The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Yes, I looked at the race info and it is a two lap course again. They have a sub-90 pen available if you send them proof that you have run a sub-90 in the past two years.
From the reviews, people say that it is still very busy though with lots of traffic on the second lap due to the numbers.
From the reviews, people say that it is still very busy though with lots of traffic on the second lap due to the numbers.
Ran 13.1m in 1:35 yesterday's lunch around London. Was pleased as I had to climb the steps at Tower Bridge twice, avoid the people traffic and watch out at crossings. HR Avg 155. Hopefully should be back under 90m soon.
Was supposed to be on a easier week from the schedule, with a total of 58miles for the week. I looked at that and decided that it didn't make sense to drop the work rate now may as well have the push on and score some consistency.
Went out today did 5m/50m. The injury (heal strike) really does bite some days so trying to take it easy and wearing a double pair of socks seems to help.
I just want too run fast.
Was supposed to be on a easier week from the schedule, with a total of 58miles for the week. I looked at that and decided that it didn't make sense to drop the work rate now may as well have the push on and score some consistency.
Went out today did 5m/50m. The injury (heal strike) really does bite some days so trying to take it easy and wearing a double pair of socks seems to help.
I just want too run fast.
KTF said:
That looks promising. 1h45 to drive to then either the 0904 or 0911 train arriving in Bath 20 mins or so later. Big car park and £2 all day parking.
Can't remember the route the Bath train takes but I'd recommend getting on it as far back as possible (i.e. even if it's just Westbury instead of Trowbridge). Even with extra trains they've turned people away by Bradford on Avon before.Westbury is a good option, massive car park, well connected and a simple drive from Southampton.
Following on from my query about head torches, I ended up buying the Led Lenser SE05. Obviously I've got nothing to compare it against but I'm really pleased with it.
Went out at 6am on Sunday down some local tracks for around 6 miles (that I'd never been down before), no streetlights or any ambient light in the area, so properly dark. Lots of ice on the ground but the wide beam pointing pretty much straight down easily illuminated enough for me to maintain my usual pace without worrying. Occasionally I'd switch to the long beam to see what was ahead, that seemed to go on forever (120m, I think).
I'd read about motion sickness when running with a head torch and as pretty much everything triggers motion sickness for me I was a bit nervous, but it was fine.
Happy chap, got two night trail races booked in for February now (Bath and Bristol).
Went out at 6am on Sunday down some local tracks for around 6 miles (that I'd never been down before), no streetlights or any ambient light in the area, so properly dark. Lots of ice on the ground but the wide beam pointing pretty much straight down easily illuminated enough for me to maintain my usual pace without worrying. Occasionally I'd switch to the long beam to see what was ahead, that seemed to go on forever (120m, I think).
I'd read about motion sickness when running with a head torch and as pretty much everything triggers motion sickness for me I was a bit nervous, but it was fine.
Happy chap, got two night trail races booked in for February now (Bath and Bristol).
ukaskew said:
Following on from my query about head torches, I ended up buying the Led Lenser SE05. Obviously I've got nothing to compare it against but I'm really pleased with it.
Went out at 6am on Sunday down some local tracks for around 6 miles (that I'd never been down before), no streetlights or any ambient light in the area, so properly dark. Lots of ice on the ground but the wide beam pointing pretty much straight down easily illuminated enough for me to maintain my usual pace without worrying. Occasionally I'd switch to the long beam to see what was ahead, that seemed to go on forever (120m, I think).
I'd read about motion sickness when running with a head torch and as pretty much everything triggers motion sickness for me I was a bit nervous, but it was fine.
Happy chap, got two night trail races booked in for February now (Bath and Bristol).
Nice - pleased it's working for you. One thing I noticed on Monday night was that if I put my H7.2 on full beam, over the course of 30 minutes it dims slightly, but I can turn it back up, so it's not battery run down. Maybe it's the adjuster moving slightly when running, but something to look out for on a longer night run. Went out at 6am on Sunday down some local tracks for around 6 miles (that I'd never been down before), no streetlights or any ambient light in the area, so properly dark. Lots of ice on the ground but the wide beam pointing pretty much straight down easily illuminated enough for me to maintain my usual pace without worrying. Occasionally I'd switch to the long beam to see what was ahead, that seemed to go on forever (120m, I think).
I'd read about motion sickness when running with a head torch and as pretty much everything triggers motion sickness for me I was a bit nervous, but it was fine.
Happy chap, got two night trail races booked in for February now (Bath and Bristol).
Night running is the way forward I reckon. You get the trails to yourself and everything looks new and different, even if you've run them in the daytime hundreds of times.
ukaskew said:
Can't remember the route the Bath train takes but I'd recommend getting on it as far back as possible (i.e. even if it's just Westbury instead of Trowbridge). Even with extra trains they've turned people away by Bradford on Avon before.
