The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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Flibble

6,475 posts

182 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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Did a 10k over the weekend (though my watch made it more like 9.3). Beat my time on the same course by 1m15, so happy with that. Need something to train for now!
Considering doing a night trail race over the winter, anyone done one? Would you recommend?

VEA

4,785 posts

202 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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egor110 said:
Off roads miles better, no traffic and less impact but you do have to allow time for your ankles to strengthen.

Check out hal higdons half marathon training plans, if you target a summer half you could take twice as long to train and increase the mileage far more gradually.
My normal 5k route has a bit of both in it. Doing that a min of 3 times a week often upping the weekend run to more like 7/8/10 depending on how much energy I have at the time.

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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VEA said:
Afternoon all,

I'm relatively new to running after turning my nose up at it my entire life.

First run was Jan last year. Started slowly and built up. Not following any training plan of any sort really, just wanted something to keep/get me fit that didn't take as much time as getting a good cycle in.

Ran the Henley 10km at the beginning of Oct in a couple of seconds under an hour. Was very happy with that.

I'm thinking about working my way up to a half marathon this time next year (nothing more than curiosity to be honest). I do have some feet/calf/shin problems so have to be a bit careful but have found I am really enjoying the off road stuff more and more.

Anyway, that's my ramblings over really.

Happy Monday!
Welcome!

Almost any beginner half marathon training plan will get you across the finish line safely without over-stretching you, so long as you follow them pretty closely for your ability level. They'll all vary in plan timescale, but typically 8 to 12 weeks is the norm with slowly increasing run lengths, with perhaps around 3 runs a week.

If you're planning to tackle a half marathon around mid/late autumn, that'll mean you'll formally begin training around mid/late summer. Until then, I would carry on training for the odd 10k race here and there to keep the running up. You'd be surprised what a few weeks of consistent training can do for your fitness. Oh, and sign up for parkrun in the meantime!

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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On the subject of first timer half-marathons, is running a half marathon a few weeks before the half marathon a good/acceptable idea?

I'm running the Bath Half in March, two weeks prior there is local half marathon. The training schedules I've looked at get up to (or very close to) 13 miles two weeks prior to the race before tailing off. In my head it seems like a good idea to enter the one prior for training purposes (and not worry about my time or anything, just to cover the miles), as it gives me a definite distance and will give me the motivation to do it surrounded by others.

Smitters

4,003 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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If you treat the first half as a training run, it's fine. If you get giddy and go off at race pace, you'll still have it in your legs two weeks later I would think. Having crowd support on a training run is cool though. I did it at the Cardiff Half last year.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Run in the dark is tomorrow night

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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I run in the dark often wink

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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ukaskew said:
On the subject of first timer half-marathons, is running a half marathon a few weeks before the half marathon a good/acceptable idea?

I'm running the Bath Half in March, two weeks prior there is local half marathon. The training schedules I've looked at get up to (or very close to) 13 miles two weeks prior to the race before tailing off. In my head it seems like a good idea to enter the one prior for training purposes (and not worry about my time or anything, just to cover the miles), as it gives me a definite distance and will give me the motivation to do it surrounded by others.
Agree with Smitters. As long as you're controlled and approach it at no faster than training pace, with perhaps a faster final mile or two, it'll be a great precursor to the main event 2 weeks later.

It'll also allow you to practice nutrition and trial your race clothing in a no-pressure environment.

smn159

12,679 posts

218 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Well after my first half marathon distance last Sunday my legs didn't feel up to running again until Friday! Managed 10k yesterday and a 5k parkrun today and will go for a longer run tomorrow, weather permitting.

Also entered the Mapledurham offload 10 miler on 4th December

egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Went with the mrs to her park run this morning and got 22.52 , 30 seconds off my pb.

I still don't enjoy park runs ( although it was a laugh blasting thru the puddles all the way around today) far to short and i have to run far to fast .

Tomorrow i'll be back up on the hills for 10 miles at a much more sensible pace.

Gaz413823

55 posts

124 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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I'm planning on running up rosedale chimney bank to Hutton le hole and back tomorrow. I'm not familiar with the area, I've looked at footage on YouTube etc. the road looks pretty narrow. Any views on which side of the road I should run on. I'm worried if I run on the left with my back to traffic I won't be able to react to any cars that don't see me but if I run on the right I worry about rounding a bend into an oncoming car. Does anyone know the road? On YouTube it's hard to make out if I could run on the grass verge ( maybe in trail shoes) or not.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Gaz413823 said:
I'm planning on running up rosedale chimney bank to Hutton le hole and back tomorrow. I'm not familiar with the area, I've looked at footage on YouTube etc. the road looks pretty narrow. Any views on which side of the road I should run on. I'm worried if I run on the left with my back to traffic I won't be able to react to any cars that don't see me but if I run on the right I worry about rounding a bend into an oncoming car. Does anyone know the road? On YouTube it's hard to make out if I could run on the grass verge ( maybe in trail shoes) or not.
I don't know the area but standard rule for me is to always run into oncoming traffic. If someone somehow hasn't seen me at least I've got a couple of seconds to react rather than being blithely unaware.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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First 20 mile run in 5 1/2 years today and it was great to get round. We ran an out and back route and coming back, a large tree had fallen across the path so we helped to move it. Legs are battered now though

