The Running Thread Vol 2
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7m done today, following the 16m yesterday. Feeling sick of it so must be getting to end of my tolerance for running, which is usually a good thing, shows I am pushing.
At least the endurance is there now, just got to work on the speed. Thinking about doing 1m * 10. Instead of 10miles as one of the previous posters suggested.
At least the endurance is there now, just got to work on the speed. Thinking about doing 1m * 10. Instead of 10miles as one of the previous posters suggested.
10k Mud Bath (in Bath) today, I've done some muddy trails but wow, that was an experience! Lap one ok, lap two literally couldn't stay on my feet for some sections. 1:36 when my reasonable trail 10k time is 55-59 minutes. I'd say the majority of the field had little choice but to walk at least 3-4k.
Went down about 6 times, once a full on off the ground legs up in the air moment, great fun.
Longleat 10k next Sunday (quite hilly), Castle Combe Circuit 10k the week after then a double Bath Skyline 10k weekend (6pm Saturday and 11am Sunday).
Went down about 6 times, once a full on off the ground legs up in the air moment, great fun.
Longleat 10k next Sunday (quite hilly), Castle Combe Circuit 10k the week after then a double Bath Skyline 10k weekend (6pm Saturday and 11am Sunday).
Any thoughts on the best thing to do when a half marathon training is severely disrupted? A family illness has cancelled out any hope of mid-week training for the foreseeable future, so I'm down to having - at best - maybe 2 hours very early on both a Saturday and Sunday morning from now on and nothing else, probably through until race day.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
ukaskew said:
Any thoughts on the best thing to do when a half marathon training is severely disrupted? A family illness has cancelled out any hope of mid-week training for the foreseeable future, so I'm down to having - at best - maybe 2 hours very early on both a Saturday and Sunday morning from now on and nothing else, probably through until race day.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
Sorry to hear this. At the end of the day, races come and go and family is family, so you're already making a solid decision. You've obviously got the headtorch, which could open up a Friday night perhaps, but if Sat and Sun are the only options, I would do the long run and a very easy run up to five miles on the other day. Far from ideal, but you can certainly maintain fitness.The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
A mate also swears by bodyweight exercises - he does squats and lunges whilst watching telly for conditioning. As he's a sub 35 min 10k-er and did 9 1/2 hours for 50 hilly miles, I reckon he's got an idea! I'd say be a bit inventive with what you can do, instead of worrying about what you can't.
I believe there was something along the lines that its not a good idea like this:
https://houseofrunning.com/the-dangers-of-mixing-m...
https://houseofrunning.com/the-dangers-of-mixing-m...
ukaskew said:
Any thoughts on the best thing to do when a half marathon training is severely disrupted? A family illness has cancelled out any hope of mid-week training for the foreseeable future, so I'm down to having - at best - maybe 2 hours very early on both a Saturday and Sunday morning from now on and nothing else, probably through until race day.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
Given your current distances I am quite sure you would't go backwards if you can get good quality sessions in those 2hrs plus some home exercises if that's all you can manage (lots of 5min workouts available online) - core, legs indoors will all help.The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
My Mrs joined a January Run Climbing Challenge on Strava, and was somewhat surprised when looking at the leaderboard to find the top guy had done 50km of ascent in the month, and loads of people in 20+ km range. She did wonder if some of them were cheating. Quite a few of them have their accounts locked so you can't see their activities, but it appears the ones you can see are nutters :hehe
1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
Smitters said:
A mate also swears by bodyweight exercises - he does squats and lunges whilst watching telly for conditioning. As he's a sub 35 min 10k-er and did 9 1/2 hours for 50 hilly miles, I reckon he's got an idea! I'd say be a bit inventive with what you can do, instead of worrying about what you can't.
I did wonder about this, I'll have plenty of time at home when the kid is asleep etc and a nice big space in the living room, so will look into things I could do that might help.ukaskew said:
Any thoughts on the best thing to do when a half marathon training is severely disrupted? A family illness has cancelled out any hope of mid-week training for the foreseeable future, so I'm down to having - at best - maybe 2 hours very early on both a Saturday and Sunday morning from now on and nothing else, probably through until race day.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
How are you, injury resilience-wise?The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
With training limited to Saturdays and Sundays, I would consider something like long-ish reps/fartlek on Saturday morning, and then distance at an easy pace on Sunday. You then have 5 days of recovery until your next run.
Cybertronian said:
How are you, injury resilience-wise?
