The Running Thread Vol 2

The Running Thread Vol 2

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SpydieNut

5,801 posts

224 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Jordan210 said:
My calf is a bit tight at the moment. So going to rest it for a few days.

Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
difficult to say how long - i think mine was just a muscle cramp, rather than a sprain - it went on the downhill section after a steep uphill and just felt like it knotted up. by the bottom of the hill it had eased quite a bit and on the flat felt fine, but up the next hill felt tight, so i just jogged home. then gave it 2 wks off, while using nsaids and gentle, regular stretching. then a gentle jog felt ok, but 2 days later a slightly quicker jog and it cramped again. so i gave it 2 more weeks off, then saw a physio who did massage it etc and said it looked OK. so i got back to jogging, then gentle running then hills, about 10 days ago and so far so good.

i also need to be right in 3 weeks, as i'm doing the Two Oceans. i'd built up to 32 miles and was doing well. now a hilly 6-7 mile run is fine and i realise that with a 4 wk break, i may be a little under prepared, but the last thing i want to do now is push too fast, far or hard in the next few weeks and end up not being able to do it at all.

so i'd say see a physio and go with that. i don't think a gentle massage will do any harm, but could only help. good luck thumbup

markh1973

1,814 posts

169 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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egor110 said:
Well done , one of the guys from out club did it to.

His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
Third day was tough - I did 5:30, 5:45 and 6:15 for 43.9km, 43.9km and 45.6km so 27/28 miles a day.

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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markh1973 said:
egor110 said:
Well done , one of the guys from out club did it to.

His game plan was to run a 6 hour marathon each day and pace himself but he said day 3 was just a case of moving forwards whatever the speed.
Third day was tough - I did 5:30, 5:45 and 6:15 for 43.9km, 43.9km and 45.6km so 27/28 miles a day.
Any plans to do the cornish version in Sept/Oct?

egor110

16,878 posts

204 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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SpydieNut said:
Jordan210 said:
My calf is a bit tight at the moment. So going to rest it for a few days.

Is it worth getting a deep tissue massage as need to fit and strong in 4 weeks.
difficult to say how long - i think mine was just a muscle cramp, rather than a sprain - it went on the downhill section after a steep uphill and just felt like it knotted up. by the bottom of the hill it had eased quite a bit and on the flat felt fine, but up the next hill felt tight, so i just jogged home. then gave it 2 wks off, while using nsaids and gentle, regular stretching. then a gentle jog felt ok, but 2 days later a slightly quicker jog and it cramped again. so i gave it 2 more weeks off, then saw a physio who did massage it etc and said it looked OK. so i got back to jogging, then gentle running then hills, about 10 days ago and so far so good.

i also need to be right in 3 weeks, as i'm doing the Two Oceans. i'd built up to 32 miles and was doing well. now a hilly 6-7 mile run is fine and i realise that with a 4 wk break, i may be a little under prepared, but the last thing i want to do now is push too fast, far or hard in the next few weeks and end up not being able to do it at all.

so i'd say see a physio and go with that. i don't think a gentle massage will do any harm, but could only help. good luck thumbup
Better to be under prepared and fit than over trained and injured.

There comes a point when you just can't catch up with your training.

Jordan210

4,526 posts

184 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Thanks Guys for the help.

Going to rest it and do stretches on calf,leg and IT band . Will do some light foam rolling and use a massage stick on it.

Doesn't feel like a sprain just a bit tight. So hopefully stretches will help it.

Have ordered some calf sleeves to help when running.

MattS5

1,911 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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markh1973 said:
If anyone wants a challenge I've got one for you. Just recovering from the Jurassic Coast Challenge - 3 "marathons" in 3 days on the Dorset coast. Toughest thing I have ever attempted but at the same time one of the most beautiful.

Weather conditions were near perfect - sunshine and not too much wind (at least not most of he time). Great camaraderie with the other runners particularly on the last day and the 2 mile finish on the beach at Sandbanks.





Massive respect.
Pretty sure I ran parts of that when down at Charmouth last summer for 2 weeks. Fabulous scenery, proper hard work hills mind!

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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liking the look of the new Garmin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L9okyduzDw

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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The jiffle king said:
liking the look of the new Garmin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L9okyduzDw
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!

Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Cybertronian said:
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!

Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Ouch, its $499 here without the Tri bundle in the US and having bought a 920XT, I won't get one, but it looks like a serious bit of kit and very light

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

117 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Do sprints help with running fast?

The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.

What am i doing wrong?

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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The jiffle king said:
Cybertronian said:
The black version looks really slick - basically a Fenix 5 in a slimmer casing and with wifi as standard!

Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Ouch, its $499 here without the Tri bundle in the US and having bought a 920XT, I won't get one, but it looks like a serious bit of kit and very light
I skim read this review as it is fundamentally the same as his Fenix 5 review - because underneath the physical watch part they are the same unit with the same components, sensors and functionality.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2017/03/garmin-forerun...

