The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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egor110

16,876 posts

204 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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ukaskew said:
Ran the Maverick Hampshire 15k on Saturday in the New Forest, wow what a beautiful course. Beforehand I watched a video and saw some pictures that looked very 'lifestyle' with trail runners passing wild horses etc...it was exactly like that though.

Tempted by their Dorset and Snowdonia races now.
Check out pure trail and trail events on facebook you'd love there races.

Mostly based in devon on the coast path or dartmoor but they do venture into somerset and onto exmoor.

Also check out exmoor stagger , been going years very low key but essentially you start on the coast in minehead then climb up onto exmoor to dunkery beacon loop round it and back down , think it's around 16 miles.

If that's a bit to far to travel look up herepath half , it's not as hard core as the others but 90% off road thru woods/fields/muddy bogs and a cake buffet at the finish.

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Beyond Events on the Jurassic Coast are another off road/trail event organiser: http://www.beyondevents.org.uk/running_events.html

White Star Running are another (primarily in the Wiltshire/Dorset area): http://www.whitestarrunning.co.uk/

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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markh1973 said:
Depends what the niggles are: are they real injuries you are ignoring or just gentle aches.

If you look at this first time marathon runner plan you are well ahead of the position with 9 weeks to go. This doesn't reach 13 miles until week 10 (and you are on the equivalent of week 7).

http://london-marathon.s3.amazonaws.com/vmlm2014/l...

I haven't followed this plan so can't vouch for how good it is.

Ultimately only you can tell whether you think you can put in the miles to get there but you have time.
To be honest, a colleague is following a plan and he is happy to do longest run of 13miles for the next few weeks so I am probably not behind in terms if having fitness to complete.
I don't think I've got a real injury....a bit of a tight right heel which could very easily become worse as I increase miles. Didn't help I did my first 13miler after some time sick way faster than marathon pace (8min 10miles for me)...
I am just Aiming to get round the course wihthout being too crippled or doing too much walking for it.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
To be honest, a colleague is following a plan and he is happy to do longest run of 13miles for the next few weeks so I am probably not behind in terms if having fitness to complete.
I don't think I've got a real injury....a bit of a tight right heel which could very easily become worse as I increase miles. Didn't help I did my first 13miler after some time sick way faster than marathon pace (8min 10miles for me)...
I am just Aiming to get round the course wihthout being too crippled or doing too much walking for it.
There are some things you can do to help the heal issue but you need to treat it as part of your training and it will depend on the issue
1) Roll with a hard ball 3-5 times a day for 10-15 minutes at a time (I used to do this at work when on conference calls
2) Stretch every night whilst watching TV/ Focus on the calf, IT band, glutes and becoming more flexible
3) make your first mile you run easy (90 seconds per mile less than your stead pace and then stretch for 5 mins
4) get a sports massage to loosen your legs up

Of course, seeing a doctor is best, but the above may be able to help

MattS5

1,910 posts

192 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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The jiffle king said:
There are some things you can do to help the heal issue but you need to treat it as part of your training and it will depend on the issue
1) Roll with a hard ball 3-5 times a day for 10-15 minutes at a time (I used to do this at work when on conference calls
2) Stretch every night whilst watching TV/ Focus on the calf, IT band, glutes and becoming more flexible
3) make your first mile you run easy (90 seconds per mile less than your stead pace and then stretch for 5 mins
4) get a sports massage to loosen your legs up

Of course, seeing a doctor is best, but the above may be able to help
And stick these in both shoes for a few weeks till it improves. (In conjunction with all of the above)

http://www.newitts.com/sorbothane-shock-stopper-sp...

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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Thanks gents
I'll do my best to adopt!

