Sounds good

If you've been running marginally over parkrun distance in 30 minutes aiming for a 27 minute parkrun is a big reduction.

What's the parkrun course like (surface, hills etc) compared to your normal running route.
Very similar
Perhaps I will just aim for a sub 30 for my first one!
Only managed 30mins for my first 5k, albeit the first half was uphill and I wasn't really pushing it, just going with the flow. There's definitely a 27/28 in me for next week. Hopefully a 25 by the end of Feb.
Nice one well done - now that you know what the course is like you can pace it easier next time knowing where you can make time up.

My little lad did his 49th last weekend so this weekend it's back to our home course for his 50th.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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markh1973 said:
Nice one well done - now that you know what the course is like you can pace it easier next time knowing where you can make time up.

My little lad did his 49th last weekend so this weekend it's back to our home course for his 50th.
Thanks. The last 3km I averaged 5min per km which I am happy with for someone 87kg....the first two were obviously significantly slower (6min 30-40 average)

The jiffle king

6,914 posts

258 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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Landed in London this morning, so went out in Hyde park for an easy jog which was great to be out and it was quite warm out there. Lots of people around and it was good to get in a few miles before my conferences this week
Mild weather!!

markh1973

1,804 posts

168 months

Monday 25th January 2016
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The jiffle king said:
Landed in London this morning, so went out in Hyde park for an easy jog which was great to be out and it was quite warm out there. Lots of people around and it was good to get in a few miles before my conferences this week
Mild weather!!
Barely been cold all winter. Talking to one of our club members earlier who did a 10 mile race in Canterbury yesterday- said it was too hot in shorts and t-shirt