Want one. Although there is a lot of appeal to the Fenix 5X - the mapping looks genuinely useful, but the rational part of my head says, "you'll have a smartphone with OS mapping with you anyway 99% of the time."

Moot point at current prices though.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Separate point:

I've just discovered that my HRM (Wahoo Tickr X) has a whole load of running dynamics capability.

1. Is there a way to retain that data when using the Tickr X paired with my watch? Currently the Wahoo app recognises those runs but doesn't display any RD data.
2. Is there a good starting point to understanding how I can use things like knowing my vertical oscillation and ground contact time to either improve my running economy or reduce my injury risks?

I'm not above using the Tickr X purely for RD data collection (every so often) by pairing it to my phone before a run and using my watches optical HRM for the actual running stuff if I'm actually going to get something back from it for that extra faff.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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Cybertronian said:
Sadly with the pound taking a thrashing, it's coming in hideously expensive at £469 on Wiggle...
Coming up at £413 for me (platinum price.) Try logging in, if you've spent as much with them as I have over the years it'll probably be the same for you.

northandy

3,496 posts

222 months

Friday 31st March 2017
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AndStilliRise said:
Do sprints help with running fast?

The reason why i ask is that over the last few weeks i have been doing quality sessions once or twice a week however have not noticed any increase in running speed? Today i did 6*0.5m with 60sec recovery. HR MAX was 160 and i found with a 60sec recovery HR was 115.

What am i doing wrong?
I joined a club in January and didn't feel I was getting much improvement. I had run a sub 20min parkrun last October but been nowhere since after my first marathon. However after regular sessions I feel a lot quicker now, I have knocked 20 seconds off my best parkrun last Saturday. I think in time you'll find improvement will come

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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tenohfive said:
Coming up at £413 for me (platinum price.) Try logging in, if you've spent as much with them as I have over the years it'll probably be the same for you.
Still shows as £469 for me, even whilst logged in.

I am with Vitality for life insurance, which nets me 40% off Garmins at full RRP. Will take a look at that angle once they start shipping from Garmin's site direct.

I also pondered over the mapping functionality of the Fenix 5X, but further reading indicates all the lower down models and the 935 have the direction arrow, which would be enough for me. I have a dreadful sense of direction, but love to explore new locations when I'm away travelling or with work - would save me having to print out or study a route in detail.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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Cybertronian said:
I also pondered over the mapping functionality of the Fenix 5X, but further reading indicates all the lower down models and the 935 have the direction arrow, which would be enough for me. I have a dreadful sense of direction, but love to explore new locations when I'm away travelling or with work - would save me having to print out or study a route in detail.
I have the basic bread crumb arrow navigation thing on my tomtom and have been uploading gpx routes from trailrunningmag and good running websites. I've been doing great routes over canals; through farms; disused railway paths - places I never even knew existed. It's really moved me away from doing the same old monotonous road routes. For me it's been a fantastic feature.


Cybertronian

1,516 posts

164 months

Saturday 1st April 2017
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RaymondVanDerDon said:
I have the basic bread crumb arrow navigation thing on my tomtom and have been uploading gpx routes from trailrunningmag and good running websites. I've been doing great routes over canals; through farms; disused railway paths - places I never even knew existed. It's really moved me away from doing the same old monotonous road routes. For me it's been a fantastic feature.
Good to hear it actually works! Would've come in useful a few years ago when I was running in Peterborough. Only intended to head out for 6 miles, but due to a quick succession of turns along a complex section, I found myself horribly lost on the return. Was thankfully rescued by a local running club who were passing by and managed to deposit me back at my hotel for a total of 10 miles!

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Athens half in Georgia for me yesterday on a course with 650ft of elevation and where the first mile was 166ft downhill so not the easiest. Course leveled off after that first mile, but was undulating until 7 miles then hills until 10 and then leveled off until a tough hill at 12.5 and downhill to the finish. Managed a respectable 1:20:11 for 3rd overall (Standard of running in the US is not amazing at the front) and the prizes were a Cow bell, $50 voucher for a running store and 25 Chick fit a burger vouchers (yes seriously). The goodie bag also had in a couple of vouchers as well as the technical T shirt.

The race started at 7:15am to avoid the heat which by 10am was 25C and the race sponsored by Chick Fil A had people dressed as cows all around the course. Gave the food prizes to a couple of local homeless people and I think most of the winners did the same.

Georgia running is Hills, heat and humidity, but for once, the heat was left out

dave0010

1,381 posts

162 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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first couple of weeks of getting my legs used to turning over again. After not running for 3 months I'm starting all over again. Starting a mix of normal runs with speed and then a long run on the weekend. I've got about 3 months until my first half marathon and then another 2 after that for my first full marathon. Lucky its in Melbourne so nice and flat

MattS5

1,911 posts

192 months

Sunday 2nd April 2017
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Last long run before London ticked off early this morning.
8 miles easy, 12 miles @ MP, 3 miles easy.

Chuffed to get that in the bag, rest of the day is going to be spent watching BTCC and refuelling smile