The Golf Thread - 2016!
Discussion
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Its the playmore.golf scheme. £325 for 100 points. My issue is that due to the birth of another baby, yet another year goes past with not much golf played.
So I have paid in full, in advance, for my 100 points, but any I haven't used after 12 months go in the bin.
So over half my money this year has been wasted.
I'm not really complaining, as I knew the rules when I signed up, and I have got what was promised. But however flexible it is, it isn't flexible enough for my needs, so they wont be taking any wages from me next year.
Sadly, I don't have a better local alternative, so pay-as-I-play it will be. Sad.
So you've paid £325 but over half of your points are going unused? So I have paid in full, in advance, for my 100 points, but any I haven't used after 12 months go in the bin.
So over half my money this year has been wasted.
I'm not really complaining, as I knew the rules when I signed up, and I have got what was promised. But however flexible it is, it isn't flexible enough for my needs, so they wont be taking any wages from me next year.
Sadly, I don't have a better local alternative, so pay-as-I-play it will be. Sad.
Doesn't sound like you've played much at all, have you managed once a month?
The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
dazwalsh said:
Im into my second year of golf and really starting to enjoy it now.
At what point on the handicap scale did everyone invest in new clubs?
I only paid 50 quid for my full set of TM R7's but they are starting to show their age now.
Also whats the lowest degree a driver goes to? Thanks to my self taught swing and the ball being dead central between my feet I get ridiculous height off the tee, and probably lose 30 yards due to it, plus the winds in the upper atmosphere play havoc with my scorecard.
With respect, you don't need a steeper driver, you need to play the driver forward in your stance. The game is hard enough without ignoring some well-founded important basics.At what point on the handicap scale did everyone invest in new clubs?
I only paid 50 quid for my full set of TM R7's but they are starting to show their age now.
Also whats the lowest degree a driver goes to? Thanks to my self taught swing and the ball being dead central between my feet I get ridiculous height off the tee, and probably lose 30 yards due to it, plus the winds in the upper atmosphere play havoc with my scorecard.
(And unless you are playing to, say, 12, you don't need a driver at all, IMO. But that's a familiar argument I provoke in here every few months!
)HaplessBoyLard said:
I wouldn't be thinking about a low lofted driver tbh. You're more than likely hitting down with your driver if the ball is in the middle of your stance, meaning you're catching it high on the face (or off the crown) causing it to launch high and not travel very far.
Most people play driver with the ball somewhere around the inside of the lead foot, to try and encourage an upward, or more level strike. Try that. You might find you get the ball closer to the middle of the club face, with a lower more forward flight on the ball.
Its becauase of my self taught swing really, I dont interlock fingers its a bit wristy and I sort of line it all up at the last second before hitting ball so I effectively come through the ball in much the same position as I present the ball if that makes sense. I have coloured in the face of the club and hit a tonne of balls at the range and more often than not they are bang centre height wise. I use a standard white castle tee if that makes ant difference.Most people play driver with the ball somewhere around the inside of the lead foot, to try and encourage an upward, or more level strike. Try that. You might find you get the ball closer to the middle of the club face, with a lower more forward flight on the ball.
At this point I would have to go back to square one to fix my swing, and as long as the scorecards improve I will stick with it.
Looked at driver its 11 degrees.
dazwalsh said:
HaplessBoyLard said:
I wouldn't be thinking about a low lofted driver tbh. You're more than likely hitting down with your driver if the ball is in the middle of your stance, meaning you're catching it high on the face (or off the crown) causing it to launch high and not travel very far.
Most people play driver with the ball somewhere around the inside of the lead foot, to try and encourage an upward, or more level strike. Try that. You might find you get the ball closer to the middle of the club face, with a lower more forward flight on the ball.
Its becauase of my self taught swing really, I dont interlock fingers its a bit wristy and I sort of line it all up at the last second before hitting ball so I effectively come through the ball in much the same position as I present the ball if that makes sense. I have coloured in the face of the club and hit a tonne of balls at the range and more often than not they are bang centre height wise. I use a standard white castle tee if that makes ant difference.Most people play driver with the ball somewhere around the inside of the lead foot, to try and encourage an upward, or more level strike. Try that. You might find you get the ball closer to the middle of the club face, with a lower more forward flight on the ball.
At this point I would have to go back to square one to fix my swing, and as long as the scorecards improve I will stick with it.
Looked at driver its 11 degrees.
The sooner you can establish good basics, the easier the game will be, and the more you will enjoy it. Ingrained bad habits will put a ceiling on your potential.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Tuesday 25th October 23:29
SpeckledJim said:
With respect, you don't need a steeper driver, you need to play the driver forward in your stance. The game is hard enough without ignoring some well-founded important basics.