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
Thanks gents
I'll do my best to adopt!
Good luck with it, and consistency of doing the stretches and ball rolling is what helped me. doing it 3x a week was not good enough, so hope you can find the time to do it regularly

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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The jiffle king said:
Good luck with it, and consistency of doing the stretches and ball rolling is what helped me. doing it 3x a week was not good enough, so hope you can find the time to do it regularly
I have the time I just don't know if I have enough discipline. I really really want to finish the marathon so I'll give it my best shot

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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My wife helps me with the discipline by making making me a tick sheet of all the stretches and rolls for the week and I have to tick them off (a bit like a child with a gold star sheet) I've found having 2 people making it happen works well for me and also means that I get it out of the way rather than doing it very last thing at night

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Tuesday 7th March 2017
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Anyone got a pair of Speedcross 4's? I'm on the point of pulling the trigger; my SC3's have got about 600km on them and have worn down too much for muddy hills on training runs. I'm after more of the same and am considering the SC4's for day-to-day training and possibly using them instead of my Mudclaw 300's on longer trail races.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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If you ever run to the grocery store with a backpack, I can recommend that you don't buy a punnet of strawberries as they tend to make a mess of your running backpack when you arrive home...

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th March 2017
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johnwilliams77 said:
I have the time I just don't know if I have enough discipline. I really really want to finish the marathon so I'll give it my best shot
Friendly reminder to do the stretching and rolling of the ball on your foot....

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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The jiffle king said:
Friendly reminder to do the stretching and rolling of the ball on your foot....
Thank you. I will be totally honest, I have been doing stretches and I have bought the heel support from link provided but not yet bought a hard ball for that component...life is getting in the way / my lack of organisation.

MattS5

1,910 posts

192 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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A frozen 500ml bottle of water works in the same way as a ball.


johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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MattS5 said:
A frozen 500ml bottle of water works in the same way as a ball.
That reminds me, I have that in the freezer, will get to work.

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Thursday 9th March 2017
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I think bath might be an issue. When I was doing intervals on Tuesday I felt a sharp pain in the lower part of my thigh and my full tilt run quickly turned into a limp frown

It's ok if sitting but if I lift my foot up to a horizontal position while sitting I get an ache about a hands width above the back of my knee on the 'band' that you can feel that joins the outside on your knee and runs up the thigh. My knee is ok but it aches above it at the back of my leg.

Walking is ok if stiff but getting up and sitting down is sore. Am thinking hamstring unless others have had something similar?

Terminator X

15,099 posts

205 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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AbzST64 said:
Terminator X said:
Any help with head torches for off road at night? Any that I get hold off just don't cast enough light and I'm constantly in danger of twisting my ankle or worse.

Cheers, TX.
Im a big trail runner and use the Lenser H7r.2! Can't fault it to be honest!
I bought one thanks and it's ideal, works great.

TX.

MattS5

1,910 posts

192 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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KTF said:
I think bath might be an issue. When I was doing intervals on Tuesday I felt a sharp pain in the lower part of my thigh and my full tilt run quickly turned into a limp frown

It's ok if sitting but if I lift my foot up to a horizontal position while sitting I get an ache about a hands width above the back of my knee on the 'band' that you can feel that joins the outside on your knee and runs up the thigh. My knee is ok but it aches above it at the back of my leg.

Walking is ok if stiff but getting up and sitting down is sore. Am thinking hamstring unless others have had something similar?
More likely IT band I'd have thought, or potentially glutes?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=glute+exercise&a...

Foam roller for the IT?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=it+band+exercise...

Or some of these with weight on the lifting leg(even a can of beans in a carrier bag will do if you haven't got ankle weights)
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=it+band+exercise...

KTF

9,807 posts

151 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Thanks. I will give those exercises a go as my flexibility isn't great anyway.

I went for a run yesterday and it was 'uncomfortable' on the way round but the pace was still there. Ached a bit afterwards then stiff for the rest of the day.

This morning it seems a lot better. Only a slight ache now and it seems a lot easier to move my leg about compared to yesterday. I did run in new shoes yesterday as I knew my existing ones were long past it so maybe that had an impact.

Hopefully it will ache less again tomorrow.

chonok

1,129 posts

236 months

Friday 10th March 2017
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Looking forward to the Wrexham Half on Sunday. Just hoping my IT band will hold out, as it has been causing me some issues lately.