The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Here are the intervals from my plan to give you an idea:
- 9M of 1.5M jog and strides, then 3 x 2M (or 13 mins) fast, with 400m (3-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 9M of 1M jog, then 4 x 1M (or 6 mins) fast, with 400m (2-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 9M of 1M jog, then 7 x 800m (or 3 mins) fast, with 200m (1-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 7M of 1M jog and strides, then 12 x 400m, with 200m (1-min 30) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 6M of 1M jog and strides, then 15 x 200m, with 200m (1-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 1M jog, then 3 x 2M (or 12 mins) fast, with 400m (or 2-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 8M of 1M jog and strides, 5 x 1M (or 6 mins) fast with 200m (or 1-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 6M of 1M jog, then 7 x 800m (or 3 mins) fast, with 100m (or 1-min) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 6M of 1M jog, then 10 x 400m (or 90 secs) fast, with 200m (or 2-min secs) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
- 4M of 1M jog, then 10 x 200m (or 45 secs) fast, with 100m (or 30 secs) jog recoveries, then 1M jog
You're a bit quicker than me though 
Looks like a fair bit of yours is between 6:1 and 3:1 so I guess I'll start on something like a 90/30 seconds or 3/1 minutes and see how I go. Could do with doing some hill training too but the disadvantage of working in Holland is the biggest hill within 10 miles of me is only about 5 meters above sea level
BTW which field were you camped in at Endure? Looks like quite a few people in Field B have been ill and they think its probably due to the water supply. I filled bottles from the taps in field A and had none of our team had trouble but they're asking people to let them know if they've been ill.
Looks like a fair bit of yours is between 6:1 and 3:1 so I guess I'll start on something like a 90/30 seconds or 3/1 minutes and see how I go. Could do with doing some hill training too but the disadvantage of working in Holland is the biggest hill within 10 miles of me is only about 5 meters above sea level
BTW which field were you camped in at Endure? Looks like quite a few people in Field B have been ill and they think its probably due to the water supply. I filled bottles from the taps in field A and had none of our team had trouble but they're asking people to let them know if they've been ill.
Yes, I am a bit quicker but the ratio should be similar 
Was just to give you an idea anyway...
There is hill training on my plan as well but there isnt really much in the way of hills near me either so I tend do skip them and do an undulating long run instead.
We were in field B. The water supply was from a long blue hose with a tap on the end. It looked like something you would connect to one of the toilets, etc rather than a stand pipe as such and was not supported off the ground.
We filled all our bottles of water from it but if it was used it was boiled first for hot drink or food. I did use the water in the toilets to brush my teeth and no ill effects.
The toilets themselves did 'fill up' as one person put it but the guys emptying them did seem to be doing their best to keen them going. Their truck was small though so they could only only empty half the row of toilets in one go before driving off site to empty it and come back by which time the clean ones were blocked again.
Tbh the toilets, whilst grim, were pretty much par for the course given that most people were shovelling in gels and energy bars for 24h and you can only eat so many of those before they give you the s
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Was just to give you an idea anyway...There is hill training on my plan as well but there isnt really much in the way of hills near me either so I tend do skip them and do an undulating long run instead.
We were in field B. The water supply was from a long blue hose with a tap on the end. It looked like something you would connect to one of the toilets, etc rather than a stand pipe as such and was not supported off the ground.
We filled all our bottles of water from it but if it was used it was boiled first for hot drink or food. I did use the water in the toilets to brush my teeth and no ill effects.
The toilets themselves did 'fill up' as one person put it but the guys emptying them did seem to be doing their best to keen them going. Their truck was small though so they could only only empty half the row of toilets in one go before driving off site to empty it and come back by which time the clean ones were blocked again.