(And unless you are playing to, say, 12, you don't need a driver at all, IMO. But that's a familiar argument I provoke in here every few months!)
I cant seem to grasp having the ball further towards my left foot im too stuck in my admitedly wrong swing founded on my own rather than the well founded principles lol. I should take a video of it, it looks wrong but I hit fairly straight with it and still reach 200 yards plus its just I can do that off the fairway with the 5 wood so the driver just hits it further up in the air with no real advantage in distance.(And unless you are playing to, say, 12, you don't need a driver at all, IMO. But that's a familiar argument I provoke in here every few months!
)dazwalsh said:
SpeckledJim said:
With respect, you don't need a steeper driver, you need to play the driver forward in your stance. The game is hard enough without ignoring some well-founded important basics.
(And unless you are playing to, say, 12, you don't need a driver at all, IMO. But that's a familiar argument I provoke in here every few months!)
I cant seem to grasp having the ball further towards my left foot im too stuck in my admitedly wrong swing founded on my own rather than the well founded principles lol. I should take a video of it, it looks wrong but I hit fairly straight with it and still reach 200 yards plus its just I can do that off the fairway with the 5 wood so the driver just hits it further up in the air with no real advantage in distance.(And unless you are playing to, say, 12, you don't need a driver at all, IMO. But that's a familiar argument I provoke in here every few months!
)Back to basics!
SpeckledJim said:
Maybe 8 rounds this year.
The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
I'd keep up with the membership.The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Maybe 8 rounds this year.
The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
I'd keep up with the membership.The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
I only play 4-5 times a year due to injury, and I totally get what you mean about the looking forward to it!
DuncanM said:
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Maybe 8 rounds this year.
The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
I'd keep up with the membership.The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
I only play 4-5 times a year due to injury, and I totally get what you mean about the looking forward to it!
Rosscow said:
DuncanM said:
Rosscow said:
SpeckledJim said:
Maybe 8 rounds this year.
The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
I'd keep up with the membership.The really frustrating part is that despite zero practise, I can play as well or better now than ever. Because I look forward to it so much, and spend time idly theorising so much about the game when I cannot find the time to play, I think my on-course decision-making is more than making up for the weaknesses in my touch through lack of practise.
If I could combine this with a grooved swing and well-practised touch and putting, I could get somewhere.
Going pay-as-I-play is going to reduce my opportunities still further, as I wont feel any pressure to get the use out of the membership that I have paid for.
AAAAAARRRRRRGHH.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
I only play 4-5 times a year due to injury, and I totally get what you mean about the looking forward to it!
Rosscow said:
I'd keep up with the membership.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
I can't agree. I think if I'm committing all the money up front then my golf should be cheaper per-round than the chap who makes no such commitment and pays-and-plays only as much as he wants.You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
Access to 'my' course on teeofftimes.co.uk is £15-25 to Joe Public.
At £40 a round for 'flexibility', I'm being heavily punished for my loyalty and commitment. And it's a lot less flexible than being able to play wherever I want.
Now you've done the maths for me I've got the grumps.
SpeckledJim said:
Rosscow said:
I'd keep up with the membership.
You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
I can't agree. I think if I'm committing all the money up front then my golf should be cheaper per-round than the chap who makes no such commitment and pays-and-plays only as much as he wants.You've only spent what is equal to £40 a round - hardly expensive golf. If you like the course then stick with it. You never know, you might get out a few times more next year.
Access to 'my' course on teeofftimes.co.uk is £15-25 to Joe Public.
At £40 a round for 'flexibility', I'm being heavily punished for my loyalty and commitment. And it's a lot less flexible than being able to play wherever I want.
Now you've done the maths for me I've got the grumps.
Where do you play?
Rosscow said:
Who do you normally play with? You play in comps, don't you? Wouldn't you miss those?
Where do you play?
At the moment I'm down to just three potential golf buddies, all of whom like me work full-time and have young families, so can't easily wangle the time.Where do you play?
I used to play in competitions, and play in club teams, but I just can't find the time. I miss it a lot. You're right, the membership entitles me to a proper handicap, but I haven't got one, as I don't play any golf that needs one. I should add that being stuck in the middle of a train of double-buggied fourballs playing 5-hour rounds and looking for at least one ball on every hole brings me out in hives.
Instead what I generally do at present is take the very first tee time of the day on Saturday or Sunday and rocket round solo, home by 1030h, so it doesn't prejudice whatever family stuff is on the cards.
