The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

116 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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How do i solve calf strain?

Crippling pain, however was doing 10mm yesterday, and yes it did hurt was running. Wondering whether i should rest/stretch or just run in the hope that it will get better.

Physio booked for Tue am, but need to get some miles done.

egor110

16,869 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th December 2016
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AndStilliRise said:
How do i solve calf strain?

Crippling pain, however was doing 10mm yesterday, and yes it did hurt was running. Wondering whether i should rest/stretch or just run in the hope that it will get better.

Physio booked for Tue am, but need to get some miles done.
The answer is lots of rest , drink loads of water too.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Well that was my slowest ever 10k at just under 1:45. In fact co slow that Strava reckons I was stationary for 13 minutes of it!

In my defence the course was designed by a sadist with over 500m of ascent and quite a lot of descents that were too steep to actually run down.
https://www.strava.com/activities/817731983/overvi...

egor110

16,869 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
Well that was my slowest ever 10k at just under 1:45. In fact co slow that Strava reckons I was stationary for 13 minutes of it!

In my defence the course was designed by a sadist with over 500m of ascent and quite a lot of descents that were too steep to actually run down.
https://www.strava.com/activities/817731983/overvi...
Obviously the fancy dress was to blame wink

what did you go as ?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
Well that was my slowest ever 10k at just under 1:45. In fact co slow that Strava reckons I was stationary for 13 minutes of it!

In my defence the course was designed by a sadist with over 500m of ascent and quite a lot of descents that were too steep to actually run down.
https://www.strava.com/activities/817731983/overvi...
Well done, what were you dressed as?

I sneaked in under an hour. My favourite race of the year.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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A chef, bit boring compared to the wife's Penguin biggrin

Bloody hard work (especially the last set of steps) but good for a laugh, what did you go as?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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I never dress up, just went in my club gear, my club mates were in the blue club gear and blue capes. I think this was my 7th Knacker Cracker.

markh1973

1,810 posts

168 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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UpTheIron said:
ust signed up for this. Need to get the miles back up between now and then, and possibly give the Chiltern 214 a bash in August. Have you done RTTS before?
Did it over two days (6:36 the first day and 5:56 the second) last year and loved it. Brilliantly organised, cracking route - about 1200m climb over the 100k.

Plenty of people to chat to. This time round I'm going for it in one go and looking forward to it.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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The blue superhero's must have been the largest group, seemed to be loads about, what club's that? Like the idea of groups in matching costumes, I was with the Starwars mob most of the way, and loved the group of priests chanting at the start but they were so quick I never saw them again.
Del Boy was having a few issues with viasbility over his Reliant on the steps and stepping stones biggrin

egor110

16,869 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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I did the weston 10k in dec in full reindeer outfit that was a bit warm and pretty much the rest of the club went as a superwoman which was a bit random.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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A lot of those fancy dress outfits look way too warm. Not too bad today when it was cool but it always amazes me the nutters you see running London Marathon in Rhino suits, or even worse the 2 man camel suits for Water Aid.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st January 2017
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Has anyone done the 24hr events where you lap a 5 or 10k course and just aim to go as far as possible during the time, as an individual? Long term I'm really interested in some of the ultra events but I thought this would be a relatively gentle introduction (in so much as I can cover what I'm comfortable with and I'm never more than a few miles from base camp).

I wondered what sort of training was required and the best way to approach such a thing, e.g. slow and steady for hours on end with food/comfort breaks etc, hour on - hour off, walk a lap run a lap etc. I would like to think 75k would be achievable.

markh1973

1,810 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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ukaskew said:
Has anyone done the 24hr events where you lap a 5 or 10k course and just aim to go as far as possible during the time, as an individual? Long term I'm really interested in some of the ultra events but I thought this would be a relatively gentle introduction (in so much as I can cover what I'm comfortable with and I'm never more than a few miles from base camp).