With training limited to Saturdays and Sundays, I would consider something like long-ish reps/fartlek on Saturday morning, and then distance at an easy pace on Sunday. You then have 5 days of recovery until your next run.
Touch wood, no injuries whatsoever. I haven't done any reps whatsoever, though. I started from scratch last year having not run for 16 years. This is been an average week since November...With training limited to Saturdays and Sundays, I would consider something like long-ish reps/fartlek on Saturday morning, and then distance at an easy pace on Sunday. You then have 5 days of recovery until your next run.
Saturday: parkrun (as quick as I can manage, down to 25 from 34 minutes)
Sunday: long runs on my own or very hilly trail races (10k to 13 miles)
Tuesday: easy 3 miles
Thursday: 3 miles up a long hill
RizzoTheRat said:
My Mrs joined a January Run Climbing Challenge on Strava, and was somewhat surprised when looking at the leaderboard to find the top guy had done 50km of ascent in the month, and loads of people in 20+ km range. She did wonder if some of them were cheating. Quite a few of them have their accounts locked so you can't see their activities, but it appears the ones you can see are nutters :hehe
1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
50,000m in a month is a very big effort I'd say; it's possible but (for me) you'd need to be out for 4-5 hours a day every day for the month. Phew.1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
Just got my place on the Devil (of the Highlands) ultra later this year which I'm really looking forward to. I also stuck in for the Tors des Geants ballot but hopefully won't get a place as it'll completely change my year.
Interesting comment re: lunges & squats - I'm stuck in compounds a lot of the time and have a love/hate relationship with the stepper - hate doing it, love getting off it, so that thought has prompted an idea to switch things around a bit - cheers.
Cybertronian said:
ukaskew said:
Any thoughts on the best thing to do when a half marathon training is severely disrupted? A family illness has cancelled out any hope of mid-week training for the foreseeable future, so I'm down to having - at best - maybe 2 hours very early on both a Saturday and Sunday morning from now on and nothing else, probably through until race day.
The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
How are you, injury resilience-wise?The half is on March 12th, I was up to 10 miles quite comfortably with my long runs but have gone further (did a 13 mile hilly trail race in December in 2:15, walking the big hills), so as it stands I'd be fairly confident in running the whole thing if I ran it tomorrow.
My original hope was 2 hours, but I now ideally just want to at least maintain what I have (which would probably give me a 2:05-2:10 finish all being well) and not go backwards.
With training limited to Saturdays and Sundays, I would consider something like long-ish reps/fartlek on Saturday morning, and then distance at an easy pace on Sunday. You then have 5 days of recovery until your next run.
Saturday am 2 mile warm up 8x400 with 2 min jog recovery and 2 mile warm down
Sunday - Long run at easy pace
Midweek - Stretch every day... at work, when caring for the family member
Saturday - 2 x 6 x 400 with 2 mile warm up/cool down
Sunday Long run
Midweek Stretch every day... at work, when caring for the family member
Saturday - 8x800 with 1.5 mile warm up and cool down
Sunday shorter long run than prior weeks
Stretch every day... at work, when caring for the family member
Saturday 2 x 10 x 400 with 1 mile warm up and cool down
Sunday - Longer run
Then taper weeks but still do a little speedwork on the saturdays and shorten the long run
It's not ideal but the key is the stretching a lot and I love the idea above of trying to do bodyweight exercises during the week. All the best with your family situation
andy_s said:
RizzoTheRat said:
My Mrs joined a January Run Climbing Challenge on Strava, and was somewhat surprised when looking at the leaderboard to find the top guy had done 50km of ascent in the month, and loads of people in 20+ km range. She did wonder if some of them were cheating. Quite a few of them have their accounts locked so you can't see their activities, but it appears the ones you can see are nutters :hehe
1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
50,000m in a month is a very big effort I'd say; it's possible but (for me) you'd need to be out for 4-5 hours a day every day for the month. Phew.1400m of ascent on a 21km run!
https://www.strava.com/activities/849338616
The jiffle king said:
I follow a couple of nutters on strava who run 50km a day every day for a month or one who did 200 miles a week in December. It's great that people tax the body to this extent, but I think there may be an OCD element but its healthier than drinking yourself into oblivion or taking drugs
I think I'd live longer drinking 20 pints a day than I would if I tried running 50km every day 
KTF said:
I believe there was something along the lines that its not a good idea like this:
https://houseofrunning.com/the-dangers-of-mixing-m...
Oooof! Right! Ta!https://houseofrunning.com/the-dangers-of-mixing-m...
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