I play at Carden Park, which is very smart, two great courses, high-spec, well-tended, and a totally soul-less Cyberdyne Robo-Corp. I'm not really missing out on much club-house-life, because there isn't any, and I don't have the time even if there was.
Grumpy.
Edited by SpeckledJim on Wednesday 26th October 10:35
dazwalsh said:
I cant seem to grasp having the ball further towards my left foot im too stuck in my admitedly wrong swing founded on my own rather than the well founded principles lol. I should take a video of it, it looks wrong but I hit fairly straight with it and still reach 200 yards plus its just I can do that off the fairway with the 5 wood so the driver just hits it further up in the air with no real advantage in distance.
Well, if you're not hitting it high on the club face, something else is going on to lose that distance, and its not the loft on your driver. Could possibly be the extra spin you'll be creating by hitting (presumably) down on the ball. Unless i missed it, you didn't say what your handicap is, but id guess you're high teens at best. At that level, an 11 degree driver is usually about right. Most people need more loft, not less!
Honestly, the answer is finding a good pro and having a few lessons. Until you've done that, you might as well leave the driver at home and sick to the 5 wood if that's going just as far.
SpeckledJim said:
At the moment I'm down to just three potential golf buddies, all of whom like me work full-time and have young families, so can't easily wangle the time.
I used to play in competitions, and play in club teams, but I just can't find the time. I miss it a lot. You're right, the membership entitles me to a proper handicap, but I haven't got one, as I don't play any golf that needs one. I should add that being stuck in the middle of a train of double-buggied fourballs playing 5-hour rounds and looking for at least one ball on every hole brings me out in hives.
Instead what I generally do at present is take the very first tee time of the day on Saturday or Sunday and rocket round solo, home by 1030h, so it doesn't prejudice whatever family stuff is on the cards.
I play at Carden Park, which is very smart, two great courses, high-spec, well-tended, and a totally soul-less Cyberdyne Robo-Corp. I'm not really missing out on much club-house-life, because there isn't any, and I don't have the time even if there was.
Grumpy.
I've a young family as well, but I'm also done and dusted by 11am.I used to play in competitions, and play in club teams, but I just can't find the time. I miss it a lot. You're right, the membership entitles me to a proper handicap, but I haven't got one, as I don't play any golf that needs one. I should add that being stuck in the middle of a train of double-buggied fourballs playing 5-hour rounds and looking for at least one ball on every hole brings me out in hives.
Instead what I generally do at present is take the very first tee time of the day on Saturday or Sunday and rocket round solo, home by 1030h, so it doesn't prejudice whatever family stuff is on the cards.
I play at Carden Park, which is very smart, two great courses, high-spec, well-tended, and a totally soul-less Cyberdyne Robo-Corp. I'm not really missing out on much club-house-life, because there isn't any, and I don't have the time even if there was.
Grumpy.
Surely you can play twice a month if you can be finished by 10.30am on a Saturday??
Bloody hell, £325 for membership at Carden Park? Our place is £650 per year, and it's only a 9 Hole course with two tee boxes on each hole.
However I have no kids, and an understanding OH who is happy watching telly whilst I'm out, so in summer I get out at least 3 times a week.
Must admit next season I'm looking at playing outside of the club a bit more - I'm thinking about entering a few local Mens Opens to get a flavour of a few more courses and competition - anyone know of any decent ones in the Midlands for people off 10 or less?
However I have no kids, and an understanding OH who is happy watching telly whilst I'm out, so in summer I get out at least 3 times a week.
Must admit next season I'm looking at playing outside of the club a bit more - I'm thinking about entering a few local Mens Opens to get a flavour of a few more courses and competition - anyone know of any decent ones in the Midlands for people off 10 or less?
bodhi said:
Bloody hell, £325 for membership at Carden Park? Our place is £650 per year, and it's only a 9 Hole course with two tee boxes on each hole.
However I have no kids, and an understanding OH who is happy watching telly whilst I'm out, so in summer I get out at least 3 times a week.
Must admit next season I'm looking at playing outside of the club a bit more - I'm thinking about entering a few local Mens Opens to get a flavour of a few more courses and competition - anyone know of any decent ones in the Midlands for people off 10 or less?
It's a very good deal for the people who fit the scheme. I used to, I just don't at the moment.However I have no kids, and an understanding OH who is happy watching telly whilst I'm out, so in summer I get out at least 3 times a week.
Must admit next season I'm looking at playing outside of the club a bit more - I'm thinking about entering a few local Mens Opens to get a flavour of a few more courses and competition - anyone know of any decent ones in the Midlands for people off 10 or less?
But if you're playing a lot, then you'll burn through your 100 points in a few months. Maybe less.
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