I wondered what sort of training was required and the best way to approach such a thing, e.g. slow and steady for hours on end with food/comfort breaks etc, hour on - hour off, walk a lap run a lap etc. I would like to think 75k would be achievable.
Not done a lapped run like that but have done a couple of marathons in laps. The problem for me with those is simply boredom - same scenery, same hills (so if there is a bit you hate you have to keep doing it) so it becomes a mental issue not physical.

Ultra training is all about time on your feet - running when you would normally not and running slower than you would normally. Multiple runs in one day work too - so yesterday I did two parkruns with my 7 year old - slow and steady for the first one (32 mins), faster for the second (24 mins) and then a 12 mile wet muddy run with club mates in the afternoon. Really I should have got up this morning for a steady 5km but that hasn't happened.

If you want a good introduction to an ultra have a look at LDWA Challenge events. I'm doing a 30 miler in two weeks. You have to follow a set of directions but that also helps to keep your speed in check.

egor110

16,869 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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March 12th i'm doing the grizzly then 2nd april I'm doing ex to axe another 22 ish mile off road coastal run , what mileage should i be doing in the gap between them?


RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Local cross country league delivered plenty of mud again




egor110

16,869 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd January 2017
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Blue socks came out pretty well though.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Yeah, considering how many places were more than ankle deep I was surprised, I think it must have been just about the right consistency that it splashed and didn't ooze back until after I'd lifted my foot biggrin

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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ukaskew said:
Has anyone done the 24hr events where you lap a 5 or 10k course and just aim to go as far as possible during the time, as an individual? Long term I'm really interested in some of the ultra events but I thought this would be a relatively gentle introduction (in so much as I can cover what I'm comfortable with and I'm never more than a few miles from base camp).

I wondered what sort of training was required and the best way to approach such a thing, e.g. slow and steady for hours on end with food/comfort breaks etc, hour on - hour off, walk a lap run a lap etc. I would like to think 75k would be achievable.
Not done, but doing in 2017. General consensus is it's even more a mental than physical challenge than a typical ultra because you have to repeatedly leave comfort for pain. Perversely why I'm doing it. Downsides are samey scenery, though I'm sure the differences between day one, evening, night, dawn and day two will be stark. Upside is the training can go as well or badly as it does and it doesn't affect your ability to toe the line. I've set a series of targets - minimum for success, main target, dream target, whicyh will depend on both training and raceday(s).

Time on feet seems to be the main thing, along with being comfortable running in the dark and on a full(ish) stomach. Lap length determins fuel strategy. Mine's 9km, so anything from 80-120 mins between refuelling, so I will be going light in the day and carrying snacks through the night to keep spirits up.

75km is very achievable - that's just over 3kph or 2 mph (three hour ten k pace!)... I'm tubby and lazy and have done 80km in 11 1/2 hours. Could I have done another 80km in another 12 1/2 hours? No, but I could have gone further, so I'm looking forward to the open ended nature of the challenge.

Which event are you considering?

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Oof, 'A' race for 2018 is now the GBUltra Scotland traverse along the Southern Upland Way trail, 214miles non-staged. I've done a fair few stage multi day races but this will be a first for me (my wife is also doing it), similar format to Spine and Northern Traverse races and a similar format to a few I'd like to do subsequently, so a good one to cut my teeth on. Also have unfinished business as dropped from a staged SUW race a few years ago. Anyone else done similar - looking for some advice on run/rest ratio etc.

ukaskew

10,642 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Smitters said:
Which event are you considering?
Interesting stuff thanks (and to Mark earlier), it's the Cotswold 24 hour relay race ( http://www.100milerun.com/cotswold-24-hour-race/), handy as it's reasonably close to me. I like the look of Runstock as well (although that's 'only' for 8 hours), that one has clear incentives (you 'medal up' as you go) and seems aimed at soloists more so, which might help a bit.

I'm very much a solo runner and wouldn't have any kind of support network (young family so I'd be going alone), so I'd be doing it to see how I cope mentally as much as physically. I'm very happy in my own company and have never felt the need to be in a club or friends with other runners, so I guess this would test my limits in that respect.

The results from last years Cotswold 24 are eye watering, a soloist managed 198km!