The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Jordan210 said:
My calf is a bit tight at the moment. So going to rest it for a few days.
Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
difficult to say how long - i think mine was just a muscle cramp, rather than a sprain - it went on the downhill section after a steep uphill and just felt like it knotted up. by the bottom of the hill it had eased quite a bit and on the flat felt fine, but up the next hill felt tight, so i just jogged home. then gave it 2 wks off, while using nsaids and gentle, regular stretching. then a gentle jog felt ok, but 2 days later a slightly quicker jog and it cramped again. so i gave it 2 more weeks off, then saw a physio who did massage it etc and said it looked OK. so i got back to jogging, then gentle running then hills, about 10 days ago and so far so good.Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
i also need to be right in 3 weeks, as i'm doing the Two Oceans. i'd built up to 32 miles and was doing well. now a hilly 6-7 mile run is fine and i realise that with a 4 wk break, i may be a little under prepared, but the last thing i want to do now is push too fast, far or hard in the next few weeks and end up not being able to do it at all.
so i'd say see a physio and go with that. i don't think a gentle massage will do any harm, but could only help. good luck
egor110 said:
Well done , one of the guys from out club did it to.
His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
Third day was tough - I did 5:30, 5:45 and 6:15 for 43.9km, 43.9km and 45.6km so 27/28 miles a day.His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
markh1973 said:
egor110 said:
Well done , one of the guys from out club did it to.
His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
Third day was tough - I did 5:30, 5:45 and 6:15 for 43.9km, 43.9km and 45.6km so 27/28 miles a day.His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
SpydieNut said:
Jordan210 said:
My calf is a bit tight at the moment. So going to rest it for a few days.
Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
difficult to say how long - i think mine was just a muscle cramp, rather than a sprain - it went on the downhill section after a steep uphill and just felt like it knotted up. by the bottom of the hill it had eased quite a bit and on the flat felt fine, but up the next hill felt tight, so i just jogged home. then gave it 2 wks off, while using nsaids and gentle, regular stretching. then a gentle jog felt ok, but 2 days later a slightly quicker jog and it cramped again. so i gave it 2 more weeks off, then saw a physio who did massage it etc and said it looked OK. so i got back to jogging, then gentle running then hills, about 10 days ago and so far so good.Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
i also need to be right in 3 weeks, as i'm doing the Two Oceans. i'd built up to 32 miles and was doing well. now a hilly 6-7 mile run is fine and i realise that with a 4 wk break, i may be a little under prepared, but the last thing i want to do now is push too fast, far or hard in the next few weeks and end up not being able to do it at all.
so i'd say see a physio and go with that. i don't think a gentle massage will do any harm, but could only help. good luck
There comes a point when you just can't catch up with your training.
markh1973 said:
If anyone wants a challenge I've got one for you. Just recovering from the Jurassic Coast Challenge - 3 "marathons" in 3 days on the Dorset coast. Toughest thing I have ever attempted but at the same time one of the most beautiful.
Weather conditions were near perfect - sunshine and not too much wind (at least not most of he time). Great camaraderie with the other runners particularly on the last day and the 2 mile finish on the beach at Sandbanks.
Massive respect. Weather conditions were near perfect - sunshine and not too much wind (at least not most of he time). Great camaraderie with the other runners particularly on the last day and the 2 mile finish on the beach at Sandbanks.
Pretty sure I ran parts of that when down at Charmouth last summer for 2 weeks. Fabulous scenery, proper hard work hills mind!
The jiffle king said:
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Cybertronian said:
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!
Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Ouch, its $499 here without the Tri bundle in the US and having bought a 920XT, I won't get one, but it looks like a serious bit of kit and very light Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Do sprints help with running fast?
The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.
What am i doing wrong?
The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.
What am i doing wrong?
The jiffle king said:
Cybertronian said:
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!
Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Ouch, its $499 here without the Tri bundle in the US and having bought a 920XT, I won't get one, but it looks like a serious bit of kit and very light Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/03/garmin-forerun...
Want one. Although there is a lot of appeal to the Fenix 5X - the mapping looks genuinely useful, but the rational part of my head says, "you'll have a smartphone with OS mapping with you anyway 99% of the time."
Moot point at current prices though.
Separate point:
I've just discovered that my HRM (Wahoo Tickr X) has a whole load of running dynamics capability.
1. Is there a way to retain that data when using the Tickr X paired with my watch? Currently the Wahoo app recognises those runs but doesn't display any RD data.