Westbury is a good option, massive car park, well connected and a simple drive from Southampton.
I get the impression that the event is going to be busy Westbury is a good option, massive car park, well connected and a simple drive from Southampton.
In one of the reviews someone described it as a 'mini-London' and, having run London, I can see what they are getting at.Westbury is 1h30 away according to Google maps so that saves 15 mins on the journey time.
Edited by KTF on Thursday 26th January 10:11
Smitters said:
Night running is the way forward I reckon. You get the trails to yourself and everything looks new and different, even if you've run them in the daytime hundreds of times.
I loved it, will be a bit sad when the summer arrives because darkness/cold is perfect for me (I overheat very easily, had a heart issue a few years back and just get silly hot in no time). I've also now run quite a few miles on the Kennet & Avon towpath at silly o clock am and not seen a single person, which is nice considering it's usually a case of dodging bikes, dogs and walkers.I found the additional concentration required also made the miles pass very quickly and without the usual psychological turmoil that long runs often bring!
KTF said:
I get the impression that the event is going to be busy In one of the reviews someone described it as a 'mini-London' and, having run London, I can see what they are getting at.
Thinking about it some more train from Westbury is probably the best option for a relatively stress free day. Not really any benefit to driving in further to get the train. In one of the reviews someone described it as a 'mini-London' and, having run London, I can see what they are getting at.I'm only planning on doing it this once for the experience, the long list of smaller events in the area are far more appealing to me generally. Biggest race I've done so far was around 400 and that felt too big, most have been 100-200 and really friendly.
Edited by ukaskew on Thursday 26th January 12:56
All the events I have done have been club organised events - local road race league, etc - rather than massive organised events like the Great South, Reading Half, etc.
For me, I don't see the benefit of paying £40ish to run a half when I can pay for a club race at a fraction of the cost. I realise the support on the way round may be different but at the quicker end of the pack that makes little difference.
I get more 'enjoyment' out of a parkrun these days as its friendly and every week you can get a good blast in.
For me, I don't see the benefit of paying £40ish to run a half when I can pay for a club race at a fraction of the cost. I realise the support on the way round may be different but at the quicker end of the pack that makes little difference.
I get more 'enjoyment' out of a parkrun these days as its friendly and every week you can get a good blast in.
Smitters said:
over the course of 30 minutes it dims slightly, but I can turn it back up, so it's not battery run down. Maybe it's the adjuster moving slightly when running, but something to look out for on a longer night run.
Night running is the way forward I reckon. You get the trails to yourself and everything looks new and different, even if you've run them in the daytime hundreds of times.
It'll be the step down you're talking about. Think of the modes as High->Medium->Low with an extra boost into turbo. It's not uncommon - for most of the lights I've used it's to prevent overheating (with most of them having metal heatsinking rather than a plastic case), but at the lower end of the output spectrum at 250 lumens I suspect it's just to preserve battery life.Night running is the way forward I reckon. You get the trails to yourself and everything looks new and different, even if you've run them in the daytime hundreds of times.
I'm not sure I agree with your quote about everything looking different though - I find everything looks the same. Yes, different to daytime - but I've less problem with doing an out and back route rather than a circular one as it's all a bit samey. Convenient sometimes though. And a nighttime run in a gale through the local hills can take an everyday run and make it feel pretty epic.
Give me just the trails during the sunrise though and I'm happy a happy bunny.
KTF said:
OK, I am in for Bath. I have a 1:29:10 to beat which was achieved in November on a 2 lap course with 3 miles of strong headwind each lap.
Thanks for the help with the logistics.
If you want to get a pb check out bideford half in march , it's pretty much flat along the tarka trail.Thanks for the help with the logistics.
AndStilliRise said:
I want to get fast....what am i doing wrong!
Are you doing shorter distances at a faster speed? eg instead of doing 13 miles and trying to do it faster, do 10x1 mile or 6 x 2 at target speed. And...don't try doing this round central London, find a park or somewhere you can do it without roads or people getting in the way.
Ran in the midland cross country championships today.
I'm not sure of my position yet but I don't think I've done a much tougher race! It was supposed to be a 12km race but someone had obviously made a fair mis-calculation because it ended up being more like 15k!
The conditions were muddy and sticky, with a mid-race hailstorm to add to the toughness!
Overall I felt I dealt with it pretty well and had a good race with the people around me. I'm shattered now though!
I'm not sure of my position yet but I don't think I've done a much tougher race! It was supposed to be a 12km race but someone had obviously made a fair mis-calculation because it ended up being more like 15k!
The conditions were muddy and sticky, with a mid-race hailstorm to add to the toughness!
Overall I felt I dealt with it pretty well and had a good race with the people around me. I'm shattered now though!
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