Tbh the toilets, whilst grim, were pretty much par for the course given that most people were shovelling in gels and energy bars for 24h and you can only eat so many of those before they give you the s
ts RizzoTheRat said:
You're a bit quicker than me though
Looks like a fair bit of yours is between 6:1 and 3:1 so I guess I'll start on something like a 90/30 seconds or 3/1 minutes and see how I go. Could do with doing some hill training too but the disadvantage of working in Holland is the biggest hill within 10 miles of me is only about 5 meters above sea level
I have heard of people using multi-story car parks and even stairs as a substitute for hills. I'm a massive hill reps fan, and read an article suggesting that it's great for lactate threshold work as it up's the intensity but in a less impactive way than the equivalent effort on the flat.Looks like a fair bit of yours is between 6:1 and 3:1 so I guess I'll start on something like a 90/30 seconds or 3/1 minutes and see how I go. Could do with doing some hill training too but the disadvantage of working in Holland is the biggest hill within 10 miles of me is only about 5 meters above sea level
- it's going to be great 
- that's awesome 
- well done!!SHutchinson said:
Ran the Rat Race 'The Wall' on Saturday. 69 miles of some pretty reasonable scenery. Finished in 17 hours 56 minutes. Pretty happy with that but pretty tired right now.
Well done, I know two people who did it, I think one was about 17 hours the other just over 18.... Neither was having much fun negotiating staircases on Sunday I gather.Epic achievement!
Took a friend for his second half marathon run this morning and it turned into a bit of a drama. We'd run his first two weeks ago at c.5:40/Km pace and he was comfortable but understandably tired in the legs. Today the route was much hillier and he pushed it on a bit in the middle (c.5:25/Km according to my Garmin) before the wheels started coming off badly around the 16km mark. We ended up walking the last 3km and he was clearly getting worse (but did keep trying to run!). He could barely shuffle in a straight line by the end and I had to hold him up across the car park and was panting. At this point I was hopeful a sit down with a drink would see him alright in ten minutes time.
Ten minutes later and on the verge of calling him an ambulance he started to regain some composure and colour. With hindsight I wish I had called an ambulance and would if the situation cropped up again. Even if they stayed for 15 minutes before leaving or bked me for wasting their time. It has taken a good few hours for him to feel anything like himself again. The mental fog has now mostly lifted (he was convinced work would sack him for it and his wife would be really worried) and he's going to take himself to the doctors later. He wanted to drive home but thankfully I didn't have to confiscate his keys to keep him here.
Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? Conditions were perfect (wasn't hot and/or sunny), the pace wasn't too high for him (for this distance) and he felt fine before and for two thirds of the run. I've only ever seen people like this at races where they have pushed themselves into a very dark place and/or it has been hot.
Ten minutes later and on the verge of calling him an ambulance he started to regain some composure and colour. With hindsight I wish I had called an ambulance and would if the situation cropped up again. Even if they stayed for 15 minutes before leaving or b
ked me for wasting their time. It has taken a good few hours for him to feel anything like himself again. The mental fog has now mostly lifted (he was convinced work would sack him for it and his wife would be really worried) and he's going to take himself to the doctors later. He wanted to drive home but thankfully I didn't have to confiscate his keys to keep him here.Has anyone ever experienced anything like this? Conditions were perfect (wasn't hot and/or sunny), the pace wasn't too high for him (for this distance) and he felt fine before and for two thirds of the run. I've only ever seen people like this at races where they have pushed themselves into a very dark place and/or it has been hot.
m444ttb said:
With hindsight I wish I had called an ambulance and would if the situation cropped up again. Even if they stayed for 15 minutes before leaving or bked me for wasting their time.
What I've heard in the past from paramedics is they'd rather be called out and not needed in a situation like that than turn up too late!ked me for wasting their time. I guess it could have just been dehydration but a friend of mine who used to be a quick runner started getting trouble (feeling knackered and faint mainly) on distances and speeds that should be inside his comfort zone and it turned out he had a constricted artery and now has a stent, so it's well worth him getting properly checked out.
AndStilliRise said:
Sounds like he didn't drink enough water the day before.
I'm not convinced. He needed a piss during the run and claims it was pretty clear. It was when he started drinking after that the throwing up started.He's going to the doctors for a few different tests now. Hopefully it doesn't find anything and it was just a one off mystery.
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