2. Is there a good starting point to understanding how I can use things like knowing my vertical oscillation and ground contact time to either improve my running economy or reduce my injury risks?
I'm not above using the Tickr X purely for RD data collection (every so often) by pairing it to my phone before a run and using my watches optical HRM for the actual running stuff if I'm actually going to get something back from it for that extra faff.
I've just discovered that my HRM (Wahoo Tickr X) has a whole load of running dynamics capability.
1. Is there a way to retain that data when using the Tickr X paired with my watch? Currently the Wahoo app recognises those runs but doesn't display any RD data.
2. Is there a good starting point to understanding how I can use things like knowing my vertical oscillation and ground contact time to either improve my running economy or reduce my injury risks?
I'm not above using the Tickr X purely for RD data collection (every so often) by pairing it to my phone before a run and using my watches optical HRM for the actual running stuff if I'm actually going to get something back from it for that extra faff.
AndStilliRise said:
Do sprints help with running fast?
The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.
What am i doing wrong?
I joined a club in January and didn't feel I was getting much improvement. I had run a sub 20min parkrun last October but been nowhere since after my first marathon. However after regular sessions I feel a lot quicker now, I have knocked 20 seconds off my best parkrun last Saturday. I think in time you'll find improvement will come The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.
What am i doing wrong?
tenohfive said:
Coming up at £413 for me (platinum price.) Try logging in, if you've spent as much with them as I have over the years it'll probably be the same for you.
Still shows as £469 for me, even whilst logged in.I am with Vitality for life insurance, which nets me 40% off Garmins at full RRP. Will take a look at that angle once they start shipping from Garmin's site direct.
I also pondered over the mapping functionality of the Fenix 5X, but further reading indicates all the lower down models and the 935 have the direction arrow, which would be enough for me. I have a dreadful sense of direction, but love to explore new locations when I'm away travelling or with work - would save me having to print out or study a route in detail.
Cybertronian said:
I also pondered over the mapping functionality of the Fenix 5X, but further reading indicates all the lower down models and the 935 have the direction arrow, which would be enough for me. I have a dreadful sense of direction, but love to explore new locations when I'm away travelling or with work - would save me having to print out or study a route in detail.
I have the basic bread crumb arrow navigation thing on my tomtom and have been uploading gpx routes from trailrunningmag and good running websites. I've been doing great routes over canals; through farms; disused railway paths - places I never even knew existed. It's really moved me away from doing the same old monotonous road routes. For me it's been a fantastic feature. RaymondVanDerDon said:
I have the basic bread crumb arrow navigation thing on my tomtom and have been uploading gpx routes from trailrunningmag and good running websites. I've been doing great routes over canals; through farms; disused railway paths - places I never even knew existed. It's really moved me away from doing the same old monotonous road routes. For me it's been a fantastic feature.
Good to hear it actually works! Would've come in useful a few years ago when I was running in Peterborough. Only intended to head out for 6 miles, but due to a quick succession of turns along a complex section, I found myself horribly lost on the return. Was thankfully rescued by a local running club who were passing by and managed to deposit me back at my hotel for a total of 10 miles!Athens half in Georgia for me yesterday on a course with 650ft of elevation and where the first mile was 166ft downhill so not the easiest. Course leveled off after that first mile, but was undulating until 7 miles then hills until 10 and then leveled off until a tough hill at 12.5 and downhill to the finish. Managed a respectable 1:20:11 for 3rd overall (Standard of running in the US is not amazing at the front) and the prizes were a Cow bell, $50 voucher for a running store and 25 Chick fit a burger vouchers (yes seriously). The goodie bag also had in a couple of vouchers as well as the technical T shirt.
The race started at 7:15am to avoid the heat which by 10am was 25C and the race sponsored by Chick Fil A had people dressed as cows all around the course. Gave the food prizes to a couple of local homeless people and I think most of the winners did the same.
Georgia running is Hills, heat and humidity, but for once, the heat was left out
The race started at 7:15am to avoid the heat which by 10am was 25C and the race sponsored by Chick Fil A had people dressed as cows all around the course. Gave the food prizes to a couple of local homeless people and I think most of the winners did the same.
Georgia running is Hills, heat and humidity, but for once, the heat was left out
first couple of weeks of getting my legs used to turning over again. After not running for 3 months I'm starting all over again. Starting a mix of normal runs with speed and then a long run on the weekend. I've got about 3 months until my first half marathon and then another 2 after that for my first full marathon. Lucky its in Melbourne so nice and flat
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