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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tenohfive said:
Gaz413823 said:
I'm planning on running up rosedale chimney bank to Hutton le hole and back tomorrow. I'm not familiar with the area, I've looked at footage on YouTube etc. the road looks pretty narrow. Any views on which side of the road I should run on. I'm worried if I run on the left with my back to traffic I won't be able to react to any cars that don't see me but if I run on the right I worry about rounding a bend into an oncoming car. Does anyone know the road? On YouTube it's hard to make out if I could run on the grass verge ( maybe in trail shoes) or not.
I don't know the area but standard rule for me is to always run into oncoming traffic. If someone somehow hasn't seen me at least I've got a couple of seconds to react rather than being blithely unaware.
I'll normally prefer the right but I will cross over to the left if being on the right would put me on the inside of a blind bend.

Be careful on verges-I've been caught out beforehand as they're often very rough underfoot and obscured by the grass-it's very easy to twist an ankle or something.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

222 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Bath Skyline 10K today, was actually laughing at times as it was so much fun, particularly after 12 hours of heavy rain and winds. Course was pretty brutal, walked a lot of steep sloppy trails.

One a month until Feb, I was aiming for 1:10 by the 4th (my road 10k is 55mins) but I came in at 1:09:33 today.

Getting that muddy and that wet shouldn't be that much fun!

RizzoTheRat

25,174 posts

193 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Local cross country today, bloody hell that was hard work. 4 laps with 1 unpleasant and 1 downright nasty hill each lap, and several patches of ankle deep mud. Managed to forget my watch too so had no idea how I was doing until the end. Currently thawing out in front of the fire.

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Sunday 20th November 2016
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Gosport half today. 1:29:10 so 30ish off the PB and the third year of a sub 90. Two 6ish mile out and back laps along a seafront so 20-30ish mph headwinds for half of each lap then pull the time back on the return leg.

Rather than be pleased about the PB am annoyed by the 10s off a sub 1:29 but that's how my head works... On a calm day it would be a great PB course rather than one you really have to work for. Goodie bag full of food at the end as well.

Need to do more than one half a year though so I don't put all my sub 90 eggs in one basket smile

Edited by KTF on Monday 21st November 10:32

Smitters

4,003 posts

158 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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15km pushing my boy in his buggy. The farthest I've run in a while full stop, never mind shoving a buggy through wet leaves and mud. Legs were sore and tired but this morning my back was in bits! Only annoying thing was I was trying to keep my HR low, but was having to work quite hard at the end just to keep a half decent pace and it was climbing away. Shows I don't have much real distance in the legs yet - winter target methinks.

SpydieNut

5,801 posts

224 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
Local cross country today, bloody hell that was hard work. 4 laps with 1 unpleasant and 1 downright nasty hill each lap, and several patches of ankle deep mud. Managed to forget my watch too so had no idea how I was doing until the end. Currently thawing out in front of the fire.
yesterday was fairly brutal - i had my weekly LSR and really didn't enjoy it. the plan was for 18 miles, but in the end only did 16.2.

it was 1-2*C and there was a constant headwind on the way out (maybe 20mph, but coming off the snow-covered hills), so the point i normally reach in 45 min took about an hour. on top of that, at 30 min into the 2.5 hr run, i had to run through ankle deep 15-20m puddles and so got wet soaked feet and lower legs. normally doesn't bother me, but despite the tights, the wind made the lower legs feel very cold. i had on my gore running top (so wind and waterproof), a mid/heavy weight merino wool long sleeved base layer, my sealskinz beanies and gloves, so i didn't feel cold, but it was just a hard run. i had water and energy bars in my bag and had them at about an hour, plus i'd eaten a peanut butter and honey sandwich before i set out.

feet were sore, calf and hamstring felt tight - bah frown

not sure if i'm just not pushing the training a bit hard though. joined a club 3 months ago, so tue and thurs get out after work and do either hill reps, or some other efforts, but work ++. then parkruns or cross country 10km races on sat (not this week) and a longer slower run on wed as well as sundays.

well, a rest day today and i'll see how tomorrow night goes

this sat is a 10 mile cross country race and next sat a 10km one (that's renowed for being muddy and hilly smile )

RizzoTheRat

25,174 posts

193 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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SpydieNut said:
it was 1-2*C and there was a constant headwind on the way out (maybe 20mph, but coming off the snow-covered hills), so the point i normally reach in 45 min took about an hour. on top of that, at 30 min into the 2.5 hr run, i had to run through ankle deep 15-20m puddles and so got wet soaked feet and lower legs.
Luckily we were entirely in woodland, so no wind and it was about 5-6 degrees. I was quite comfortable in shorts and t-shirt but some of the marshals looked frozen.